Addai Getting the "Maroney Treatment" in Indy?

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    Re: Addai Getting the "Maroney Treatment" in Indy?

    I'm with you Tex, although I have to totally disagree with any Indy critisism of Addai. 

    I don't think he's ever had the potential to be better that what we've seen, he's just been fortunate to play in a Manning (pass) offense, which has opened the door for his numbers to appear better than he is (as proven with James before him).  It's a mixed blessing though, because Indy has a history of running their backs into the ground, while at the same time the Patriots have gone to great lenghths to preserve Maroney. 

    I think Indy made it clear from day 1 that their plan was to use him up, and for a smaller, non-elusive back like Addai, it's starting to take its toll on his body.  There just aren't that many RB's that can be the workhorse day in/day out like he was in his first two and a half years.

    On the other hand, I think Maroney was pampered too much when he was healthy.  Now it appears its a moot point.
     
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    It may be just me, but I think Maroney is better when he goes up the sides as opposed to up the middle.  He is better when there is open field in front of him.  He doesn't seem strong enough to break out of holes in the middle.  I say give him one more year and then make a decision.
     
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    Tex that fumble in 06 was one hell of a play by lance briggs in chicago. Maroney ran up the middle and lance stood  him straight up and took the ball right out of his hands. I agree get him in some space and he is deadly. He might get some kick off returns this season which could help him gain some confidence. I do think this is his last chance and hopefully he makes the most of it. As for Addai hes been decent for them but hes not an elite back and probably never will be.
     
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    Fuzz - Addai had 226 attempts in 06 (25th in the league) and 261 attempts in 07 (11th).  I hardly think that is using him up. 

    In situations like these, we never know as much as the team knows.  Yes, addai was hurt ALL year which dramatically hurt his production.  But how hurt?  He started 12 games.   

    This can be construed as him being tough or not really that injured.  If the former, then I say there is a fine line between showing toughness and hurting your team.  If the latter, then well the colts need to look in another direction. 

    Frankly, I think it is a little of both AND platooning RB's has proven to be effective not only with the colts but throughout the league.  I would say that while the colts had needs outside of RB (although this was also a need with Rhodes gone and Hart still mending) Polian felt Brown was too good of a back to pass on. 

     
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    Re: Addai Getting the "Maroney Treatment" in Indy?

    It's a familiar refrain from an Indy perspective -- blame the offensive line, and it certainly is true that if you open a six-lane highway in front of him, Maroney has shown that he will run down it. But expecting holes to be gaping and open forever is asking too much. I don't much give a damn about Addai, but in my opinion Maroney simply does not attack the line of scrimmage -- ever .  .  .  under any circumstances. If that is because he has suffered a succesion of injuries and is contact shy, that's fine .  .  .  go work at Burger King. I'm not particularly interested in digging for reasons to defend guys who don't produce. Mediocre running backs are ten cents for 12.
     
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    Re: Addai Getting the "Maroney Treatment" in Indy?

    I do remember that. But I don't get this "he's great in open space" take.

    Every running back is great in open space, and if guys are hurt, that's fine.

    Should we all sit back and watch him dance around behind the line of scrimmage, perfectly happy that he's useless because he's hurt. Injuries occur, and if you can't come back from them, that's perfectly okay. But why are you taking up space on the roster if you can't play?
     
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    If by the maroney treatment you mean a bunch of bone head fans jumping the gun and calling for a guys job then yes thats the Maroeny treatment. he will do fine in Indy and Maroney will do fine in NE and hopefulyl that will shut both set of fans up.
     
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    Re: Addai Getting the "Maroney Treatment" in Indy?

    I agree with to Tex, he is far to young to quit on. Look at Kevin Faulk he was not always the great player he is now but he stuck around long enough to carve out a nintch for himself and Maroney is able to do the same thing if we let him.
     
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    Again, every running back in the NFL is dangerous once they're "up to full speed" in "open space." Given enough "open space," you or I could be effective NFL running backs. Obviously, that's retarded, but the point is that we have seen what Maroney can do and then we have seen him not do it. The general consensus in here seems to be that this year is some kind of "make or break" year for Maroney and I'm thinking that's probably right. He can either recover from his injuries or he cannot -- so logically, if he's in a contract year, the brass is going to have to take a hard look at what this guy can or cannot be in the NFL. I'd love to see the guy who was getting lose in secondaries two years ago, but I haven't seen him, and frankly I don't expect to.

    Gopher Nation, out.
     
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    TP - I've got to disagree with you.  The colts picked up Kenton Keith who performed pretty effectively at 121 carries 533 yards and 13 receptions.  Other than the nice doink off of keiths hands at the 5 yd line (a sure td against SD that resulted in a great int) in the playoffs, he played well for the colts.  Had he not gotten in trouble with the law, I think he would have been retained for 08 and I don't think Rhodes would have been resigned. 

    Yes, Addai did take a greater load, but 06 was his rookie year.  It should be expected of a probowl rb to take more carries his second year.  At 11th most (261 carries) I don't think that was asking too much. 

    I hope you are right about Brown.  I think it was an expensive pick for a second back.  That said, polian's first round Rb's have turned into probowlers. 

     
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    Re: Addai Getting the "Maroney Treatment" in Indy?

    If dancing Laura starts over bashers Morris and Taylor i'll be surprised.

    Maroney is a 4th RB on this team, Faulk is better also.
     
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    Re: Addai Getting the "Maroney Treatment" in Indy?

    TP - I think I do agree with you that marginal players don't always step up.  And maybe that was keith's issue.  And I also agree that Keith was not as good as Rhodes, but Rhodes was not all that great this last year.  Unfortunately, Hart went down.  It appeared that he might have been very good for the colts last year. 

    I see your point about 3/4 d's but I am not convinced he was overused.  I suppose that is possible if he was injured, but if what you say is absolutely true then it would seem there is no purpose taking an RB in the first which I don't agree with. 
     
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    Re: Addai Getting the "Maroney Treatment" in Indy?

    Interesting conversation. Here's my two cents worth. Going into the preseason I believe there are 6 RBs on the roster, Faulk, Taylor and Morris positions are secure baring injury or other problems, BJGE, Maroney and the new draftee are in a battle to secure one of two remaining or possibly one slot, with BJGE most likely favored going in. Maroney simply must remain healty and produce.
     
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    Re: Addai Getting the "Maroney Treatment" in Indy?

    I'm probably with the minority that thinks Maroney is done in NE.  I have him as not a bust just not a production player considering where he was taken.  Guys sometimes just need a change and thie might be Maroney's.

    I don't think he'll last the season because he won't see the field too much.  If the guys ahead of him stay healthy he will be released or traded if there's any value there.

    I hope if he gets a chance he takes advantage, he has all the ability to be a great RB but just hasn't been able to put it together.  I think he's biggest enemy this year is how many carries are there to be had and how many good RBs are going to take most of those.  If he gets on carry he better take it to the house.
     
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    Re: Addai Getting the "Maroney Treatment" in Indy?

    I never saw Maroney as a regular...didn't see what the fuss was when he hit the NE radar.  His lack of dependability leaves the team always wondrin't if he'll be in the (next) game.  The team obviously needs to establish a running game.  Ergo, I don't see the team "treating" Maroney in a negative fashion.  Rather, he played (or not played) himself into his current position.  Regardless, the Pats need a running game to balance their attack.  'Nuff said.
     
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    Re: Addai Getting the "Maroney Treatment" in Indy?

    The team needs a running game? really? cause i am pretty sure we rushed for over 2000 yards last season with the backs we had. You just want to see a work horse back break 100 yards all by his lonesome but its not going to happen. We did just fine with the guys we had last year. And adding Fred Taylor will only help the group plus a healthy Maroney is always good.
     
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    Re: Addai Getting the "Maroney Treatment" in Indy?

    It may be just me, but I think Maroney is better when he goes up the sides as opposed to up the middle.  He is better when there is open field in front of him.  He doesn't seem strong enough to break out of holes in the middle.  I say give him one more year and then make a decision.
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    I believe his contract expires after this season so if he gets hurt again or continues to under perform you won't see him the next season. If Green-Ellis gets more playing time this coming season and looks good it would take a miracle for Maroney to get resigned
     
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