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In 2010, BB started 4 rookies on D, 2 on offense and it was beyond clear going into the lockout what the approach was.
Of course he started rookies on D in 2010 dumbkoff. He had just blown SEVEN high draft picks on defense in the previous 3 years!
Meriweather, Crable, Wheatley, McKenzie, Butler, Brace and Chung.
Junior, please at least put up a fight here. Debating you on BB's great team building is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Wow, I forgot about some of those names...painfull to see. I think it's funny how Rusty goes on and on about how San Fran has built their defense upon ten years of their top ten picks...very far from the truth. In fact the only top ten pick of theirs is Aldon Smith. Bowman was a third rounder. Justin Smith was a free agent signing. Dashon Goldson was a fourth round pick. Donte Wittner was a free agent signing. Ahmad Brooks was a free agent signing and a guy that went in the supplemental draft to Cincy. The only guy that was near a "top ten pick" was the best middle linebacker in the NFL, Patrick Willis at 11. San FRan is a perfect example of a defense built through multiple resources available to any team...draft, free agency, trades. And take a look at Baltimore's defense - now there's a defense built on the draft and none of them were "top ten picks".
Aside from the draft busts you mention - the free agent busts are even worse...Haynesworth, Gregory, Springs, Bodden, Fenene, Ellis, Banta Cain...we spent millions on these dopes...they did nothing to help. What are the total contract values in those names? 50 million? How much of that fifty million worked out for us? None. Money and resources wasted.
BB has just not gotten it done as GM. It's not that he has been terrible (except on D picks and some real dog FAs) but average or above average means you have an 8-8 team. Brady and no other stud QB in the division mitigates that but he alone can't carry that mediocrity to the promised land.
More and more people are seeing what a few of us have seen for years. Sad but true. The genius coach is sure as hell not a genius GM.
The party is just about over. I'm afraid unless BB gets very lucky we won't see a Lombardi before Brady hangs them up. Kraft shows no signs of bringing in somebody who can make better personnel decisions. And I doubt BB's ego would put up with that either.
Let's hope for a miracle.
Its definately time for BB to get a draft consultant in regards to WRs and DBs. 2 positions that he has def. failed at and it has nothing to do with WHERE we were drafting because I can site a player for everyone drafted that I had on my list that went AFTER we picked. The most glaring being Jackons over Jennings that set us back. More recently we picked Taylor Price over Navarro Bowman....lol
Explain that away Wozzy....
What are you even talking about? I can't say that you have done this before because I have no idea but people often want to talk out both sides of their face. Half the time they complain that we take the character guy over the pure talent. Well the Pats took the better talent athlete. Let's not have revistionist history here. I do not know too many people who were not psyched about drafting Jackson "at the time". I was! He was a beast. I had no idea he was lazy. Which is what came out WAY later via a Troy Brown interview. He aparently did not want to put in thw work but on pure talent and ability alone you would never have questioned that pick "at the time". He was big, fast, strong, and never dropped a thing. People can't have it both ways. Can't complain we do not go for the talented guys then cry about it when they turn out to not have been worth the gamble on the character concerns.
Another thing that is an absolute joke that people do AND combine it with the argument trait I spoke of above is talking about missing on a player in the 3rd round or later that ends up being a stud. Picking Tom Brady was pure luck but somehow not picking Bowman over Price was some sort of egregious mistake. Every other team in the league passed on Bowman 3 times practically. If they thought he'd play like he apparently has then he would have gone in the 1st not the 3rd. The team picking him got as lucky as the Pats did picking Brady. Also, you would not even make that argument if the Pats are looking for a WR in that range they are not looking for a LB in that spot. You would need to go look for some other WR that got picked after price who is some sort of stud. Then you would still be left with the idea that they got lucky because if everyone knew he was a stud he would not be going at the "end" of the 3rd round.
Lastly everyone always wants to assume that because a player plays well for some other team in their system and role that the same player would have exactly the same success playing in the patriots system and role he would be given by the team. It does NOT work that way.
Your arguments are misguided and off base at best. Most people do NOT add any context to everything going on in an organization at the time a decision is made on a player. What systems they are running, who is currently on the roster, what is the cap/mponey situation of the players on the roster. Is a particular position group aging. How many players are still on the board for the pistion group you are looking to add to as well as what is the disparity to your own organizational rankings of those remaining players. Time to impact of drafting a particular player. Etc, etc.
I guess you missed the part where I said BB cant take fault for Jackson cuz he looked the part and also recieved a good recomendation from Meyers.. Gosh dont u people READ before you snap back with a response. Long winded at that. Sorry I stopped after the 1st paragraph. If u have THAT much to say, its probably spin
Apologies, I did not go back to the beginning of your entire conversation with who ever you were speaking to. I wrote in response to only what you wrote last.
...but if you previously wrote it not being an issue because he looked the part why then go back and use it as an example of not being able to evaluate talent? odd. One minute its not an example and then the next it is? I would still say I am not sure what you are trying to say exactly.
Its called doing your JOB as BB sais. Do your do dilligence and SCOUT players instead of taking some fluffed up analysis from a guy who would NEVER give a bad evaluation about his players. James Sanders came from Fresno St. Recommended. He played a role here, that was nice. Its a 5th rd pick so no complaints from me but how many schools are involved in this process? how much talent do you lose out on by going to fresno st and picking players from your buddies system? I said he wasnt at fault for Jackson S*cking but he WAS at fault for beleiving Meyers without doing his own research and also had him in and supposedly raved about him so he MISSED something, no?