Amendola The worst signing by the Pats, considering the cost, ever

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    Amendola The worst signing by the Pats, considering the cost, ever

    When they signed the injury proned Danny A as a free agent, I thought they had rocks in their collective heads. I wonder whose idea it was by the way. BB must have had imput, for sure. Which begs the question, did who ever wanted Danny look at his profile? Or was it a hissy fit because they knew they were letting Welker go.

    What a collosell flop Amendola has been, even when he's on the field , he can't catch the football. Oh well, you win some, you lose some, and some get rained out. Danny Boy falls into the later two. He got the money though, so he's smarter than the stiff who wanted him.

     
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    this siging hurt Belicheck.

     
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    I agree but I can't fault BB - I really thought that DA would flourish in this offense? He was pretty good when in ST Louis-what happened-maybe there is something to BB type players-my only explanation is Brady is a timing QB and maybe some players don't fare well in such an offense? I'm lost I thought he was gonna be money yet it turns out to be monopoly money!

     
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    off topic...

    are we cap hell?

    with the Hernandez situation and a few bust like Talib, do we have enough money to get a player from Free agency?

    A user told me that we don't have enough draft picks. I don't pay attention to the draft/college that much.

     
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    I agree but I can't fault BB - I really thought that DA would flourish in this offense? He was pretty good when in ST Louis-what happened-maybe there is something to BB type players-my only explanation is Brady is a timing QB and maybe some players don't fare well in such an offense? I'm lost I thought he was gonna be money yet it turns out to be monopoly money!

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    I can fault BB. He listened to McDaniels who had Amendola in St. Louis. McD = Overated!

     
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    Amendola should be kissing BB feet, he made him rich for absolutely nothing!

     
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    Another in a long long long long list of poor decisions by the GM.

     
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    I had Amendola playing a huge game for us and being one of the difference makers.

     
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    We traded the Patterson pick away for picks that produced Collins, Ryan, and Boyce, plus a seventh round pick that was eventually part of the Blount deal.  Now I like Collins and Ryan, but I think we could have gotten them in other ways, and really, don't we desperately need a top-quality bigger, faster WR? We had one right there in the draft, but let him walk so we could go fishing for depth in late rounds.  At some point, we need impact players.  Value and depth are great things, but ultimately, talent wins championships and we need some of that too.

     

    Cordarrelle Patterson to Pro Bowl Updated: January 3, 2014, 11:42 AM ET ESPN.com news services

    Minnesota Vikings rookie Cordarrelle Patterson has been added to the Pro Bowl as a return specialist, the team announced Friday.

     

    Patterson Patterson

     

    Patterson will replace the Steelers' Antonio Brown, who was voted to the game at two different positions. Brown, however, will still play wide receiver, as he got more votes at that position.

    Patterson is a candidate for offensive rookie of the year after becoming the first NFL player to record four receiving, three rushing and two kick returns in a season. He added 469 receiving yards and 158 rushing yards. He also averaged 32.4 yards per kickoff return, third highest in league history since the 1970 merger.

    The game will be played Jan. 26.

     
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    It's an absolute bust so far - Amendola was not good at all.

    But there is one lingering issue - the guy had a severe groin injury at the start of the season.  There was talk that he needed season ending groin surgery and HE went out got a second opinion and played hurt.

    That is probably the reason why he never got separation.

    When he played in St Louis he was extremely difficult to cover.

    He may end up panning out next year.  If the Patriots don't cut him.

     
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    Re: Amendola The worst signing by the Pats, considering the cost, ever

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    We traded the Patterson pick away for picks that produced Collins, Ryan, and Boyce, plus a seventh round pick that was eventually part of the Blount deal.  Now I like Collins and Ryan, but I think we could have gotten them in other ways, and really, don't we desperately need a top-quality bigger, faster WR? We had one right there in the draft, but let him walk so we could go fishing for depth in late rounds.  At some point, we need impact players.  Value and depth are great things, but ultimately, talent wins championships and we need some of that too.

     

    Cordarrelle Patterson to Pro Bowl Updated: January 3, 2014, 11:42 AM ET ESPN.com news services

    Minnesota Vikings rookie Cordarrelle Patterson has been added to the Pro Bowl as a return specialist, the team announced Friday.

     

    Patterson Patterson

     

    Patterson will replace the Steelers' Antonio Brown, who was voted to the game at two different positions. Brown, however, will still play wide receiver, as he got more votes at that position.

    Patterson is a candidate for offensive rookie of the year after becoming the first NFL player to record four receiving, three rushing and two kick returns in a season. He added 469 receiving yards and 158 rushing yards. He also averaged 32.4 yards per kickoff return, third highest in league history since the 1970 merger.

    The game will be played Jan. 26.

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    Pats draft value, not talent.

     
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    Amendola TORE his groin in week one.  Most of his critics would curl up and cry for 72 hours.

    Instead he went out and played the 2d half in Buffalo with a completely TORN groin and caught 5 passes - including huge catches.

    Then - he skipped surgery and came back way earlier than expected.

    He obviously played hurt all season and couldn't get the separation he is known for.  try doing sharp cuts with a TORN groin sometime.

     

     

     

     
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    We traded the Patterson pick away for picks that produced Collins, Ryan, and Boyce, plus a seventh round pick that was eventually part of the Blount deal.  Now I like Collins and Ryan, but I think we could have gotten them in other ways, and really, don't we desperately need a top-quality bigger, faster WR? We had one right there in the draft, but let him walk so we could go fishing for depth in late rounds.  At some point, we need impact players.  Value and depth are great things, but ultimately, talent wins championships and we need some of that too.

     

    Cordarrelle Patterson to Pro Bowl Updated: January 3, 2014, 11:42 AM ET ESPN.com news services

    Minnesota Vikings rookie Cordarrelle Patterson has been added to the Pro Bowl as a return specialist, the team announced Friday.

     

    Patterson Patterson

     

    Patterson will replace the Steelers' Antonio Brown, who was voted to the game at two different positions. Brown, however, will still play wide receiver, as he got more votes at that position.

    Patterson is a candidate for offensive rookie of the year after becoming the first NFL player to record four receiving, three rushing and two kick returns in a season. He added 469 receiving yards and 158 rushing yards. He also averaged 32.4 yards per kickoff return, third highest in league history since the 1970 merger.

    The game will be played Jan. 26.

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    Pats draft value, not talent.

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    There is no value without talent.

     
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    Amendola TORE his groin in week one.  Most of his critics would curl up and cry for 72 hours.

    Instead he went out and played the 2d half in Buffalo with a completely TORN groin and caught 5 passes - including huge catches.

    Then - he skipped surgery and came back way earlier than expected.

    He obviously played hurt all season and couldn't get the separation he is known for.  try doing sharp cuts with a TORN groin sometime.

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    Thanks for the caps there.  It really makes it okay now.

     
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    Amendola TORE his groin in week one.  Most of his critics would curl up and cry for 72 hours.

    Instead he went out and played the 2d half in Buffalo with a completely TORN groin and caught 5 passes - including huge catches.

    Then - he skipped surgery and came back way earlier than expected.

    He obviously played hurt all season and couldn't get the separation he is known for.  try doing sharp cuts with a TORN groin sometime.

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    Thanks for the caps there.  It really makes it okay now.

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    Just trying to get you to see through your big, droppy tears.

     
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    LOL! I remember the arguments you had with rusty on this and you were right all along.

     
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    We traded the Patterson pick away for picks that produced Collins, Ryan, and Boyce, plus a seventh round pick that was eventually part of the Blount deal.

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    Collins:  One great game

    Ryan:  Burned so badly yesterday

    Boyce:  LOL

    Blount:  Nothing doing against a team expecting him

    But, you know, it's okay.  The Pats don't need recievers.  They've got Austin Collie and Mulligan.  Life is good.

     
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    Re: Amendola The worst signing by the Pats, considering the cost, ever

    we could have kept brandon Lloyd for about 3m half of amendola salary ,

    would have brandon Lloyd caught more passes all season long and in the AFCCG

    for sure , BB FA moves this offseason has be pretty average .

    1.8M for wilson must be the stupidiest thing he ever did

     
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    It's an absolute bust so far - Amendola was not good at all.

    But there is one lingering issue - the guy had a severe groin injury at the start of the season.  There was talk that he needed season ending groin surgery and HE went out got a second opinion and played hurt.

    That is probably the reason why he never got separation.

    When he played in St Louis he was extremely difficult to cover.

    He may end up panning out next year.  If the Patriots don't cut him.

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    Well here's the problem with that...he is the most injury prone player in football, that is the very reason...the very core of why he should never of been signed in the first place.

    The warnings were out on him and what did he do?? He got hurt on the very first quarter of the first game of the season! He then proceeded to do virtually nothing the rest of the season...Brandon Lloyd would of done more. That's pretty sad.

    If we could save one single penny on releasing him I'd do it. He is just going to get hurt again, it may not happen in the first game, but it will happen.

    We already have enough guys like him on the roster - guys we can't count on - Talib, Gronk, Vollmer and more.

     
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    But, you know, it's okay.  The Pats don't need recievers.  They've got Austin Collie and Mulligan.  Life is good.

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    They had great recievers:  Gronk and Hernandez.  They also had Edelman, Amendola + 3 rookies.

    You think they should have added more to that?  Maybe they should sign 8 WRs this off season?

    Crime and injury screwed them. 

    Tell me - who were they supposed to pick up in September?  Were their all pro WRs available?

    Your bawling is understandable - you are emotional.  But instead of repeating your yoga mantra "we need a WR" - why don;t you explain how and why a team that had Gronk and Hernandez locked up with huge contracts would pay for #1 WRs?  They had already signed Amendola to save money.

    What exactly did you expect?  The team with ytwo all pro 23 year old TEs and two excellent slot recievers and 3 rookie WRs to go out and sign more?

    Idiotic.

     

     

     
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    Well here's the problem with that...he is the most injury prone player in football, that is the very reason...the very core of why he should never of been signed in the first place.

    The warnings were out on him and what did he do?? He got hurt on the very first quarter of the first game of the season!

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    This is a legit criticism.  His injury history is not good.  Of course he was signed to be the #3 option in the offense.  Don't forget that.

    Had Gronk and Hernandez played, Amendola would have sat out months after tearing the groin.

    Then maybe at 100% he performs better in AFCCG.

    The guy was not healthy all year - that is both a defense and an indictment.

     
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    But, you know, it's okay.  The Pats don't need recievers.  They've got Austin Collie and Mulligan.  Life is good.

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    +1

    They had great recievers:  Gronk and Hernandez.  They also had Edelman, Amendola + 3 rookies.

    You think they should have added more to that?  Maybe they should sign 8 WRs this off season?

    Crime and injury screwed them. 

    Tell me - who were they supposed to pick up in September?  Were their all pro WRs available?

    Your bawling is understandable - you are emotional.  But instead of repeating your yoga mantra "we need a WR" - why don;t you explain how and why a team that had Gronk and Hernandez locked up with huge contracts would pay for #1 WRs?  They had already signed Amendola to save money.

    What exactly did you expect?  The team with ytwo all pro 23 year old TEs and two excellent slot recievers and 3 rookie WRs to go out and sign more?

    Idiotic.

     

     

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    They had great recievers:  Gronk and Hernandez.  They also had Edelman, Amendola + 3 rookies.

    You think they should have added more to that?  Maybe they should sign 8 WRs this off season?

    Crime and injury screwed them. 

    Tell me - who were they supposed to pick up in September?  Were their all pro WRs available?

    Your bawling is understandable - you are emotional.  But instead of repeating your yoga mantra "we need a WR" - why don;t you explain how and why a team that had Gronk and Hernandez locked up with huge contracts would pay for #1 WRs?  They had already signed Amendola to save money.

    What exactly did you expect?  The team with ytwo all pro 23 year old TEs and two excellent slot recievers and 3 rookie WRs to go out and sign more?

    Idiotic.

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    I expect the Greatest GM of All Time to know a little about the character of the guys he's drafting and giving long term contracts to.

    I expect him to refrain from giving long term contracts to major injury risks.

    I expect him to sign quality guys he has to contracts instead of going out and signing injury risks from other teams.

    I expect him to draft ONE, ONE, ONE, ONE...JUST FRICKKIN' ONE quality wide recevier in a decade.

    I expect him to look at his lineup and say, "Let's see, we have Gronk who is always hurt, Hernandez, who is a frigggin' punk, and three rookies.  This is a problem.  I should sign or trade for a wide receiver who has a proven track record of success."

     

     
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    In response to Schumpeters-Ghost's comment:
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    But, you know, it's okay.  The Pats don't need recievers.  They've got Austin Collie and Mulligan.  Life is good.

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    They had great recievers:  Gronk and Hernandez.  They also had Edelman, Amendola + 3 rookies.

    You think they should have added more to that?  Maybe they should sign 8 WRs this off season?

    Crime and injury screwed them. 

    Tell me - who were they supposed to pick up in September?  Were their all pro WRs available?

    Your bawling is understandable - you are emotional.  But instead of repeating your yoga mantra "we need a WR" - why don;t you explain how and why a team that had Gronk and Hernandez locked up with huge contracts would pay for #1 WRs?  They had already signed Amendola to save money.

    What exactly did you expect?  The team with ytwo all pro 23 year old TEs and two excellent slot recievers and 3 rookie WRs to go out and sign more?

    Idiotic.

     

     

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    They had two great TEs.  WRs, not so much. The fact is the Pats haven't invested enough in WRs since Moss was let go.  They've needed a decent non-slot receiver since 2010 (and Moss's decline was starting to show in 2009).  Why hasn't that position been addressed in a serious way four seasons later?  Branch, Stallworth, Lloyd all were stop-gap measures.  Dobson was a bit of longshot.  

    Sure, the two TE offense looked great if both TEs stayed on the field.  Lose one, though, and we're no better than other teams with one good receiving TE--but we don't have any WRs other than slots.  

    This would all be fine if we had a defense like Seattle's or San Francisco's but we don't.  We need an offense that can score.  We can't do that with a middling running game and with a receiving group who's best target is Julian Edelman. 

     

     

     

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