53 man roster.who,s in?and who is out?

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    53 man roster.who,s in?and who is out?

    the pats have something like 93 players in camp right now,and probably a few more before its said,and done.so we are talking like 50+ players cut,or released by the start of the season.its a rough sketch now,but who are the sure locks,and`who are the ones getting there release papers?could some players that have been with the team for a few years get there walking papers?it looks as BB isnt messing around this season with all these guys in camp.he definitely wants the best players on the team.
     
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    injuries will have a huge impact on the team. it's hard to tell now. go ahead and make your 53 man roster though.
     
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    I guess the question should have been who are the sure locks.there will be a lot of players getting cut.i guess it is to soon to figure out the whole 53 man roster.ill work on part of it,but the rest will be a wait,and see.
     
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    I guess the question should have been who are the sure locks.there will be a lot of players getting cut.i guess it is to soon to figure out the whole 53 man roster.ill work on part of it,but the rest will be a wait,and see.
    Posted by mosseffect43


    Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, Randy Moss, Adalius Thomas, Matt Light, Dan Koppen, Kevin Faulk, Wes Welker, Ty Warren, Stephen Neal, Vince Wilfork, Jerod Mayo, Shawn Springs, Tedy Bruschi, James Sanders, Nick Kaczur, Fred Taylor, Leigh Bodden, Logan Mankins, Chris Baker, Laurence Maroney, Mike Wright, Joey Galloway, Brandon Meriweather, Pierre Woods, Ben Watson, Sammy Morris, Stephen Gostkowski, Terrence Wheatley, Shawn Crable, Kevin O’Connell, Chris Hanson, Jonathan Wilhite, Gary Guyton, Vince Redd, Patrick Chung, Sebastian Vollmer, Ron Brace, Darius Butler, Rich Ohrnberger, Greg Lewis

     
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    injuries will have a huge impact on the team. it's hard to tell now. go ahead and make your 53 man roster though.
    Posted by KyleCleric2


    Not again!  Can we please have one season without half the starters being injured?  I know we got one in 2007, but one more, please?
     
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    Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, Randy Moss, Adalius Thomas, Matt Light, Dan Koppen, Kevin Faulk, Wes Welker, Ty Warren, Stephen Neal, Vince Wilfork, Jerod Mayo, Shawn Springs, Tedy Bruschi, James Sanders, Nick Kaczur, Fred Taylor, Leigh Bodden, Logan Mankins, Chris Baker, Laurence Maroney, Mike Wright, Joey Galloway, Brandon Meriweather, Pierre Woods, Ben Watson, Sammy Morris, Stephen Gostkowski, Terrence Wheatley, Shawn Crable, Kevin O’Connell, Chris Hanson, Jonathan Wilhite, Gary Guyton, Vince Redd, Patrick Chung, Sebastian Vollmer, Ron Brace, Darius Butler, Rich Ohrnberger, Greg Lewis
    Posted by KyleCleric2
    i agree with all of yours,and would add appleby,mcgowen,tank,i could see stephen neil get cut,but thats a wait,and see.jarvis green should be a lock,but he also could be a wait,and see.
     
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    QB-Brady, O'Connell. (2)

    RB Taylor, Maroney, Faulk, BJGE (4)

    FB Sammy Morrie, Alex Smith(TE/FB/HB) (2)

    TE Watson, Baker, Thomas (3)

    WR Moss, Wleker, Galloway, Lewis, (4) PLUS

    OL Light, Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Kacur, Vollmer, LeVoir, Hochstein, Orhnberger (9)

    DL Seymour, Brace, Wilfork, Warren, Wright, Myron Pryor, Daryl rRichards (7)

    OLB Thomas, Woods, Crable, Red, TBC (5)

    ILB Bruschi, Mayo, Guyton, Alexander (4)

    Dime SS Rover Chung (in the Box), McGowan (2)

    FS Merriwheather (slot DB), Sanders (deap Middle) (2)

    CB Springs, Bodden, Wilhite, Wheatley, Butler  (5)

    ST Aiken WR/ST Elderman WR/ST/QB/RT Specialist (2)

    PNT Hanson (1)

    PLK Gostkowski (1)

    Long Snapper: Jake Ingram (1)

    I think that Green may be a cap casualty or a trade for later picks seeing how Wright got more reps than him towards the end of the year. i think the move save the Pats 3 mil on the cap which mean they could sign taylor and taylor could be there stand up OLB in the 3-4 and there hands down DE in the 4-3...

    I think this may be the end of the road for road for players like Vetrone, Spann and Mclinton are a long shot

    LeVoir filled in nicely for Light last year so i think he is the Right Tackle of the future while Vollmer is the Left Tackle of the future.

    Slater, Williams and a couple of veterans that cost too much will get clipped or traded to give the younger guys more reps that is just the nature of the beast

    seeig how Greens value is high and he is a UFA i would trade him to the highest bidder plus i have a feeling there is no reason to go into the game with three QB if Elderman can step in and play wildcat 5 snaps a game along with playing punter return, kick off return and WR

    Aiken maybe expendable if the need ILB cicucen they signed from the vikes is going to be a valueable replacement for izzo which means they will have Wheatly and Butler as there gunners on punt coverage and that is a lot of speed
     
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    I think Eric Kettani will make the team as a FB, he is great for those goal line rushes.  
     
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    if you feel Kettani provide a benefit to this team than that means the patriots will have to cut loose Thomas becuase Baker and Alex Smith are a lock at TE/HB... i would not be surprised if the patriots told Watson to come in lighter so whe they spread five wide he can play the slot opposite to welker... that would be great

    Imaging this play

    Gallaway and Moss split out welk lines up on the far hash and Watson in the back field

    the patriots run an OffSett line with light, mankins, koppen, neal, kacur and vollmer

    if watson motions to welkers side and welker runs a deep crossing pattern it would be 10 yards all day all most undeffendable...

    teams would have to double Moss over the top meaning he would take the safety and the DB deep middle leaving the middle of the field wide open, galloway would be one, on one which is a nightmare for any corner and the SS would have to roll up and cover Watson in motion... now you have two ILBs roving deep middle which means brady throw over the top of them and Welker scores six all day

    this offense is going to be more upprdictable than ever witht he addition of Galloway, Taylor, Lewis and Baker
     
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    i agree with all of yours,and would add appleby,mcgowen,tank,i could see stephen neil get cut,but thats a wait,and see.jarvis green should be a lock,but he also could be a wait,and see.
    Posted by mosseffect43


    i would consider Green a virtual lock. but if they could move him for a fourth or fifth round pick, i believe they'd do it. there's enough depth, talent, and youth with this group on the defense line that moving his 1 year, $2.5M base salary so that Le Kevin Smith and Myron Pryor can be on this team is worth it.
     
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    Neal is not going to get cut. He's the team's best offensive lineman when healthy and even if he misses half the season, if he's playing at the end then he's worth having around.

    Here's a link from Reiss's blog:
    http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-8-31/Point-of-attack--Patriots-run-blocking.html
     
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    (3) QB: Tom Brady, Kevin O’Connell, Matt Gutierrez
    (4) RB: Laurence Maroney, Sammy Morris, Fred Taylor, Kevin Faulk
    (6) WR: Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Joey Galloway, Greg Lewis, Julian Edelman, Matt Slater
    (3) TE: Ben Watson, Chris Baker, Alex Smith
    (5) T: Matt Light, Nick Kaczur, Mark Levoir, Ryan O’Callaghan, Sebastian Vollmer
    (5) G/C: Logan Mankins, Dan Koppen, Stephen Neal, Russ Hochstein, Rich Ohrnberger
    (4) DE: Ty Warren, Richard Seymour, Jarvis Green, Mike Wright
    (3) NT: Vince Wilfork, Ron Brace, Myron Pryor
    (5) OLB: Adalius Thomas, Jason Taylor, Shawn Crable, Vince Redd, Pierre Woods
    (3) ILB: Tedy Bruschi, Jerod Mayo, Gary Guyton
    (6) CB: Shawn Springs, Leigh Bodden, Darius Butler, Terrence Wheatley, Jonathan Wilhite, Mike Richardson

    (3) S: James Sanders, Brandon Meriweather, Patrick Chung

    (1) K: Stephen Gostkowski
    (1) P: Chris Hanson
    (1) LS: Jake Ingram

    IR: Tyrone McKenzie, PUP: Brandon Tate

     
     
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    No way Green gets cut.  He is our best pass rushing defensive lineman.  Neal stays too.  He and Mankins give us the best guard combo in the league.

    Then again, I would never have believed they would trade Hobbs or Vrabel ...
     
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    No way Green gets cut.  He is our best pass rushing defensive lineman.  Neal stays too.  He and Mankins give us the best guard combo in the league. Then again, I would never have believed they would trade Hobbs or Vrabel ...
    Posted by themightypatriots


    There were depth reasons to replace Hobbs and Vrabel. Green and Kaczur have good young depth behind them that could replace their roles. There isn't much drop off between Green and Wright, and Kaczur and O'Callaghan/Levoir/Vollmer. Neal has vets behind him so Johnson, Yates, and Hochstein are more expendable than him.
     
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    There isn't much drop off between Green and Wright

    I don't know about that.  Green has been our best pass rushing D-Lineman for years.  Wright is pretty good rushing the passer too, but I don't think he's up to Green's level.  Don't have any stats or anything to back this up, just my general recollection from the games (e.g. Green clinching the 2007 game against the Colts with a Pouting Peyton forced fumble, as opposed to Wright a few games later charging recklessly at Roethlisberger, then just standing there looking confused as Big Ben side steps him, then waiting a few moments before deciding to continue the chase, only to watch Big Ben burn Sanders on a TD to that big fullback guy of theirs that everyone always makes fun of for some girlfriend incident ...)  Just highlights, but Green has been good for years. 
     
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    the pats have almost 100 players in training camp,and they are not there to play tidily winks.BB is serious on haveing the best players on hand.its very possible the likes of green,and neil getting traded,or released.many,many younger guys that are up,and comeing.there contracts could end up cheap,and long.to where greens,and neils are on there final year.
     
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    i like appleby chances of making the team especially over alexander, its time he goes alexander is nothing special to keep around special teamer at best but appleby could step in and do the same .  And get in on some plays especially because he has previous 3 4 knowledge from virginia
     
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    (3) QB: Tom Brady, Kevin O’Connell, Matt Gutierrez
    (4) RB: Laurence Maroney, Sammy Morris, Fred Taylor, Kevin Faulk

    (5) WR: Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Joey Galloway, Greg Lewis, Julian Edelman 

    (3) TE: Ben Watson, Chris Baker, Alex Smith

    (5) T: Matt Light, Nick Kaczur, Mark Levoir, Ryan O’Callaghan, Sebastian Vollmer
    (5) G/C: Logan Mankins, Dan Koppen, Stephen Neal, Russ Hochstein, Rich Ohrnberger
    (4) DE: Ty Warren, Richard Seymour, Jarvis Green, Mike Wright
    (3) NT: Vince Wilfork, Ron Brace, Myron Pryor
    (5) OLB: Adalius Thomas, Jason Taylor, Shawn Crable, Vince Redd, Pierre Woods
    (4) ILB: Tedy Bruschi, Jerod Mayo, Gary Guyton, Antonio Appelby 
    (5) CB: Shawn Springs, Leigh Bodden, Darius Butler, Terrence Wheatley, Jonathan Wilhite, 

    (4) S: James Sanders, Brandon Meriweather, Patrick Chung, Brandon McGowan

    (1) K: Stephen Gostkowski 
    (1) P: Chris Hanson
    (1) LS: Jake Ingram

     
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    Morris and Taylor are redundant.  BJGE stays.  So do David Thomas and Ventrone.  Forget about Jason Taylor.  LeKevin Smith will stay.  We might keep an extra DE instread of Crable, Woods, Redd and TBC.  I would guess Kenny Smith.
     

    (3) QB: Tom Brady, Kevin O’Connell, Matt Gutierrez
    (4) RB: Laurence Maroney, Fred Taylor, Kevin Faulk, BenJarvus Green Ellis
    (5) WR: Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Greg Lewis, Joey Galloway, Ray Ventrone
    (3) TE: Ben Watson, David Thomas, Chris Baker

    (5) T: Matt Light, Nick Kaczur, Ryan O’Callaghan, Sebastian Vollmer, Mark Levoir
    (5) G/C: Logan Mankins, Dan Koppen, Stephen Neal, Russ Hochstein, Rich Ohrnberger

    (4) DE: Ty Warren, Richard Seymour, Jarvis Green, Le Kevin Smith,
    (3) NT: Vince Wilfork, Ron Brace, Mike Wright, 
    (5) OLB: Adalius Thomas, Shawn Crable, Vince Redd, Tully Banta Cain, Pierre Woods
    (4) ILB: Tedy Bruschi, Jerod Mayo, Gary Guyton, Eric Alexander
    (5) CB: Shawn Springs, Leigh Bodden, Darius Butler, Terrence Wheatley, Jonathan Wilhite, 

    (4) S: James Sanders, Brandon Meriweather, Patrick Chung, Brandon McGowan


    (1) K: Stephen Gostkowski 
    (1) P: Chris Hanson
    (1) LS: Jake Ingram

     
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    Eric Alexander better stay off the team.  He is absolutely useless, Appelby, having played some 3-4 in college, can contribute at ILB as well.  I agree Morris maybe cut, however, the Pats would be wise to hold on to him since the chance of a Maroney injury is high.  I do hope the Pats get Jason Taylor, with him, we have solid OLB's, without him it's far too risky
     
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    Of course Maroney will be injured.  They'll all be injured!  Morris and Taylor will both miss half the season at least.  Faulk has been pretty durable but he's getting up there.  The only one without a history of injuries is Law Firm, and he only played what, 3 games last season?

    I would trust Alexander over Appleby.  Alexander's been in the system 4 years. 
     
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    injuries are part of the game.it cant be avoided,but its nice to have a run by committee with five solid backs.alexander is a good special teamer.and appleby is yet to be known,but who knows.
     
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    "Injuries are part of the game."

    So is losing because you filled a position with injury prone players.
     
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    QB - Brady, O'Connell, Gutierrez (3)
    RB - Morris, Taylor, Maroney, Faulk, Green-Ellis (5)
    WR - Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Aiken, Ortiz (6)
    TE - Watson, Baker, Smith, Thomas (4)
    OL - Light, Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Kaczur, Hochstein, Vollmer, LeVoir, Orhnberger (9)
    DL - Seymour, Wilfork, Warren, Green, Brace, Wright, Smith (7)
    LB - Thomas, Woods, Mayo, Bruschi, Guyton, Crable, Williams (7)
    CB - Springs, Bodden, Wheatley, Wilhite, Butler (5)
    S - Sanders, Meriweather, McGowan, Chung (4)
    K - Gostkowski (1)
    P - Hanson (1)
    LS - Hodel (1)


     
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    "Injuries are part of the game. " So is losing because you filled a position with injury prone players.
    Posted by themightypatriots
    thats why depth is a great thing.to plug in a solid player when one falls.injuries cant be avoided.no matter what the players history is.its gonna happen.i guess we might as well say brady is finished because he is in the injury club.NOT!
     
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