Adalius Thomas + one of the 2nd for a first round pick?

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    Adalius Thomas + one of the 2nd for a first round pick?

    Don't want the J-E-T-S to get him, don't want to release him, the rumor mill has been quite... Anyone here anything about possible Adalius Thomas trade possibilities? The only rumor I heard, and it is an old one, was if there was a trade it would probable br a daft day trade
     
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    it's hard to trade him because of his contract He's being paid to much to perform like he has. What team wants to pay that much and the pick to grab him when eveyone believes the Pats most likely will dump him anyways. You might find a desperate team like say Tampa who's willing to take a chance with a late round (6th or 7th) since if he hits to open market he's most likely heading to the Jets but that's the best you might get.  
     
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    Trade AD to Tampa for Terrence Nunn
     
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    People need to realize that Thomas has no trade value.  Every other team in the league know the Pats are going to cut him.  So in this case, he is not going to on his own get them into the first round paired with a 2nd round pick.
     
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    Anarchy - I think most people on this board realize he has no value and are hoping to get a 6th or 7th for him from a team that is desperate enough not to let him go to FA. It really is only a few that don't believe his value has dropped so much over a couple years. When we picked him up most would have gladly trade a 2nd/3rd for him but not now and it's hard for some to justify this kind of drop in value over such a small time
     
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    For the LOVE OF GOD is this ANOTHER post that can't distinguish between:

    QUIET - adjective
    1. making no noise or sound, esp. no disturbing sound: quiet neighbors.
    2. free, or comparatively free, from noise: a quiet street.

    and

    QUITE - adverb
    1.
    completely, wholly, or entirely: quite the reverse; not quite finished.
    2.
    actually, really, or truly: quite a sudden change.


     
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       THEY MAY INTEND TO CUT HIM BUT IF YOU ARE A TEAM THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A.D.MAYBE THEY'D BE INCLINED TO PART WITH A LATE ROUNMD PICK JUST TO AVOID BEING IN COMPETITION FOR HIS SERVICES.ALSO,THERE COULD WELL BE TEAMS THAT FIGURE HIS PERFORMANCE WAS DUE,AT LEAST IN PART,TO HOW THE PATS USED HIM AND THEY WOULD GET A MUCH BETTER RESULT IN THEIR SYSTEM AND THEY COULD VERY WELL BE RIGHT.I CAN SEE SOMETHING LIKE THE PATS PACKAGING HIM AND THEIR 6TH OR 7TH ROUND PICK FOR A 5TH.
     
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    [QUOTE]   THEY MAY INTEND TO CUT HIM BUT IF YOU ARE A TEAM THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A.D.MAYBE THEY'D BE INCLINED TO PART WITH A LATE ROUNMD PICK JUST TO AVOID BEING IN COMPETITION FOR HIS SERVICES.ALSO,THERE COULD WELL BE TEAMS THAT FIGURE HIS PERFORMANCE WAS DUE,AT LEAST IN PART,TO HOW THE PATS USED HIM AND THEY WOULD GET A MUCH BETTER RESULT IN THEIR SYSTEM AND THEY COULD VERY WELL BE RIGHT.I CAN SEE SOMETHING LIKE THE PATS PACKAGING HIM AND THEIR 6TH OR 7TH ROUND PICK FOR A 5TH.
    Posted by kebbe[/QUOTE]

    Yes to all and it is uncapped year, so someone might be willing to spend the money after the draft is done and they are short at OLB. It might happen because it is an uncapped year. We will know a lot by who the Pats pick. No WR? That means high expectations for Tate. No ILB? High expectations for McKenzie. We will see but I still think it is OLB, DL, OL and TE with the first four picks. Trading AT is a 5th and higher round issue. Maybe AT and a a few picks for Osi?
     
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    Uncapped year or not I don't AT is tradeable considering his production and attitude.  We'd be lucky to get a 6th rounder for him. 
     
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    People need to realize that Thomas has no trade value.  Every other team in the league know the Pats are going to cut him.  So in this case, he is not going to on his own get them into the first round paired with a 2nd round pick.
    Posted by Anarchy99


    he is capable of making a immediate and huge impact on a team with pass rush needs. his stats say that clearly (lets no debate what the stats really indicate)

    his troubles are likely a fit issue and i don't think other staffs will think that is too bad given bb's eccentricities.

    this year is uncapped. this is the perfect year to get an adt because his salary will not affect the ability to get the critical pieces of the team. his salary may be relatively high, but probably tolerable. you would not get anyone like that on any other year but this year is different. i think teams will be waiting to see after the draft but he will be traded for decent value (not as an add on to a 2nd to get a 1st - that would be a pipe dream).
     
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    AD + Matt Light to the chicago bears for a 5th round pick
     
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    It's not so much that he's damaged goods to others but he's damaged goods to the Pats.  Teams can set back and wait.  Why do a trade when there's a chance of him being released and getting him cheaper?  Chances of a trade for AD is slim and none.
     
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    In Response to Re: Adalius Thomas + one of the 2nd for a first round pick? : he is capable of making a immediate and huge impact on a team with pass rush needs. his stats say that clearly (lets no debate what the stats really indicate) his troubles are likely a fit issue and i don't think other staffs will think that is too bad given bb's eccentricities. this year is uncapped. this is the perfect year to get an adt because his salary will not affect the ability to get the critical pieces of the team. his salary may be relatively high, but probably tolerable. you would not get anyone like that on any other year but this year is different. i think teams will be waiting to see after the draft but he will be traded for decent value (not as an add on to a 2nd to get a 1st - that would be a pipe dream).
    Posted by seattlepat70

    Are you kidding?

    Probably the highest paid (healthy) LB in the HISTORY of the NFL!  If you measure on a dollars per tackle basis.  Last year he had 26 (not a misprint) solo tackles in 15 games.  That ranked him 382nd in the league for solo tackles.

    There are 32 teams with 11 defensive starters...You do the math...How does he manage to rank 382nd?

    I think we can both agree he was useless last year.  Now the question becomes; Was he misused?

    How many guys leave BB's defensive system and become stars someplace else?
    How many guys leave BB's defensive system and become less productive someplace else?  BB must be an indiot if he can't figure out how to use such a talent.

    As a Pats fan I wish with all my heart that AD lands with the NY Jets.  He will contribute to them about as much as he has contributed to the Pats!

     
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    The Pats should keep AT and draft Tebow and make them room together during camp...Mr. bad attitude vs. Mr. very coachable.
     
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    LIght plus our first second for a 15thish first round pick maybe.  That should net us pouncy...which we can then turn and move Koppen for a 3rd or 4th.  Pair that pick and a few more to generate another 2nd rnd pick I say.  If you can move Adalius for a lower pick or as bait like a lower round pick to move up a few spots I do it. 

    If Pouncy is the guy many say he is...then I want him.  I would be very happy with Pouncy, plus an OT, plus OLB, plus DE, plus WR/TE out of this draft.  I also would not be unhappy to see Koppen, Light, Adalius, and maybe a DL traded to help get the guys that fit best in those spots.
     
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    Who plays the left side once you trade him?  Right now you have AT on the left.  Mayo and Guyton in the middle and TBC on the right.  That is not the best linebacking crew ever.  Take AT out and you have a hole on the left, and a weak right side.  I say keep him.  Let him play the left and fix the right.  There are two major holes in the defense.  The patriots need two new player on the right side.  Why screw up the left side too!!   Fix one hole at a time.  Thomas should be used as an outside pass rushing specialist.  That is what he is good at.  Use him for his strength.  People are always fast to make changes.  I think with BB running the defense this year, AT can shine.  the biggest weakness on the defense is a pass rush.  AT was great at this before he came to the Patriots. 
     
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    Can't see anyone trading for him unless it is a conditional 2011 5th or something like that. The only way that happens is if someone thinks they can turn him around and he would be productive in their system and they don't want to lose him. But honestly I would be shocked if it goes down that way... I am betting he gets released late in Training camp. 
     
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    When a team sees a player falling that they like and the patriots are on the board. They will call the patriots to trade picks. Patriots have leverage in that type of scenario so they will package AT into any of those type of trades (when others call to move up into the Patriots position) The patriots will hold that pick for ranson on taking AT contract.
     
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    In Response to Adalius Thomas + one of the 2nd for a first round pick?: Draft day trade to an NFC team for a 7th round pick is about as good as we can expect on this one.
    Don't want the J-E-T-S to get him, don't want to release him, the rumor mill has been quite... Anyone here anything about possible Adalius Thomas trade possibilities? The only rumor I heard, and it is an old one, was if there was a trade it would probable br a daft day trade
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    In Response to Re: Adalius Thomas + one of the 2nd for a first round pick?: The Steelers once drafted a guy from Florida named Richardson in the first round. In 3 years, he made one tackle. Most expensive tackle in NFL history. The d-coordinator quipped, when he was told Richardson cost them $4 million or so per tackle, "Yeah, but it was a big tackle."

    In Response to Re: Adalius Thomas + one of the 2nd for a first round pick? : Are you kidding? Probably the highest paid  (healthy)  LB in the HISTORY of the NFL!   If you measure on a dollars per tackle basis.  Last year he had 26 (not a misprint) solo tackles in 15 games.  That ranked him 382nd in the league for solo tackles. There are 32 teams with 11 defensive starters...You do the math...How does he manage to rank 382nd? I think we can both agree he was useless last year.  Now the question becomes; Was he misused? How many guys leave BB's defensive system and become stars someplace else? How many guys leave BB's defensive system and become less productive someplace else?  BB must be an indiot if he can't figure out how to use such a talent. As a Pats fan I wish with all my heart that AD lands with the NY Jets.  He will contribute to them about as much as he has contributed to the Pats!
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    Don't want the J-E-T-S to get him, don't want to release him, the rumor mill has been quite... Anyone here anything about possible Adalius Thomas trade possibilities? The only rumor I heard, and it is an old one, was if there was a trade it would probable br a daft day trade
    Posted by Hoier


    There are no trade possibilities. No one wants the hugely underachieving AT and his $5 mil salary. He basically has zero value.

    Might as well keep him and try to get him into a situation where he can succeed here, like a situational pass-rusher, from wherever he's comfortable. 
     
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    I don't think eith side of the pats LB's are fixed atm...TBC can handle one side with New guy on the other.  If the pats can get anything at all for him they move him...if not I think they keep him.
     
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