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    hopefully this draft comes true because i would be very happy! heyward and ingram would be awesome, all we would need for the rest of the rounds would be C/OG, OLB, and a DB. I we would be able to bring in a few good FA's such as steven jackson or Chinedum Ndukwe DB (Bengals) we would be set.
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    By: Robert Davis | Updated: 10/6 
    1. Bills - Jake Locker, QB, Washington
      This debate on the top QB is going to last until draft day, but Locker is a clear cut above here. He still needs work, but he has the things you can’t teach - talent and leadership - to be a star at the next level.
    2. Lions - Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
      Peterson is the type of shut down corner every team dreams of having. The size, the athleticism, and playmaking ability to match up with any receiver in the NFL.
    3. Browns - Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina
      Quinn has a lot to prove once he gets back on the field, but he has the potential to go here. He would address the need for a top tier pass rusher in the front seven for the Browns, and could be a true force off the edge.
    4. Panthers - Marcel Dareus, DT, Alabama
      The offense has struggled so far, but there is quite a bit of talent that should develop over the course of the season, allowing Carolina to address the defense. Dareus would plug a major hole on the defensive line, which has taken some big hits recently with player defections.
    5. Patriots(Raiders) - Cameron Heyward, DL, Ohio St.
      A once feared defensive unit has struggled the past few seasons. A lack of a consistent pass rush is the biggest culprit, but help along the line is also up there. Heyward is a great fit as a 3-4 end, and his availability would make it hard for Bill Belichick to pass on.

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    6. Rams - AJ Green, WR, Georgia
      Green is part of a cast of top prospects that have been suspended to start the season, but once he gets going, his talent will prove worthy of this selection. The Rams have gotten a QB and a left tackle in the past two drafts, now it’s time to find a go to receiver to complete the offensive overhaul.
    7. Jaguars - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
      There was a lot of talk about the Jags looking for a QB last year, namely Tim Tebow, but they were handuffed with a lack of picks and pressing needs elsewhere. QB may be just as pressing a need as any spot, and if Luck is on the board, do not expect him to last any longer.
    8. 49ers - Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska
      Adding some more talent to the corner position was under consideration last April, so it will definitely be near the top of the list this time around. Amukamara will battle Peterson all year for the right to be the top corner taken off the board.
    9. Giants - Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
      This is a bit of a projection pick, but expect to continue to hear more about Solder as the draft gets closer. His athleticism and mobility is exactly what teams crave at the tackle position, and he could be the top tackle taken when all is said and done.
    10. Broncos - Allen Bailey, DL, Miami
      Some more talent up front is a need for every team attempting build a successful 3-4 defense. Bailey has played all over in a 3-4 but has the skills to project to a 3-4 scheme as an end.

       

    11. Cardinals - Bruce Carter, LB, North Carolina
      Carter is a guy who could vault up the boards in the post season. While not as big overall as Karlos Dansby, he could project as the same type of versatile playmaker from the linebacker position. A tackle or QB will draw a lot of consideration in the draft, especially if they are drafting higher.
    12. Redskins - Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
      Jones’ size and playmaking ability would give McNabb the best wide out he has thrown to since Terrell Owens.
    13. Buccaneers - Janoris Jenkins, CB, Florida
      A tackle will draw a lot of consideration here to help keep Josh Freeman upright, but a top flight corner would be tough to pass on at this point. Jenkins could form an exciting cover duo with Aqib Talib.
    14. Seahawks - Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa
      Pete Carroll came in and shuffled the defensive end position around, but there isn’t one player to truly count on on every snap yet. Clayborn can get after the QB and stop the run, and that all around ability will make him attractive on draft day.
    15. Chargers - Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pitt
      This is based on the assumption that Vincent Jackson will not be in a Charger uniform next season. Baldwin has similar skills to step into the offense and keep that unit at the top of their game.
    16. Vikings - Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
      The Vikings may have no choice but to take a QB in the first round next season. It’s doubtful that Favre has much left in the tank after the season, and finding a new long term QB will be priority #1 in the off season.
    17. Cowboys - Rahim Moore, S, UCLA
      Moore is a true ball hawk from the free safety position, and is a game changer. He would lock down the position for the next ten years in Dallas.
    18. Chiefs - Antony Castonzo, OT, Boston College
      Matt Cassel could use another weapon out wide, but the value may not be there at this spot. Giving him more protection and time to find the weapons he does have is the next best option.
    19. Eagles - Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia
      Upgrading the interior offensive line will be a priority, but at this spot, it’s a bit early for Rodney Hudson. Corner may draw just as much attention, and Dowling would be a good pick up at this point.
    20. Titans - Shareece Wright, CB, USC
      It’s not often that a starter for USC flies under the radar, but Wright has. After missing most of his first three seasons due to injuries and academic issues, Wright is making up for it right now. Wright has the skills to be an all around playmaker at corner, and is a name to remember come draft day.
    21. Bengals - Jurrell Casey, DT, USC
      Casey is the next great Trojan interior lineman, following in the footsteps of Mike Patterson and Sedrick Ellis. Casey has some similarities to Ellis, who the Bengals were all over in 2008.
    22. Dolphins - Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre Dame
      Brandon Marshall and Devone Bess are very good targets for Chad Henne, but another big body over the middle of the field would do wonders for the passing game. Once in the red zone, Miami would be hard to stop with their running game and targets like Marshall and Rudolph.
    23. Patriots - Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama
      Ingram isn’t a big time playmaker, but with the weapons in the passing game for the Patriots, they don’t need one. His ability to pick up consistent, tough yardage while bouncing one outside on occasion would be a good fit in the NE offense.
    24. Texans - Aaron Williams, CB, Texas
      Even though Kareem Jackson was last years top pick, you really cannot have enough cover men in the secondary. Safety is the biggest position of need, but with Rahim Moore gone there may not be a safety worthy of this selection.
    25. Ravens - Akeem Ayers, LB, UCLA
      Sergio Kindle was selected last season, but a freak accident has left his future in doubt. Ayers is simply too good of a talent to pass up at this spot. He brings a lot of versatility to the table and can impact the game in a lot of ways.
    26. Jets - Marvin Austin, DL, North Carolina
      While not the best fit in a 3-4 alignment, Austin does have the tools to play there. His type of impact physical ability is something the Jets will crave, enough that they will over look the questions about his production and work ethic.
    27. Bears - Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi St.
      Nabbing a wideout like Michael Floyd would be very tempting here, but the protection for Cutler and help opening up running lanes has to take priority.
    28. Falcons - Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue
      Kerrigan may not be a true physical specimen, but he wreaks havoc in the opponents backfield. He can get up the field and pressure the quarterback, but also shows the ability to take on blocks and awareness to make plays in the running game.
    29. Packers - Brandon Harris, CB, Miami
      The team was unable to add some youth to the corner position last year, but it will be a priority in April. Harris is a part of an extremely deep corner class and the Pack will take advantage of that.
    30. Colts - Stephen Paea, DT, Arizona St.
      The interior defensive line has been a problem for the Colts for years, and they seem to look outside the first round for help. It’s time they use their top pick to fill this hole.
    31. Saints - DaQuan Bowers, DE, Clemson
      Bowers was an elite recruit that is still coming into his own. He’s off to a fast start this year, and if he does reach his potential, he could be long gone come this pick.
    32. Steelers - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
      Carimi’s toughness and mean streak would fit very well in Pittsburgh, and give them a rock solid offensive tackle for the next ten years.

     


     
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    Wow.  I would be very pleased with that first round.  I see both guys as top 10 picks although Ingram didn't show it in the first half today and Heyward got hurt and left the game after it was a blow out.
     
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    I like Heyward but I'm starting to fall in love with Bailey. Bailey has all the things that we loved about Seymour and did I mention he's from the U. We know what BB thinks of U players.

    If Ingram falls that far I wouldn't mind taking a shot at him but at the same time I'd love to have Pouncey at G/C.

    Then again they don't have Pouncey taken in this draft and we might be able to grab him with Car's 2nd.

    My ideal draft right now is:

    Oak 1st: DE Bailey
    Our 1st: G/C Pouncey
    Car 2nd: DE/OLB Beal if available otherwise OLB Herzlich
    Our 2nd: RT Brewer
    Vik 3rd: RB Allen
    Our 3rd: G/C Boren
     
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    [QUOTE]hopefully this draft comes true because i would be very happy! heyward and ingram would be awesome, all we would need for the rest of the rounds would be C/OG, OLB, and a DB. I we would be able to bring in a few good FA's such as steven jackson or Chinedum Ndukwe DB (Bengals) we would be set. http://www.footballsfuture.com/2011/nflmockdraft.html   By: Robert Davis | Updated: 10/6   Bills - Jake Locker, QB, Washington This debate on the top QB is going to last until draft day, but Locker is a clear cut above here. He still needs work, but he has the things you can’t teach - talent and leadership - to be a star at the next level. Lions - Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU Peterson is the type of shut down corner every team dreams of having. The size, the athleticism, and playmaking ability to match up with any receiver in the NFL. Browns - Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina Quinn has a lot to prove once he gets back on the field, but he has the potential to go here. He would address the need for a top tier pass rusher in the front seven for the Browns, and could be a true force off the edge. Panthers - Marcel Dareus, DT, Alabama The offense has struggled so far, but there is quite a bit of talent that should develop over the course of the season, allowing Carolina to address the defense. Dareus would plug a major hole on the defensive line, which has taken some big hits recently with player defections. Patriots(Raiders) - Cameron Heyward, DL, Ohio St. A once feared defensive unit has struggled the past few seasons. A lack of a consistent pass rush is the biggest culprit, but help along the line is also up there. Heyward is a great fit as a 3-4 end, and his availability would make it hard for Bill Belichick to pass on. <img src="http://b.scorecardresearch.com/p?c1=8&c2=2102&c3=315&c4=&c5=&c6=&c15=996&c16=CNAG1%2cAYRB1%2cAMQU3%2cAMQU2%2cFACO1&cv=2.0&cj=1" mce_src="http://b.scorecardresearch.com/p?c1=8&c2=2102&c3=315&c4=&c5=&c6=&c15=996&c16=CNAG1%2cAYRB1%2cAMQU3%2cAMQU2%2cFACO1&cv=2.0&cj=1" /> Rams - AJ Green, WR, Georgia Green is part of a cast of top prospects that have been suspended to start the season, but once he gets going, his talent will prove worthy of this selection. The Rams have gotten a QB and a left tackle in the past two drafts, now it’s time to find a go to receiver to complete the offensive overhaul. Jaguars - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford There was a lot of talk about the Jags looking for a QB last year, namely Tim Tebow, but they were handuffed with a lack of picks and pressing needs elsewhere. QB may be just as pressing a need as any spot, and if Luck is on the board, do not expect him to last any longer. 49ers - Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska Adding some more talent to the corner position was under consideration last April, so it will definitely be near the top of the list this time around. Amukamara will battle Peterson all year for the right to be the top corner taken off the board. Giants - Nate Solder, OT, Colorado This is a bit of a projection pick, but expect to continue to hear more about Solder as the draft gets closer. His athleticism and mobility is exactly what teams crave at the tackle position, and he could be the top tackle taken when all is said and done. Broncos - Allen Bailey, DL, Miami Some more talent up front is a need for every team attempting build a successful 3-4 defense. Bailey has played all over in a 3-4 but has the skills to project to a 3-4 scheme as an end.   Cardinals - Bruce Carter, LB, North Carolina Carter is a guy who could vault up the boards in the post season. While not as big overall as Karlos Dansby, he could project as the same type of versatile playmaker from the linebacker position. A tackle or QB will draw a lot of consideration in the draft, especially if they are drafting higher. Redskins - Julio Jones, WR, Alabama Jones’ size and playmaking ability would give McNabb the best wide out he has thrown to since Terrell Owens. Buccaneers - Janoris Jenkins, CB, Florida A tackle will draw a lot of consideration here to help keep Josh Freeman upright, but a top flight corner would be tough to pass on at this point. Jenkins could form an exciting cover duo with Aqib Talib. Seahawks - Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa Pete Carroll came in and shuffled the defensive end position around, but there isn’t one player to truly count on on every snap yet. Clayborn can get after the QB and stop the run, and that all around ability will make him attractive on draft day. Chargers - Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pitt This is based on the assumption that Vincent Jackson will not be in a Charger uniform next season. Baldwin has similar skills to step into the offense and keep that unit at the top of their game. Vikings - Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas The Vikings may have no choice but to take a QB in the first round next season. It’s doubtful that Favre has much left in the tank after the season, and finding a new long term QB will be priority #1 in the off season. Cowboys - Rahim Moore, S, UCLA Moore is a true ball hawk from the free safety position, and is a game changer. He would lock down the position for the next ten years in Dallas. Chiefs - Antony Castonzo, OT, Boston College Matt Cassel could use another weapon out wide, but the value may not be there at this spot. Giving him more protection and time to find the weapons he does have is the next best option. Eagles - Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia Upgrading the interior offensive line will be a priority, but at this spot, it’s a bit early for Rodney Hudson. Corner may draw just as much attention, and Dowling would be a good pick up at this point. Titans - Shareece Wright, CB, USC It’s not often that a starter for USC flies under the radar, but Wright has. After missing most of his first three seasons due to injuries and academic issues, Wright is making up for it right now. Wright has the skills to be an all around playmaker at corner, and is a name to remember come draft day. Bengals - Jurrell Casey, DT, USC Casey is the next great Trojan interior lineman, following in the footsteps of Mike Patterson and Sedrick Ellis. Casey has some similarities to Ellis, who the Bengals were all over in 2008. Dolphins - Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre Dame Brandon Marshall and Devone Bess are very good targets for Chad Henne, but another big body over the middle of the field would do wonders for the passing game. Once in the red zone, Miami would be hard to stop with their running game and targets like Marshall and Rudolph. Patriots - Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama Ingram isn’t a big time playmaker, but with the weapons in the passing game for the Patriots, they don’t need one. His ability to pick up consistent, tough yardage while bouncing one outside on occasion would be a good fit in the NE offense. Texans - Aaron Williams, CB, Texas Even though Kareem Jackson was last years top pick, you really cannot have enough cover men in the secondary. Safety is the biggest position of need, but with Rahim Moore gone there may not be a safety worthy of this selection. Ravens - Akeem Ayers, LB, UCLA Sergio Kindle was selected last season, but a freak accident has left his future in doubt. Ayers is simply too good of a talent to pass up at this spot. He brings a lot of versatility to the table and can impact the game in a lot of ways. Jets - Marvin Austin, DL, North Carolina While not the best fit in a 3-4 alignment, Austin does have the tools to play there. His type of impact physical ability is something the Jets will crave, enough that they will over look the questions about his production and work ethic. Bears - Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi St. Nabbing a wideout like Michael Floyd would be very tempting here, but the protection for Cutler and help opening up running lanes has to take priority. Falcons - Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue Kerrigan may not be a true physical specimen, but he wreaks havoc in the opponents backfield. He can get up the field and pressure the quarterback, but also shows the ability to take on blocks and awareness to make plays in the running game. Packers - Brandon Harris, CB, Miami The team was unable to add some youth to the corner position last year, but it will be a priority in April. Harris is a part of an extremely deep corner class and the Pack will take advantage of that. Colts - Stephen Paea, DT, Arizona St. The interior defensive line has been a problem for the Colts for years, and they seem to look outside the first round for help. It’s time they use their top pick to fill this hole. Saints - DaQuan Bowers, DE, Clemson Bowers was an elite recruit that is still coming into his own. He’s off to a fast start this year, and if he does reach his potential, he could be long gone come this pick. Steelers - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin Carimi’s toughness and mean streak would fit very well in Pittsburgh, and give them a rock solid offensive tackle for the next ten years.  
    Posted by natesubs[/QUOTE]

         That would be a horrible draft for the Patriots. I'd take Bailey or Luck (by far the best QB available...how many chances do you have to draft a franchise QB, and groom him behind Brady) over Heyward, though I could live with a Heyward pick. But, I'd disown the Pats if they took Ingram...especially with Ayers available. Ingram is damaged goods (has had knee surgery). Plus, didn't you learn anything from the 2006 draft, when the Pats took Laurence Maroney with the 21st overall pick?  
     
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    I got us picking with the #32 pick not the #23,
     
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    Who cares about the draft, enjoy the season. What the hell.
     
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    [QUOTE]Who cares about the draft, enjoy the season. What the hell.
    Posted by rpn123321[/QUOTE]

    its the bye week. doesn't bother me to what someone else thinks.
     
    why even make a post to it if you don't care?
     
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    [QUOTE]Who cares about the draft, enjoy the season. What the hell.
    Posted by rpn123321[/QUOTE]

    We need something to talk about during the bye week. So thinking about the talent we can get next year is well... fun. Kinda like buying a powerball ticket and imagining what you'd do if you won
     
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    [QUOTE]I got us picking with the #32 pick not the #23,
    Posted by kansaspatriot[/QUOTE]

    BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Patseng,

    I would be please with that draft too. 

    I agree with Tex. Ingram is pretty thin in the treads, and I honestly think Richardson could be better. A WR or OLB would be better there. 

    I would, however, never draft a #4 QB with Brady under contract. The salary structure in the NFL makes that simply crippling. Beyond that, NE needs to land a difference maker on the line. 

    Plus from a several angles, Heyward is a very good fit ... character, size, experience, etcetera...
     
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    [QUOTE]Patseng, I would be please with that draft too.  I agree with Tex. Ingram is pretty thin in the treads, and I honestly think Richardson could be better. A WR or OLB would be better there.  I would, however, never draft a #4 QB with Brady under contract. The salary structure in the NFL makes that simply crippling. Beyond that, NE needs to land a difference maker on the line.  Plus from a several angles, Heyward is a very good fit ... character, size, experience, etcetera...
    Posted by zbellino[/QUOTE]

         The salary structure won't be a problem anymore, Z. There will be a rookie wage scale implemented in 2011. That's why the Pats insisted that the Raiders trade them their #1 pick in 2011, instead of 2010, for Seymour.
     
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    Heyward's mom, Charlotte, used to be a client of mine so I know the family very well. It'd be neat to see him play for my favorite team.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: amazing mock draft :      The salary structure won't be a problem anymore, Z. There will be a rookie wage scale implemented in 2011. That's why the Pats insisted that the Raiders trade them their #1 pick in 2011, instead of 2010, for Seymour.
    Posted by TexasPat3[/QUOTE]

    Not at first it won't Tex, but Brady is now signed through 2014.  Why spend a premium pick on a franchise QB that you plan to sit for 4 years?  That's still an expensive insurance policy, plus we could be taking an impact player at another position that can help us now. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Patseng, I would be please with that draft too.  I agree with Tex. Ingram is pretty thin in the treads, and I honestly think Richardson could be better. A WR or OLB would be better there.  I would, however, never draft a #4 QB with Brady under contract. The salary structure in the NFL makes that simply crippling. Beyond that, NE needs to land a difference maker on the line.  Plus from a several angles, Heyward is a very good fit ... character, size, experience, etcetera...
    Posted by zbellino[/QUOTE]
    Bailey would be good too.  I would be happy with either.  After all it is the Seymour pick we'd be using here. 

    I like Ingram and I here what you are saying about the tread but a lot of RBs are pretty beaten up coming out of college and still went on to long careers.  Curtis Martin had knee surgery and missed his senior year and we picked him up in the third round.  He was hardly ever hurt again until late in his career.  Really I'm playing devil's advocate because I don't think BB will take a RB in the first round again.  I would be upset if we took Ingram over Ayers.  I didn't really pay attention to who every one else was taking in the mock here.  If Ayers is still on the board with our pick we need to be all over him.

    DE and OLB are positions where I don't see a young player on the team showing the potential to be dominate.  Brace or Deaderick may emerge but its a big maybe.  We have nothing at outside LB. 
     
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    Texas. I actually like the way Hoyer looks. He's seems to be taking the coaching really well and looks cool and collected under pressure in the pocket. I know he went undrafted but I can imagine him being a better then average QB and might have the potential to becoming a fanchise QB with 4 more years under his belt. I'd rather spend a high pick on the DL and shore it up and wait 2 years to see how Hoye progresses. In 2 years we could try to find a Rogers type QB. One not ready to start but after a couple years of seasoning would be decent replacement in the late 1st round area
     
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    this is at least 3 years too soon to be drafting a QB early. it's one thing to take a guy in the mid or late rounds to groom as a backup. It's another to draft a first or second rounder who would not see the field for this team during his rookie contract.
     
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    [QUOTE]Who cares about the draft, enjoy the season. What the hell.
    Posted by rpn123321[/QUOTE]
    these posts are now getting far too close to trolling. we'll talk about what we want.
     
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    TP,

    Yeah it will not be as onerous. Yet, I think you can still expect some good paychecks. And then sitting for four seasons is rough. By the time the kid gets reps, you are busy negotiating his second deal. 

    I am actually not against the strategy. But I think taking an Aaron Rodgers approach in 2012 or 2013 might be better. Grab someone who is a bit raw at the bottom of the first and groom them for two to three seasons. That way you have a way better idea of what you have gotten, and you haven't spent a large contract up to that date.

    I am actually really surprised that you would think that way. I figured you would be all about grabbing an elite 3-5 tech type DE. They are safer picks, and having the next Seymour or Mario Williams would instantly change this defense. 
     
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    The Lions won't get the second pick in the draft.  That will go to the Raiders, who traded it to the Patriots, who traded it for the fifth pick in the draft plus a high second rounder.
     
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    [QUOTE]The Lions won't get the second pick in the draft.  That will go to the Raiders, who traded it to the Patriots, who traded it for the fifth pick in the draft plus a high second rounder.
    Posted by Paul_K[/QUOTE]

    If the Pats get the 2nd pick in the draft and have a chance to trade while remaining in the top 10 and grab a top 10 2nd too I'd be giddy. I just want a DL guy and thee's at least 4 on my list. We could grab any one of the 4 in the top ten so getting a high 2nd too would be heaven
     
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    nate and ALL:

    NFL Draft=I've stated it before, BETTER than the Superbowl for some of us...including me.  In regards to nates mock offered above, and at least also in terms, of the positional targeting I'd ideally want NE to focus on #1 and #2 (figuring the draft falls correctly for the pats; i.e. a perfect world)-THIS 2011 Mock Draft has nailed it...at least positionally, that is....

    New England ABSOLUTELY NEEDS a good 3-4 DE, And with so many more teams transitioning to 3-4 D's and considering that there, for some reason, seems to be a lack of 6'4-6'6 285-300lb, Impact Collegiate NFL Prospects with pass-rush repetoires, strength to stand their ground vs the run, And the intelligence and selflessness to do all this and be successful against not 1, but 2 pro NFL O-lineman on every play, without complaint and in a defensive front that offers infinitely less stats, highlights, and glamour...but it's infinitely far tougher....Again, for some strange reason, These guys that just "might" even nominally become even a somewhat decent 3-4 DE, have gone earlier and earlier and earlier in each and every draft class...  Ya don't gots a Top 10-maybe 15 selection=You're outta the running.  And The Patriots NEVER ever do...until this year.

    BUT here's my prob...I honestly, Don't like ANY of these Top 3-4 DEs in this '11 Class.  I liked (somewhat), Nebraska's Jared Crick...but he's shown that life without Suh anchoring the other side of his D-Line, ain't quite as fun...nor even close to as remotely successful for himself.  SEE, I trully NEED my 3-4 DE at the very least 6'4...I'd LIKE him very much so, to be 6'5-6'6 and 290 or thereabouts...  I KNOW this sounds extremely presumptuous, and I honestly have seen next to nothing in terms of filmwork on Dareus, but I don't want a guy @ 6'3 306lbs.  Irregardless, big chance he'll be 3-4 DE #1, Top 3 selection....and gone before NE chooses.  Miami's Allen Bailey=Would be my unhappy Choice #1, for 3-4 DEs that will be available for NE.  6'4 288lbs, EXTREMELY athletic and talented, UTTERLY inconsistant collegiate career thus far (until his draft year, of course)=Yippee!  Cameron Heyward, PERFECTion under my size and physical criterion @ 6'6 and 287lbs, but SEVERAL scouting reports say that he's not just inconsistant also, but "Extremely Soft" as well.  Don't know enough about Arizona State's Lawrence Guy (1 year wonder?)...  Too hiogh anyway, and far too high for another even more mediocre 3-4 DE, further down the list of prospects.

    I want...No, I NEED NE to nab a good 3-4 DE...but I ain't sold on single one'of 'em?????  As it stands, as of Right Now, I'd much rather have a true superb left/right OT (depending on Vollmer), And even far moreso, Pittsburgh's WR Jonathen Baldwin=6'5 225lbs, Big possessional target with excellent hands and size, already successfully playing with good stats up here in the NE in the cold weather.  Projected Top 15 selection, behind AJ Green=And with Moss gone, even IF he's not the burner Moss was=Still a far better pick than a 3-4 DE that I NEED to be sold on yet...but ain't...

    Same goes for Ingram....but that's another story.

    BTW, any of the other Draft-nuts got any inside info on up-and-comer Illinois RB, Mikel Lishoure=6'1 228lbs...power and speed, translating as I've said again and again=A bigger RB being far more successful in NE's smaller, agile (built for passing), zone-blocking scheme, with between the tackle abilities to keep spear-heading 4-3 DDTs towards Brady, far more honest in their gap-shooting without any interior RB big threat (see Maroney).  ANY info on this Lishoure guy would be appreciated...
     
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    Yes we need a stud 34 DE.  There are a couple of guys who fit the mold, Heyward and Bailey come to mind.  But can anyone argue our biggest need is at OLB?  We have Banta-Cain (2003-7th), Ninkovich (2005-5th NO), Crable (2008-3) and Fletcher (2010 UDRFA). 

    If Akeem Ayers comes out we need to be all over him.  OLB is his natural position and he has the measurables (6-4, 254, 4.68) we look for in the position.  He's a natural pass rusher with speed to cover.  I'm hoping he'll be there with our pick in the first but by draft day he could be a top 10 pick. 

     
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    Add to the fact that Mankins will most likely bring another pick and Tye Warren (and Bodden) will beback.
     
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    If the patriots draft in the 5th spot in the draft and don't take AJ Green I'll be disappointed.
     
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    Laz - I like your prospect prespective but I tink you are selling Bailey a bit short. Yes Bailey's play has been inconsistent until recently but at the same time look at the D he's been on the last couple years. His inconsistent play (I would argue) is the coaching staff covering his weaknesses allowing players like Cunningham and Spikes to make up for it. Now that he's the man he might finally be getting the coaching he's need. That he's getting more consistent and is looking like a better all around player is a good sign to me. It at least shows he has the ability to learn and be coached through his mistakes.

    Another DE to keep your eye on as a top 5 pick is Adrian Clayborn. He's showing some great promise. He's just shy of 6'4" but not by much. The only concerns are his strength and a situation involving an arrest for assualt. The weightroom can fix one issue but BB can determine whether his character would be a determint.

    As for Mikel Lishoure I haven't heard to much about him. He has a high ypc average but is very low on TD's. I'd expect him to go mid to late in the draft. I'll keep my ears open though.

    I like you want a large back with quick legs. If next season we go in with Faulk, Woodhead, and BJGE as a core I wouldn't mind provided we have a strong bruising back that can get short yardage when needed. A couple names to keep an eye on are Anthony Allen out of Georgia Tech and Vai Taua out of Neveda
     

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