Amendola's Injury Question

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    I've had a pulled groin muscle when I played ball.  Many, many years ago.

    First off,  I was not a world class athlete.  If you're playing in the NFL then I would characterize you as such.

    Secondly, I didn't get the medical attention, therapy and rehab that these players get.

    So, there is no comparison to when someone like you or I had a similar type injury and a professional athlete such as DA.

    We don't even know what he really has.  Small tear/tears in the adductor?  Sports hernia?  Pulled groin?  One, two or all three of these? What does it matter?  He'll be back when he's ready and he will contribute when he is.

    Give the kid a break.

    Too many people here I think are just rooting against this guy just so they can say, "I told you so."

     



    Thank You.   Every time we hear about a pro athlete getting injured we get the chorus of   "I had the same thing in Pop Warner, High School, etc".    Apples and oranges.

     

     
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    and his 1st game here and he already got another one. Seems he has a better Qb here and We can expect better numbers. No matter how much you hate this move, it wont bring Welkie back,. ijs. You are looking for reasons that he wont succeed here. That is being negative , sorry. Atleast root for the guy, yeeesh.

     

     



    Fair enough.  But no, I am not looking for reasons he won't succeed.  He provides enough reasons on his own.  Like I said many times before, I hope he catches the game winning TD's in the next 5 SB's and is MVP in a few of them.  When he was with the Rams I thought Amendola could be a good Welker type... his only problem was being able to stay on the field.  The Pats took a chance that was foolish, imo, and I was bashed here many times for saying so.  Yet, this is exactly the reason why I didn't like the decision and people are being silly with the excuses.  If it was another player, one who many people here didn't go out on a limb on with expectations, then my thoughts would be with the majority. 

     




    This is probably the 3rd time Ive seen you post these ridiculous expectations. So I just have one question. When the H3ll did Wes do any of that for us. Game winning catch in the next 5 SBs!?!??! Cmon man, you gotta come off that or people aint gonna take you serious. Lets move on bro. IF this guy doesnt catch 5 game winning SB catches a a few MVPs, its a bad signing. ReallY??

     
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    Too many people here I think are just rooting against this guy just so they can say, "I told you so."

     




    What?.... people are looking at things negatively here? NO WAY!!.... LOL

     



    Well, we just have to understand that these negative nellies are "realistic" fans who prefer to look at the team through ka ka colored glasses.   :)

     

     
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    and his 1st game here and he already got another one. Seems he has a better Qb here and We can expect better numbers. No matter how much you hate this move, it wont bring Welkie back,. ijs. You are looking for reasons that he wont succeed here. That is being negative , sorry. Atleast root for the guy, yeeesh.

     

     



    Fair enough.  But no, I am not looking for reasons he won't succeed.  He provides enough reasons on his own.  Like I said many times before, I hope he catches the game winning TD's in the next 5 SB's and is MVP in a few of them.  When he was with the Rams I thought Amendola could be a good Welker type... his only problem was being able to stay on the field.  The Pats took a chance that was foolish, imo, and I was bashed here many times for saying so.  Yet, this is exactly the reason why I didn't like the decision and people are being silly with the excuses.  If it was another player, one who many people here didn't go out on a limb on with expectations, then my thoughts would be with the majority. 

     

     

     




    This is probably the 3rd time Ive seen you post these ridiculous expectations. So I just have one question. When the H3ll did Wes do any of that for us. Game winning catch in the next 5 SBs!?!??! Cmon man, you gotta come off that or people aint gonna take you serious. Lets move on bro. IF this guy doesnt catch 5 game winning SB catches a a few MVPs, its a bad signing. ReallY??

     

     




    Apparently you missed the point... completely!!  My point is I have nothing against the guy, I actually have always liked what I seen when he is on the field, problem is he can't seem to stay on the field.  I want him to be able to help the team win a SB or two or five!  BUT to move from a dependable WR to an injure prone one was a bad idea, imo.  Many people jumped me with the opinion... I find it very silly, foolish, crazy to watch many here come up with all these excuses for the guy, the decision to go after him, downplay him being out.  Like I said, if so many people didn't jump on his band wagon the second he was signed everyone here would be stating everything I have been.  Looks like many are trying to save face here instead of thinking what is best for the team.  That is my point! 

     



    I didnt miss the point. I have gotten the point too much I believe. Most people here know how you feel at this time. MY point is wes aint coming back this year. YOu can root for the guy or B*tch all day and yes I used the word because you have been out of character like  a lot of others have noticed. Its an excersice in futility. YOU have set so high, ridiculous expectations that the guy will never live up to your standards provided by Wes Welker who was in an offense that NEVER WON A SB. The mere fact that he WAS the offense WAS the problem. EVEN with that said, BB and co still gave him the BEST offer he ever got and this Bum settled on 6 million after turning down 8. So MY point is BE mad at Welker. He made his bed and is laying in it. Are you a Pats fan or a Welker fan, cuz I cant tell. Im trying really hard not to believe that you are some fraud fan for living in San Fran and just covering the Pats since 07 like Rallyc said, but look at you. You have become unraveled and you dont even discuss football anymore. You just rag on Danny and Act like Wes is a god. We dont do that here. We move forward with the players THAT WANT TO BE HERE. WES LEFT FOR DENVER.

     

     
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    Re: Amendola's Injury Question

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    it appears that Amendolas body simply cant stand up to the rigors of the game. great, great player, seemingly his career will be shorted as his body fails him.

    has it ever been discussed here? Amnedola signing with the questions;

    -he seemingly signed with the PAts immediately. Either he really, really wanted to play here, or the Pats blew him way with an offer?

    -did he field any other offers, and if he did, anyone hear what those offers may have been?

    -his contract has protection for the PAts via a game bonus (he get $31,000 every game played), but the contract does not seem very cap wise at all...his back end cap hit is quite high. I simply cant see his body allowing him to play 5 years into his 32 years age year



    I mentioned all this when he signed. According to reports the Rams offer wasn't even half of what the Pats offered for far less years. I honestly think they took the contract they offered Welker, figured the difference in years between Welker and Amendola, added that to the contract, and then handed it to him. Which he couldn't wait to sign. I don't even think they thought about it because I've heard quotes from BB (specifically about the trading up for J Jones in Atl) that he does think some players are the same so why not give them the same money. I honestly believe BB took a look at Welker and Amendola, did what some do here, said those were freak injures, and just gave him the same contract he offered Welker without trying to find a better deal that no one was offering Amendola at the time.

     
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    No way he's out there going through the motions if there was a fear of him aggravating it further.

    I don't really get the need for over-analysis on this. He's out for a month and then they'll re-assess.



    This we don't know given the media only has access to stretching and warm up periods. He may simply be stretching then walking off the field to rehab. Or, it might be as you say.

     
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    and his 1st game here and he already got another one. Seems he has a better Qb here and We can expect better numbers. No matter how much you hate this move, it wont bring Welkie back,. ijs. You are looking for reasons that he wont succeed here. That is being negative , sorry. Atleast root for the guy, yeeesh.

     

     



    Fair enough.  But no, I am not looking for reasons he won't succeed.  He provides enough reasons on his own.  Like I said many times before, I hope he catches the game winning TD's in the next 5 SB's and is MVP in a few of them.  When he was with the Rams I thought Amendola could be a good Welker type... his only problem was being able to stay on the field.  The Pats took a chance that was foolish, imo, and I was bashed here many times for saying so.  Yet, this is exactly the reason why I didn't like the decision and people are being silly with the excuses.  If it was another player, one who many people here didn't go out on a limb on with expectations, then my thoughts would be with the majority. 

     

     

     




    This is probably the 3rd time Ive seen you post these ridiculous expectations. So I just have one question. When the H3ll did Wes do any of that for us. Game winning catch in the next 5 SBs!?!??! Cmon man, you gotta come off that or people aint gonna take you serious. Lets move on bro. IF this guy doesnt catch 5 game winning SB catches a a few MVPs, its a bad signing. ReallY??

     

     




    Apparently you missed the point... completely!!  My point is I have nothing against the guy, I actually have always liked what I seen when he is on the field, problem is he can't seem to stay on the field.  I want him to be able to help the team win a SB or two or five!  BUT to move from a dependable WR to an injure prone one was a bad idea, imo.  Many people jumped me with the opinion... I find it very silly, foolish, crazy to watch many here come up with all these excuses for the guy, the decision to go after him, downplay him being out.  Like I said, if so many people didn't jump on his band wagon the second he was signed everyone here would be stating everything I have been.  Looks like many are trying to save face here instead of thinking what is best for the team.  That is my point! 

     

     



    I didnt miss the point. I have gotten the point too much I believe. Most people here know how you feel at this time. MY point is wes aint coming back this year. YOu can root for the guy or B*tch all day and yes I used the word because you have been out of character like  a lot of others have noticed. Its an excersice in futility. YOU have set so high, ridiculous expectations that the guy will never live up to your standards provided by Wes Welker who was in an offense that NEVER WON A SB. The mere fact that he WAS the offense WAS the problem. EVEN with that said, BB and co still gave him the BEST offer he ever got and this Bum settled on 6 million after turning down 8. So MY point is BE mad at Welker. He made his bed and is laying in it. Are you a Pats fan or a Welker fan, cuz I cant tell. Im trying really hard not to believe that you are some fraud fan for living in San Fran and just covering the Pats since 07 like Rallyc said, but look at you. You have become unraveled and you dont even discuss football anymore. You just rag on Danny and Act like Wes is a god. We dont do that here. We move forward with the players THAT WANT TO BE HERE. WES LEFT FOR DENVER.

     

     



    WOW!

    Great Post.

     
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    Any chance they are dumb enough to try and put Gronk and DA in on Sunday as decoys?  One of the issues we have on Offense is that they are one dimensional.  They had zero TE production last week and not a single pass to a RB either.  That allowed the Jest to concentrate on stopping and the run and force TB to thorw to their untested rookie WRs.

    It's one thing to be pass heavy when you have WW, Hern, Gronk, Brandon Lloyd and Deion Branch to throw to.  It's another when you have Edleman, What's-his-name, Fumble-fingers and Never-heard-of-him...

    I'd rather see them win ugly or lose to the Bucs than risk ending either one of those guys seasons.

     
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    Re: Amendola's Injury Question

    In response to PatsEng's comment:

    In response to rkarp's comment:

    it appears that Amendolas body simply cant stand up to the rigors of the game. great, great player, seemingly his career will be shorted as his body fails him.

    has it ever been discussed here? Amnedola signing with the questions;

    -he seemingly signed with the PAts immediately. Either he really, really wanted to play here, or the Pats blew him way with an offer?

    -did he field any other offers, and if he did, anyone hear what those offers may have been?

    -his contract has protection for the PAts via a game bonus (he get $31,000 every game played), but the contract does not seem very cap wise at all...his back end cap hit is quite high. I simply cant see his body allowing him to play 5 years into his 32 years age year



    I mentioned all this when he signed. According to reports the Rams offer wasn't even half of what the Pats offered for far less years. I honestly think they took the contract they offered Welker, figured the difference in years between Welker and Amendola, added that to the contract, and then handed it to him. Which he couldn't wait to sign. I don't even think they thought about it because I've heard quotes from BB (specifically about the trading up for J Jones in Atl) that he does think some players are the same so why not give them the same money. I honestly believe BB took a look at Welker and Amendola, did what some do here, said those were freak injures, and just gave him the same contract he offered Welker without trying to find a better deal that no one was offering Amendola at the time.



    You honestly believe that????? Seriously??  You had a straight face while you typed that??  I'm asking you??  Seriously??

     
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    I didnt miss the point. I have gotten the point too much I believe. Most people here know how you feel at this time. MY point is wes aint coming back this year. YOu can root for the guy or B*tch all day and yes I used the word because you have been out of character like  a lot of others have noticed. Its an excersice in futility. YOU have set so high, ridiculous expectations that the guy will never live up to your standards provided by Wes Welker who was in an offense that NEVER WON A SB. The mere fact that he WAS the offense WAS the problem. EVEN with that said, BB and co still gave him the BEST offer he ever got and this Bum settled on 6 million after turning down 8. So MY point is BE mad at Welker. He made his bed and is laying in it. Are you a Pats fan or a Welker fan, cuz I cant tell. Im trying really hard not to believe that you are some fraud fan for living in San Fran and just covering the Pats since 07 like Rallyc said, but look at you. You have become unraveled and you dont even discuss football anymore. You just rag on Danny and Act like Wes is a god. We dont do that here. We move forward with the players THAT WANT TO BE HERE. WES LEFT FOR DENVER.



    TFB didn't mention anything about Welker.  Why make reference to him?  This thread is about Amendola.  Amendola was rumored to be an injury risk.  Why?  Because he's missed plenty of games because of injury.  Amendola is brought in to be the go to receiver.  The result is that he's injured.

    Stupid signing.  Stupid post about Welker.  Face the facts. 

     
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    This will be the 3rd year in a row Amendola will not play the entire season. May I ask why this is somehow shocking and surprising to some?

     
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    This will be the 3rd year in a row Amendola will not play the entire season. May I ask why this is somehow shocking and surprising to some?




    Then I guess Talib is next onto the DL?

     
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    This will be the 3rd year in a row Amendola will not play the entire season. May I ask why this is somehow shocking and surprising to some?

     




    Then I guess Talib is next onto the DL?

     




    I don't know...has Talib missed more that half the games over the last 2 seasons?

     
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    and his 1st game here and he already got another one. Seems he has a better Qb here and We can expect better numbers. No matter how much you hate this move, it wont bring Welkie back,. ijs. You are looking for reasons that he wont succeed here. That is being negative , sorry. Atleast root for the guy, yeeesh.

     

     



    Fair enough.  But no, I am not looking for reasons he won't succeed.  He provides enough reasons on his own.  Like I said many times before, I hope he catches the game winning TD's in the next 5 SB's and is MVP in a few of them.  When he was with the Rams I thought Amendola could be a good Welker type... his only problem was being able to stay on the field.  The Pats took a chance that was foolish, imo, and I was bashed here many times for saying so.  Yet, this is exactly the reason why I didn't like the decision and people are being silly with the excuses.  If it was another player, one who many people here didn't go out on a limb on with expectations, then my thoughts would be with the majority. 

     

     




    This is probably the 3rd time Ive seen you post these ridiculous expectations. So I just have one question. When the H3ll did Wes do any of that for us. Game winning catch in the next 5 SBs!?!??! Cmon man, you gotta come off that or people aint gonna take you serious. Lets move on bro. IF this guy doesnt catch 5 game winning SB catches a a few MVPs, its a bad signing. ReallY??

     



    Triple--While I agree the hand-wringing over Welker's departure needs to stop, I guess I just read TFB's statement differently.

    I took it to mean TFB is hoping that DA proves him wrong, and in dramatic fashion.  I don't see how him saying that he hopes DA succeeds to the point of catching the game-winner in 5 SBs and being the MVP in a few equates to TFB saying that DA better do those things, or that TFB expects DA to do those things and that anything less means the guy's a bust.

     
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    I don't know...has Talib missed more that half the games over the last 2 seasons?

     




    Not half, but he's consistently been unable to play an entire season the last few years.

     
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    Re: Amendola's Injury Question

    I don't know exactly what Amendola has, but FWIW, I have a sports hernia. I did it lifting. Opted not to get cut, though the doc said it was no big surgery. Had my fill of the knife for one lifetime, thank you.

    But there are days when it flares up and literally hurts to walk or do much of anything involving movement, kind of like if you've ever hurt your back. It sucks. Then two days later it's OK. But it never quite goes away.

    On the other hand, I'm a lot older than Amendola and not nearly as well conditioned and don't have access to trainers and all the assorted technology he does.

    But nobody is trying to knock me into next week at work either...

     
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    I hope he's better soon. Though we don't know the extent of his injury, groin injuries can linger for a year or even longer.  I'm certainly rooting for Amendola but he's definitely injury prone and will most likely always be. 

     
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    Re: Amendola's Injury Question

    I will wait until the end of the year

    If DA catches the SB winning pass- or any play off game it won't be a bad gamble

    If WW goes down it won't be a bad gamble

    if he doesn't play and it costs a chance to be in the playoffs you will be correct

    If he gets hurt in the playoffs you will probably be correct

    At least for this year

    For now you are premature


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