AGENT: "Joe Flacco deserves to be the HIGHEST paid player in the league!" AGREE?

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    Re: AGENT:

    Couple of answers - Cap hit is almost always higher than salary, because teams use signing bonuses to spread a big up front payment over the length of the contract. And when a player gets cut, the prorated bonus money for the remaining years of the contract go into the 'dead money' cap hit that teams take. When Brady renegotiated his current contract, he got a big signing bonus and lower early salaries with big salaries at the end of the contract which is now hitting the books.

    As for Flaco - tough to argue with his agents valuation. He has been a consistent winner including in the post season, and this year with the change of coordinator had a very consistent second half and great post season. He is big, relatively mobile, good accuracy and a great long ball thower. And he is young. If they do sign a contract (as opposed to a tag) he should be getting around 20M/5years with 50M or 60M guaranteed. They will probably include a big signing bonus to reduce the first couple of years to 10M-15M cap hit and hope the cap rises before the back end hits.

     
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    Re: AGENT:

    Definately should not be the highest paid player but he will be in the top 10.

     
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    Agree. He should break the bank in Baltimore, don't settle for anything less than $20 millions a year for 10 years, and let the team mired in cap space hell .

     
     
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    Re: AGENT:

    Agree his agent should say that and try for that.

    That is all.

     
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    Re: AGENT:

    I don't know that Flacco will be the highest paid player in the league nor should he be.  I do agree that he should be well paid and probably in the top 10.  We'll see.

     
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    He should ask for it, and he does have a point about his age vs. the others.  Do you pay for potential, or past success?

    So, that being said, he should start his negotiating there, but would be a foold to stick with it. 

     
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    Re: AGENT:

    Sounds good to me. We won't be paying it.

     
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    Re: AGENT:

    he earned his pay day with his play in the playoffs....but if they pay him that money, they better hope he consistently plays as well as he did in these playoffs. cant afford to have fluke-o show up again when he is getting paid that much.

     
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    Re: AGENT:

    He should be glad he has a job!

     
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    Flaco is 28, had the highest passer rating in the league this year, third in interceptions, has won more games than any other QB since he came into the league, has more playoff road wins than any other QB ever, etc. etc.

    Is he Manning or Brady in their primes, maybe not, but he is young, strong, has the longest consecutive game streak, and has outplayed Brees, Brady, Manning, and Rogers over the last few years. AND his contract is up this year and inflation at the top end always happens.

    I am pretty sure Balt knew he was going to be looking for 20M/yr - he has been saying that for two years now. They can franchise him but that is going to be a huge cap hit at 15M - on a contract they can probably drop that number down quite a bit for the first few years.

    It is going to have an effect on what the rest of the team looks like - of course. They are going to lose a lot of wiggle room on other veteran contracts. But they aren't stupid and have known this day was coming. And they have some decent young guys in the pipeline.

    This is what people seem to miss when criticizing BB and the Pats. A top veteran QB takes up 1/6th of your cap. Add in a few other important top veteran leaders and you are at 50% of your cap quickly. You then have to find another 12-15 starters and 30+ reserves for a total of around 60M or 1.1M each.

    In 2013 currently Brady, Wilfork, and Mankins come in at 42M in cap space. Add in Mayo (5.6M), Lloyd (4.5M), Hernandez (4M), and Gostkowski (3.4M) and you are at 60M. That is 7 players out of about 60 final roster plus injured reserve players. So the other 53 players average yearly salary is $1.1M. So signing say Talib to a 5M contract means you have to offset with 6 or 7 players on minimum contracts. Welker at 7M means 10 players on minimums. And you can't just cut veteran players on high cap hit salaries because you typically take a pretty serious dead money cap hit. The seven players above if cut would have a 62.6M dead money hit! (prorated bonus money)

    I suspect the Pats may try to extend Brady this year to spread his cap hit out a little, but the economics of building and maintaining a team are pretty clear. Roster churn and letting players like Samuels and Seymour leave makes a little more sense. And renting players for a year like Carter and Anderson when their value was low also makes sense.

     
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    Re: AGENT:

    In response to bingobilly's comment:

    He should be glad he has a job!



    It does not  work that way. Everything is relative. The man played great and should get paid now. 15 mil won't get it done. The ravens must pay him, however, they should be worried that he becomes the next Mark Sanchez in a year or two. 

     
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    Re: AGENT:

    In response to RockScully's comment:

    In response to nomadfan's comment:

     

    Agree. He should break the bank in Baltimore, don't settle for anything less than $20 millions a year for 10 years, and let the team mired in cap space hell .

     




    I seriously think they were banking on him being good, but not great.  It's backfired because Newsome has zero leverage in the negotiations which means he'll get a bigger contract than Brees's, which is ridiculous, but what the market is.

     

    If he was just good vs great this postseason, it's probably more in the 15 mil per range vs 22 or 23+ per.

    That's a huge difference.

     



    Yup, I hope he gets paid 2-3 quality players worth higher than an average QB.

     
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    Re: AGENT:

    Pay him. Pay pay.   Give him Lewis and reed money.  The salary cap isabitch. 

     
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    Re: AGENT:

    "I seriously think they were banking on him being good, but not great.  It's backfired because Newsome has zero leverage in the negotiations which means he'll get a bigger contract than Brees's, which is ridiculous, but what the market is.

     

    If he was just good vs great this postseason, it's probably more in the 15 mil per range vs 22 or 23+ per."

    Yup. This is good news for the Pats and anyone who roots against the Ravens for that matter. Flacco throwing to low-priced Reche Caldwell type scrubs works for me....

     
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    Re: AGENT:

    Let the Ravens pay him what he wants. Obvious salary cap issues for them if they do. 

     
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    Re: AGENT:

    In response to BostonProSportsLover's comment:

    frankly i would franchise him and consider and TRADING him after next season if he holds on  to hi s $ demands. like with his teacher bb, ozzie who is the BEST in the game can certainly find better value in the draft and else where. what kind of haul could flacco bring? i say at least 2 first rounders plus a boat load of 3s 4s and 5s.... what ever rg3 got times 2. take an entire team's draft class for 2 years.



    You can't trade a player who isn't under contract. You could sign and then trade him, but he would then be coming with a $20/year price tag which is a hell of a lot more than Luck or RGIII are getting paid. You might get a 1st and 2nd, but probably not much more.

     
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