Alfonzo Dennard

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    In Response to Re: Alfonzo Dennard : I married the girl I was driving to the night I got stuck in a ditch, she was going to school out of state at the time and I was leaving work and sober, but thanks again for your foolish lies and assumptions.  I have been teaching 5th grade Sci/SS for 4 years now My stint in the guard included helping during Katrina for 2 months in '05 A judge excused my felony charge and made it clear the officer was wrong . The charge itself was wrong, 1700's farm stonewalls on the side of New England roads do not fit the description of the felony property damage I was written up for. But again, thanks for your pathetic assumptions. All the other college campus situations I referenced took place 8-12 years ago, and again, the officers were wrong (they were of course not felonies), caring more about 'catching an underage kid drinking or for possession' over the health and safety of basically teengers growing up and experienceing life is pathetic. Not all officers are like this, but many are. Your comments above are racist (lily white?) and take anything I said out of context. I said racial profiling is a sad fact and players like Dennard/Jenkins are often the victims of it. I said even though police officers treated me and others around me unfairly MANY times, LUCKILY race was never a factor as it is so often for athletes targeted b/c they are black. TRUE FACT. A person who hits a woman or a child is a loser.  A person who is involved in drunken bar alteractions with cops or other college aged kids or smokes weed is just being 18-23 years old, and its not as big deal as narrow-minded individuals with a desire to judge others and rant from a soap box like yourself make it out to be. MANY times the officer is more at fault than the person arrested. If you are an NFL veteran or a 30 year old teacher like me and are out doing these things at night then its a different story. you're wrong, but thanks for playing
    Posted by rameakap


     AHH YES.. LAWS ARE FOR OTHERS.. COPS shouldn't harass me, and anytime anyone of color does something wrong the cop is only harassing him because he is a BIGGOT defense..... LOL


    Lets discuss Tawna Brawley....... what ya say?
     
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    Give it a rest FenwayChuck, well, actually both of you. This forum is not here for you to vent your own personal issues. Stick to Pats football. There is no room for this BS. In Response to Re: Alfonzo Dennard :
    Posted by PMacPatFan


    As much as I like to see a variety of opinions on this forum, I'm inclined to agree with the above, guys.  Could we keep it about football or at least football related issues?
     
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    sure guys,  I proved my points on cops, and my own situation(s), especially the one where the judge said the cop was WRONG and dropped all charges, yet Chuck seems to somehow want to contradict that decision from his keyboard. Someone has to talk Chuck off the ledge, he made quite the fool of himself today, haha. As for Dennard, the orginal points being made on him were these: 1. He's a college kid, not an NFL veteran, so he's allowed to make mistakes involving bars and partying as everyone does growing up 2. He 'assualted' a police officer, not a woman, child or teammate 3. It is well known that cops are guilty of racial profiling and singling out African Americans for arrest or mistreatment, its an epidemic in this country 4. Even if the arrest had nothing to do with race , police officers, esp on-campus ones, are well known for making fairly harmless situations involving drinking/smoking or being at clubs/parties into big legal issues AND intentionally exacerbating said situation to try and get someone who is already drunk/confused/upset to 'assault' the officer with something as harmless as s shove, therefore making the arrest (and ensuing police brutality) all that easier for the bully 5. We should all refrain from having an opinion on the type of person/teammate/football player Alphonso Dennard will be based on his poorly timed arrest before the draft Thanks
    Posted by rameakap


    hey rame, haevent read teh whoel thread yet.
    re " He 'assualted' a police officer, not a woman, child or teammate"
    all we know for sure si that he was charged with "assaulting" a police officer and what teh police "said"
    with you on the rest.

    peace brother
     
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    punching a cop= assaulting a police officer= automatic jail time when convicted. i really dont see how you get out of that in any way, shape, or form. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Alfonzo Dennard :  AHH YES.. LAWS ARE FOR OTHERS.. COPS shouldn't harass me, and anytime anyone of color does something wrong the cop is only harassing him because he is a BIGGOT defense..... LOL Lets discuss Tawna Brawley....... what ya say?
    Posted by FenwayChuck



    "anytime anyone of color does something wrong the cop is only harassing him because he is a BIGGOT defense..... LOL"

    the blindness of racism
     
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    as a matter of fact he is being charged with third degree assault on a police officer and resisting arrest. the report said it took 4 cops to take dennard into custody. hearing is monday in lincoln nebraska. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Alfonzo Dennard : I married the girl I was driving to the night I got stuck in a ditch, she was going to school out of state at the time and I was leaving work and sober, but thanks again for your foolish lies and assumptions.  I have been teaching 5th grade Sci/SS for 4 years now My stint in the guard included helping during Katrina for 2 months in '05 A judge excused my felony charge and made it clear the officer was wrong . The charge itself was wrong, 1700's farm stonewalls on the side of New England roads do not fit the description of the felony property damage I was written up for. But again, thanks for your pathetic assumptions. All the other college campus situations I referenced took place 8-12 years ago, and again, the officers were wrong (they were of course not felonies), caring more about 'catching an underage kid drinking or for possession' over the health and safety of basically teengers growing up and experienceing life is pathetic. Not all officers are like this, but many are. Your comments above are racist (lily white?) and take anything I said out of context. I said racial profiling is a sad fact and players like Dennard/Jenkins are often the victims of it. I said even though police officers treated me and others around me unfairly MANY times, LUCKILY race was never a factor as it is so often for athletes targeted b/c they are black. TRUE FACT. A person who hits a woman or a child is a loser.  A person who is involved in drunken bar alteractions with cops or other college aged kids or smokes weed is just being 18-23 years old, and its not as big deal as narrow-minded individuals with a desire to judge others and rant from a soap box like yourself make it out to be. MANY times the officer is more at fault than the person arrested. If you are an NFL veteran or a 30 year old teacher like me and are out doing these things at night then its a different story. you're wrong, but thanks for playing
    Posted by rameakap


    the pernicious thing about racism, instituionalized racism and other oppressions,
    it is that it is the psychosis of the day in a culture, so all members of the culture will defend its norms without even knowing it (and are completely blind to it (even those who belong to an oppressed group will internalize the oppression against thehmselves becasue i is taught from birth to everyone ie doll studies with children, girls learning they have less value in society by 5, gils learning they should be emaciated to look attractive by 9, etc ,etc). as blind as a culture that is trained to only actually see a shade or color differently than it is (another anthropological finding).

    see ricky shereover marcuse - "liberation theory" for on introduction.
    or read about or even better, take a workshop or class in "diversity training", womens's studies, and or african american studies.

    efforts to elucidate and unlearn oppressions will only work with those actually curious about and interested in justice, fairness and undoing cultural harmful conditioning.


    peace y'all
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Alfonzo Dennard : Come on, like we haven't all done this before.  GIve the kid a chance.  What a steal in the 7th.
    Posted by TFB12[/QUOT

    Well of course... except for the Tasering .. but then again I'm older and that technology wan't around.

    give the kid a break.

    Like Don Cherry said when Wayne Cashman was penalized for eye gouging.  " as long as the boys are having fun".

     I guess that reference does make me old!
     
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    as a matter of fact he is being charged with third degree assault on a police officer and resisting arrest. the report said it took 4 cops to take dennard into custody. hearing is monday in lincoln nebraska. 
    Posted by isurfvb24



    fully realize the charges are serious. he veywell may  have struck an officer.
    and it's also possible he was defending himself , ie it is possible he was getting assaulted by 1 or more officers. we will never know the truth unless someone prodduces a video of it.
       a couple months ago someone wwith a cell videotaped 2 arrested black youth. on a disorderly arrest. were sat down next to one another in cuffs.
    wehn officers went to move him one officer got all nervous drew his gun and shot him unprovoked. happens every day, only this was videotaped.
     
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    punching a cop= assaulting a police officer= automatic jail time when convicted. i really dont see how you get out of that in any way, shape, or form. 
    Posted by isurfvb24


    ii posted about this yesterday. hope he pleads to a reduced charge ideally misdemeanor.
    assault on an officer yes could mean time.
     
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    In Response to Re: Alfonzo Dennard : fully realize the charges are serious. he veywell may  have struck an officer. and it's also possible he was defending himself , ie it is possible he was getting assaulted by 1 or more officers. we will never know the truth unless someone prodduces a video of it.    a couple months ago someone wwith a cell videotaped 2 arrested black youth. on a disorderly arrest. were sat down next to one another in cuffs. wehn officers went to move him one officer got all nervous drew his gun and shot him unprovoked. happens every day, only this was videotaped.
    Posted by bredbru


    doubt it, he punched alshon jeffries during the cotton bowl and got kicked out of the game, i dont know the facts and i am not taking any sides but when you are charged with third degree assault (on a officer) and resisting arrest it sounds like he is going to get into some big trouble. hopefully for dennard this wakes him up and he screws his head on straight and stays in the clear from now on and his college talent translates to that on the field in a patriot uniform.
     
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    In Response to Re: Alfonzo Dennard : so many times they instigate situations, go on power trips, demean and humiliate a person and puff up the charges during the arrest to make it look worse than the actual situation was Posted by rameakap
    ============================================================ +1 My experience is the police are mostly corrput bully punks on the public dole. Interesting how so many peope look the other way or accept their victimization of people, maybe because they mosly target people 'different' than you?            
    Posted by expertmike


    your comnets are right on the mark.

    until it is you ... or your family member.

    the psychological profile of a person who becomes a police officer (ie some common psychological traits): are low self esteem, a need to exert power over others in order to feel better about themself and or more a sense of control in their own life, simplistic black and white morality thinking - morality development has not reached maturity ie only operates with the concepts of the "morality" of a society as opposed to more highly developed inner morality mechanism (could go on but lets leave it there).
 
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    In Response to Re: Alfonzo Dennard : doubt it, he punched alshon jeffries during the cotton bowl and got kicked out of the game, i dont know the facts and i am not taking any sides but when you are charged with third degree assault (on a officer) and resisting arrest it sounds like he is going to get into some big trouble. hopefully for dennard this wakes him up and he screws his head on straight and stays in the clear from now on and his college talent translates to that on the field in a patriot uniform.
    Posted by isurfvb24


    for clarity what exactly are you doubting?
     
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    time to go to work. catch you later
     
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    http://www.1011now.com/home/headlines/Nebraska_Cornerback_Arrested_for_Assaulting_a_Police_Officer_148370755.html

    stand up guy this alfonzo dennard.
     
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    I guess you never were told --"Believe half what you see and nothing that you hear". BB said they did the research on the incident and were comftable with the pick-Maybe you know more than the Pats boss-possibly?In Response to Re: Alfonzo Dennard:
    In Response to Re: Alfonzo Dennard : If you click the link and read the article, he was actually in a bar fight, which the cops where called to break up, he literally punched the cop, and it took 4 officers to subdue him.  He was also ejected from his last game for fighting. 
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    Exactly my point-Cops always trump up the charges then it goes to court where they give you a plea deal and they get their money and community service out of you---it's the systems game!!!!  Lawyer friends have told me the prosecuters and defense lawyers hang out even have drinks and have some good laughs about the shat! This kid will be fine with Vince and Mayo etc guiding him along-and he did play 3 years at Nebraska with no other incidents-probably some racist drunk mouthing off at him and he went off on the jerk and then here come the posse-can't stand cops and really don't care what anyone on this board thinks about my dislike for these paid officials that get their jollies off on pushing people around and alot of the stuff is minor-thats why the constitution says the right to bear arms-I have many and don't need some picked on high school -turned cop protecting me.In Response to Re: Alfonzo Dennard:
    In Response to Re: Alfonzo Dennard : yeah the cops always make the charges worse than they are. I swerved to hit a deer once and hit a stone wall, shifted some stones, got my car stuck in the ditch next to it, had a friend pick me up, figured I'd call a tow truck in the morning since it was 2am. I was awakended by the cops at my door, gave me a ticket for 'evasion' (which is a felony for property damage hit and run) apparently this 1700's farm stone wall was on someone's property in the middle of nowhere side of the woods and a few stones were out of place. $1,500 in lawyer fee's later I got a ticket for 'traveling too fast for the conditions' such B.S. hahaha anyhow thats my rant, hopefully Dennard is a good kid that made a dumb/drunk/college type mistake that so many of us do at that age
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    I've actually volunteered to help with some side US Census Add-on work.  They've tasked me with attempting to find some base overall numbers in my neck of the woods on 45+ year White American Males making 50k or over a year who have no ideals minus judging their full-respect for others based on what Type of uniform you wear at work, your quality of automobile, and how to best rank your Overall Life's Sum of Capitalism the moment you inevitably cr0ak, in order to fully determine IF you've led a "Good, Successful, and Positive Life here on Earth,".... I was hoping- See, Is it o.k. with Everyone If I just start my study right here with this thread?  They said to me, to try ta see IF I could get some sorta "generalized theme" with some seperate themes revolving around bigotry, being a pv##y, and having zero critical analysis skills based on how the real world works verses how Fox News tells you, the real world works...  I said as I was wipping away the laughing tears from my eyes "Hahaha, lol- Don't worry, no seperate side study is gonna be neccessary, whatsoever..."
    Posted by LazarusintheSanatorium


    point taken.
    humor or sarcasm or whatever it takes (short of attack). the point is getting across. hopefully also to those who may need it.
     
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    Sounds like your doing some judging also. BTW I was in the Marine Corps in the 70s and don't go around bragging about it--sounds to me you were a lifer working in administration. I agree with the poster your JUDGING!!! And who are you to tell someone to go suck their thumb in the corner-sounds like you'd make a great cop--arrogant-power hungry and egotistical and insecure----you come off as weak my friend. I wonder how many times you have told someone to their face to go suck their thumb in the corner--I thought so----those that talk don't do-just rambling fools-get some counseling.In Response to Re: Alfonzo Dennard:
    In Response to Re: Alfonzo Dennard : WOW, You are in the National Guard huh.....  I AM SO HONORED TO SPEAK WITH YOU...... NOT.... Give me a break..... get a life you little thumb sucker.... I was in the REAL MILITARY for 20+ years....  I honor those who actually serve beside me in the real theater... but not those of YOU that sit a college and judge others because YOU HAVE NOT BEEN THERE.... Those who joined the guard and actually got deployed are GODS in my mind. I hope that when the time comes that you were trained well.... because there WILL be decisions you are required to make that will require YOU to think, not look in some damned book and follow some damned scenario.  YOU have NO concept of what the real world is based on YOUR view of what YOU think happened.  YOU also have no idea who I am and what I have been through... so again I tell you GRAB A CORNER AND SUCK YOUR THUMB! You have no respect for the campus police(your words)..... who BTW are trying to uphold the campus or state LAWS (whether you like them or not)....  that is all I have to hear from you. YOU are such a spoiled little brat that YOU believe you have a right to judge someone else who is entering a building full of law breakers, as being WRONG for doing their job.  YES there are those that can be a little overboard, but for every handful of those like that, there are those who go home in a box ( because they were dumb enough not to perceive the threats around them). Wow you have seen cops antagonize kids who had too much to drink but did nothing wrong?   REALLY?... SO publicly displaying your DRUNKENESS or being rowdy is doing nothing wrong?  REALLY????  HAving a littl eMarijuana if the law says it is illegal is NOT wrong?  LOOK if it is a lwa they are supposed to enforce it- whether I agree with it or not. Please explain your accident....  DID YOU LEAVE THE CAR?.... OR did you stay with the car and were intoxicated in it when the cops came?  Because both of those are violations of the law.... I KNOW that you don't like the laws.... but lets ask; 1) You are driving- Drunk or not....  YOU swerve to avoid a deer (Very noble of you).... YOU run along the side of the road into a ditch and hitting a wall....  DAMAGING SOMEONE ELSE's PROPERTY DID YOU NOT?   In every state they have a value of (damage/ stealing) of anothers property that makes it a felony... it is based on how much you did.  LEAVING the scene of an accident where excessive property damage is done is a CRIME!  DUH!!!  SO now these mean cops picked on you?  REALLY?.... They woke you up and having seen the scene of your sccident figured you must have been toasted.....  HMMM?  SO they attempted to intimidate you into saying you were.... or your mind knew you had a few the night before and when they asked several questions about the accident you felt like they were intimidating? YOU WERE IN THE WRONG..... You are one of the people I mention with a lack of integrity and personal responsibility..... IT is their place to UPHOLD the law.... NOT to decide it doesn't need to be enforced....   IF you have a nice set of 8oo8's they are more lenient on you.... but oh well... what can I say....   IT is their place to CITE you for disobeying the law and allow the states attorney to decide whether there is enough evidence for the case to go to court.  THE states attorney are the ones who would have decided to charge you with evading, and escaping the scene of the damage.... they do the paperwork.   The COPS investigate and throw it at the COURTS hands and they prefer the correct charges.  In a lot of places the two co-mingle the jobs so that those of you as well educated as you can accuse them of improeperly treating you... LEAVING THE SCENE OF AN ACCIDENT IS A CRIME... IF THE VALUE OF DAMAGE IS HIGH ENOUGH /> /> /> IT IS A FELONY..... YOU WERE WRONG.. and won't accept the responsibility.... it is all their fault.... GO BACK IN YOUR CORNER AND SUCK YOUR THUMB.....
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    Hope he stays in great football shape while in prison. Did the Pats take him on recommendation from Lawrence Phillips?
    Posted by nomadfan
    First and foremost he isn't going to prison. Secondly I'd like to hear his side of the story before judging him in any way.
     
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    In Response to Re: Alfonzo Dennard : First and foremost he isn't going to prison. Secondly I'd like to hear his side of the story before judging him in any way.
    Posted by sportsbozo1


    sports worst case scenario, depending on the d.a. and judge he could go to jail.
    hopefull he gets a reduced cahrge, ideally to a msidemeanor otherwise with time or not he will get probation ie mess up and go to jail.
     
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    BB called his agent and had him allegedly punch the cop so Dennard would drop in the draft to the Pats.  haha

    I liked him as the Safety option in even late Rd 1 before the incident.  Great press guy, you can use him in the box on HBacks and he has some good range. 

    This pick alone makes the Mel Kiper drama with Wilson seem meaningless.  Also, with regards to Wilson from Illinois, why do people care what Mel Kiper says or does?

    Mayock and Lombardi were raving about BB's draft the other day.  In fact, many pundits are.

    Anytime Kiper reaches for paperwork with the Pats, I not only laugh, I see it as a good sign.

    GREAT pick of Dennard in Round 7. Even with the incident, I have no idea how he dropped to the 7th rd.


    Overall, BB owned the 1st rd grabbed Bequette and got his projects late in the draft yet again. Sure smells like another good or great draft to me, his 3rd in a row.

    The infusion to the weak spots on D appears to be complete. Hightower, Mayo and Spikes?  Oh my.   Might be the best MLB crew in the NFL.
     
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    We'll see what charges actually stick and what don't.  I question the decision to be in a bar late at night before the draft more than I do some supposed punches being thrown at a bunch of cops.
     
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