AFC Championship... Ravens vs Patriots Game Thread

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    To help put things into perspective, after a big loss and far more tragic head and other injuries, here are the word from the inimitable Noam Chomsky on sports:

    Well, in our society, we have things that you might use your intelligence on, like politics, but people really can't get involved in them in a very serious way -- so what they do is they put their minds into other things, such as sports. You're trained to be obedient; you don't have an interesting job; there's no work around for you that's creative; in the cultural environment you're a passive observer of usually pretty tawdry stuff; political and social life are out of your range, they're in the hands of the rich folks. So what's left? Well, one thing that's left is sports -- so you put a lot of the intelligence and the thought and the self-confidence into that. And I suppose that's also one of the basic functions it serves in the society in general: it occupies the population, and keeps them from trying to get involved with things that really matter.

     

    Avram Noam Chomsky, Understanding Power, 2002

     

     



    where have you been all season??? who are you??? i thought i was the only person here who even knows who noam chomsky is!!! i love you!!!

     

     



    Nah, dude, I took a linguistics class from him in college!

     
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    So what's wrong with communists?  All you ever hear is people complaining about our government. Americans have to make up their minds. Which  do you want?  Life for the people, or life door the rich?  

     




    This isn't the time or place. 

     

    Google Stalin, Mao, Stasi, Ceaucescu, Prague 1968, hungary 1956, Berlin Wall, Killing Fields

     

    That should keep you busy until the Patriots open next season!

     

     

     
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    I said it before and I'll say it again, Brady is a choke artist since he married Gretchen or whatever her name is, no I do not care to have even one tiny micro-chip of my brain assigned to Patriots' wives' names. Think about it, BG (Before Gretchen) Three Rings, since then FIVE CHOKES. Once he sits on the bench by himself with his head hung (which he started doing very early on tonight) he should be instantly benched, or at least soundly reprimanded: "Tom, get your hang-dog head up and go lead this team, don't sit here and sulk and continue to be a loser just cuz you had one bad set." That's why I didn't watch them much this year, I knew it would come to something like this, perhaps Tom was thinking of his next GQ photo shoot, or perhaps Gretchen woke him up at 3:00am to ask him why he didn't say anything about her new haircut, and then all hell broke loose with throwing objects and drama. Joe Flacco looked like the Tom of old, making pinpoint passes and going for the JUGULAR. And what's up with the long huiddles at the opening of the Fourth Quarter? HELLO!!! A little urgency, Tom! But we didn't see the urgency until the 2 minute warning, alas....

     
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    To help put things into perspective, after a big loss and far more tragic head and other injuries, here are words from the inimitable Noam Chomsky on sports:

    Well, in our society, we have things that you might use your intelligence on, like politics, but people really can't get involved in them in a very serious way -- so what they do is they put their minds into other things, such as sports. You're trained to be obedient; you don't have an interesting job; there's no work around for you that's creative; in the cultural environment you're a passive observer of usually pretty tawdry stuff; political and social life are out of your range, they're in the hands of the rich folks. So what's left? Well, one thing that's left is sports -- so you put a lot of the intelligence and the thought and the self-confidence into that. And I suppose that's also one of the basic functions it serves in the society in general: it occupies the population, and keeps them from trying to get involved with things that really matter.

     

    Avram Noam Chomsky, Understanding Power, 2002

     

     




     

     

    I think after a heart breaking loss the last thing we need is the wisdom a communist.

     




    Oh no, NOT a communist- he's a libertarian socialist/anarcho syndicalist! So........that's COMPLETELY different!

     

     




     

    That's funny!

     

    I actually met Noam Chomsky back in 1988.  I asked him this:  Are you a communist.  He said "Yes"

    true story

     

     



    So what's wrong with communists?  All you ever hear is people complaining about our government. Americans have to make up their minds. Which  do you want?  Life for the people, or life door the rich?  

     




    Life for "the rich."

    Anybody who steps forward and say they're doing something for "the people......" you turn and you RUN!!!!

     
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    Brady was badly off target in first half regardless of score and when Welker dropped an easy first down catch... the omen of worse to come was given.  When Pats win Brady and Belichick get all the ludos and in this loss Brady and Belichick deserve the bashing I'm sure is coming.  The D was stellar in first half, even though O stunk; and whole team stunk in second half.

     

     
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    Patriots, still without a SpyGate-aided championship. Sorry, too soon?

     
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    Vereen needs to catch these.



    Brady threw it behind him - get glasses - can't Brady lead his receivers anymore?

     
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    The Pat's time has come and gone.  It's over folks. You cannot live off of your reputation forever.  Excuses are for losers.  Face reality. This is a team that is being humiliated on it's home field.  The Ravens are the better team. The tougher team.  Brady is not all that great. He has been surpassed by the younger quarterbacks in the league. Belichick has been surpassed by other coaches.  This is true.  They were thoroughly out-played and out- coached on their home field tonight.  This is not going to change in the near future.  The run is over.  Do not blame the injuries. That is lame. Face the reality of it . It was a great run , but it is over.

     




     

     

    thats pretty much how i see it too.

     



    The run is not over. Give me a break. If Talib does not get hurt it's much closer because it was his man, Boldin, that killed them. Let Welker go, spend some money on defensive players and they will be fine if they spend the money on the right ones. The team is far from done. The Ravens won, they earned it.

     



    I don't think the run is necessarily over either, but I do the window is slowly closing for Brady and some of the other players.  A few plays can change a game and that is whAt happened tonight.  If Welker catches a couple more passes on third down we probably score one or two more TD. little things add up over the course of the game and change the momentum.  Overall, I think we need to use the running backs we have more and this will open up the game for us.  Reality is there are other good teams in the league and it only takes one bad game to get knocked out.

     
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    I said it before and I'll say it again, Brady is a choke artist since he married Gretchen or whatever her name is, no I do not care to have even one tiny micro-chip of my brain assigned to Patriots' wives' names. Think about it, BG (Before Gretchen) Three Rings, since then FIVE CHOKES. Once he sits on the bench by himself with his head hung (which he started doing very early on tonight) he should be instantly benched, or at least soundly reprimanded: "Tom, get your hang-dog head up and go lead this team, don't sit here and sulk and continue to be a loser just cuz you had one bad set." That's why I didn't watch them much this year, I knew it would come to something like this, perhaps Tom was thinking of his next GQ photo shoot, or perhaps Gretchen woke him up at 3:00am to ask him why he didn't say anything about her new haircut, and then all hell broke loose with throwing objects and drama. Joe Flacco looked like the Tom of old, making pinpoint passes and going for the JUGULAR. And what's up with the long huiddles at the opening of the Fourth Quarter? HELLO!!! A little urgency, Tom! But we didn't see the urgency until the 2 minute warning, alas....




    Oh no way- Brady was on point this game. There were too many drops and poor plays called. But he moved it at will against the Ravens and audibled constantly, checkmating the Ravens defense. Flacco is still a subpar QB- just throws jump balls up there and hopes to either get a defensive PI or that an offensive PI doesn't get called. No precision or accuracy, an inability to read defenses and still is an easily-rattled head case.

     
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    Any moron still talking about Spygate has no clue.   Who cares if someone was taping signals that get changed every week.  It was a NON-story.  Get over it.

    Patriots and Brady are human.  Two major themes.  They need several players and better schemes to get a pass rush.  This is a consistent theme for 5 or 6 years.  Talib injury hurt a lot, but they still "only" gave up 28 points.  In second half, Flacco just stood there and waited for open receiver.

    The other BIG theme is to revisit the offense.  Three huge games: 2007 SB, 2012 SB and tonight and the offense was fairly anemic.  They can wrack up points in regular season, but when they run into the tough defenses in playoffs, they struggle and have nowhere near the punch.   They need a very good receiver to stretch the D (what is new) and recommit to the running game.   

    Of course we need DB's but before Talib was hurt, we looked pretty good.  No Pass rush can not cover up any flaws in backfield.

     
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    we need a mobile QB. Brady forgets that he has legs. you can't beat Nota to the corner...seriously?

     

    Second stop hoarding money. Do we really need to be 10 million under the cap? Tired of the Marquis Coles of the world who won't turn around to defend  passes!!!

     
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    It's too bad that the Patriots lost, but I blame them for allowing Baltimore to outplay them, we can't direct our anger - or any stupid hatred - at Baltimore. I'm very disgusted with Belecheck for refusing to do interviews tonight, even to local Boston media. He's a sore loser, and I lost a bit of respect for him tonight. Some of his players were man enough to interview. But I do love my Patriots and I thank them for a good football season. They have a good foundation to build a championship team in upcoming seasons, and the New England Patriots will be back.

     
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    For what it's worth....Chomsky has made it known he hates communism and the authoritarian totalitariananism that goes with it...he  has written about stalinist and maoist war crimes more than once...That is why he considers himself a passionate anarchist...It is about democracy from the  ground up....like the Occupy movment...not a movement dominated by male cult figures...

     
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    Pats needed to force turnovers after those mid-field punts where the Ravens were pinned down at their 8-yard line. Those were the intended choke-holds, but Pats let Flacco wriggle out to mid-field. Pats had and then lost the momentum a few mins. into 2nd quarter. You could feel the tide turning right then.

     
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    Choke artists

     
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    Any moron still talking about Spygate has no clue.   Who cares if someone was taping signals that get changed every week.  It was a NON-story.  Get over it.

    Patriots and Brady are human.  Two major themes.  They need several players and better schemes to get a pass rush.  This is a consistent theme for 5 or 6 years.  Talib injury hurt a lot, but they still "only" gave up 28 points.  In second half, Flacco just stood there and waited for open receiver.

    The other BIG theme is to revisit the offense.  Three huge games: 2007 SB, 2012 SB and tonight and the offense was fairly anemic.  They can wrack up points in regular season, but when they run into the tough defenses in playoffs, they struggle and have nowhere near the punch.   They need a very good receiver to stretch the D (what is new) and recommit to the running game.   

    Of course we need DB's but before Talib was hurt, we looked pretty good.  No Pass rush can not cover up any flaws in backfield.

    So do really have change your id?

     
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    For what it's worth....Chomsky has made it known he hates communism and the authoritarian totalitariananism that goes with it...he  has written about stalinist and maoist war crimes more than once...That is why he considers himself a passionate anarchist...It is about democracy from the  ground up....like the Occupy movment...not a movement dominated by male cult figures...




     

    Not true.  he was a self admitted commie and supporter of the Soviet Union - hoping they would win the cold war.  When they lost, he changed his BS.

     
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    The Pats are a good NFL team with a great passing attack.  So are the Ravens and the 49'rs - but they also have killer running games and better team defenses.  The Pats are too one dimensional and it only shows when they play somebody really balanced like the Ravens.  Pats still had a very good year considering all the injuries and provided a great show this year.  Hats off to Welker for really fighting. 

     
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    This game was more of the Pats big game strategy. Predictable on O, ineefective on D, they don't adjust. Bill's anything but a genius in these games over the past 5 years. Their D strategy is out of date with today's offensive schemes, they need a real d-coord, Patricia needs to go along with the secondary coach, and they need corners who can cover and a scheme that can pressure a QB in a big game. All year the middle of the field has been a free pass zone. 

     
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    Brady's looking a lot like Dan Marino in his last couple of years with the Dolphins when they got blown out in the 1st round of the playoffs for a few years before he retired - yelling at the refs, yelling at his teammates, no mobility, slight loss of accuracy - that's NOT leadership - all that adds up to not scoring enough points to win the game - nothng more, nothing less.

    And I'll say it again - Ridley was out of control and unable to defend himself at the end of a play  - that's why he got his bell rung and fumbled.  Hoping Shalise calls it like it is - waiting to see.

     
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    Pats got clocked.  The defense seemed ok in the 1st half but the offense was anemic throughout.  The only TD came on a blown play by the Ravens.  In the 2nd half the Pats were really a non-factor, completely non-existent, incapable of putting a drive together or getting anyone out of 3rd down.  It was a bad loss.


    It was clear frm the start they had no one capable of catching a pass more than 12 yards from scrimmage.  The supposedly "explosive" offense is in fact anemic when faced with a tough defense.  Not the first time this happened, but apparently goes unnoticed.  Clearly they need WR's with speed  They obviously missed Gronkowski.  Branch seems irrelevant.  Is Slater so bad that they do not even have a couple of plays in the book for him?


    And now?  Regroup.  Pay Welker on a 2, 3 year package.  Get some WR's to come in.  Clean up the secondary (is Chung worth keeping?  Probably not at the money he will command.)

     
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    Brady had a QB rating of 63. That is pathetic. He is a CHOKE ARTIST. Either that or he is just not that good. I think he needs to be traded for a package of draft picks and that this team needs to rebuilt around defense first.




    I couldn't agree with you more.

     
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    The Pat's simply got beat up by a tougher , hungrier team. Out played and out coached. Belichick and Brady are living off of their reputation. They should be thankful for Vinatieri. If he blows a couple of tough kicks , they would be known as some of the biggest big game losers ever.  The game has changed. Like I said , it was a great run, but it is over.  Simple as that.

     
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