Re: A look at Rookies Production !!!
posted at 10/29/2012 1:34 PM EDT
In response to Neal Page's comment:
How is trading back "foolish" when the salary cap is the same level as 2009 and your decision is to up your odds in hitting on picks vs spending wildly in FA on a bloated market due to lack of quality in the market? See Mario Williams as an example in case you're too dumb to figure it out.
You, Gasper, Mazz and Felger are morons on this topic. MORONS.
You do realize that BB traded back into the 2010, 2011 and 2012 drafts too ADD the picks to get the Jones and Hightiowers, to be able to move, etc, right?
Are you really this stupid, Hurlie?
Really? You've cornered the market on stupidity. BB traded back in 2009 to land more picks and leverage for the far superior 2010. We don't get Gronk AND Hernandez without this move. Clay Matthews, who can't stop the run and plays on bad D be damned. Compare Chandler Jones to Matthews. I'll take Jones, Gronk and Hernandez, amongst a myriad of other players BB has added simply because he gave himself incredible leverage during this rebuilding on the fly.
We don't get Gronk and Hernandez for example if BB hadn't traded back out of 2009. He knew 2010's was the deepest pool of talent since 1983. Christ, EVERYONE knew but the Jets, a team that only had a 1st and 3rd rder and wasted their 1st rder on a nickel back who trash talks and can't make a play unless by accident. How is this that difficult to grasp?
BB then had the base rebuild through youth (as well as anyone in 2-3 drafts finishing at 12+ wins every year), and pounced this year in the 1st rd in 2012. It was masterful. All of it. You calling it "foolish" shows how much you don't understand what he did.
Do you think it's a strength of an adult to show ignorance and stupidity, Hurlie? You do it so well!
My god. Just take a class at Bunker Hill Community College. Just take anything at this point! I don't care if it's Music Appreciation.
NO team has had more picks in the last 3-4 drafts and no team reallly has a yield like this either. Get it?
How many annual 12+ win teams have young talent like this on both sides of the ball? ZERO other than NE. You're the same moron telling us how great Colbert has been in Pitt and how great Ozzie Newsome has been in Baltimore, but is that really the case? How's Mike Wallace doing so far this year?
Listen, I understand this is your baby after reading Patriot's management secrets vol1 and 2, but you fail to realize all this winning we do is from Brady and Belichick the coach...not guys like Butler, Chung, Brace, Dowling, McCourty, Cunningham, Price, Wheatly, Love, Deadrick, Arrington. And I'm probably forgeting more, but my point is these guys I just listed are average (at best) players. We continue to win DESPITE that fact because we have a QB that covers up THOSE mistakes.
We have had more draft picks than any team in the NFL over the last five years and we ended up with two tight ends and a right tackle that is a slipped disk away from being done. Love the tight ends and Vollmer - big props - but in my opinion with all the picks we had...it's not enough. I bet you can go over every single team in this league over the last five years and you'll find that each one of them drafted three good players in that span. Every one of them. So I think we did average in that catergory. Not "the best GM ever!!" type of catergory. Sorry.
As for free agency, there cannot be one single team that has blown that portion of team building more than us over the last five years. I can think of a guard we signed last year and Lloyd as being hits - the rest? My God, it's almost incredible to list all these names...Shawn Springs, Leigh Bodden, Fred Taylor, Gaffney, Stallworth, Gallery, Addai, Gonzalez, Holt, Galloway, Ocho, Ellis, Haynesworth, Banta Cain, Burgess, John Lynch (really, really,), 20 different tightends and 20 different fullbacks. This has killed us, if you don't see or believe that then you don't understand just how small the window we had with Brady. Signing guys like this is NOT team building, it's team destroying. It's making your team a QB and not much else. Sorry.
And tell me - what is the philosophy and strategy behind leaving yourself 7 million under the cap two years in a row? How does that help? Earlier you said it was to sign free agents as the season went along (fill in for injuries and such). That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard...these guys cost pennies...you cut a player anyway when you sign some stiff sitting at home on the couch. How does not spending 14 million over the last two years help this team beat the Giants in the Super Bowl?? It doesn't dumbo.