Analyzing the interception.

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    Re: Analyzing the interception.

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    In Response to Re: Analyzing the interception. : The molehill may very well be Brady's insubordinaton with regards to the coach above him (O'Brien). NO ONE IS ABOVE THE TEAM. And if Brady overruled in the huddle and he threw a pick, yes, we have a problem and his name is Brady for not understanding the situation. I find it intriguing you have no issue with that.  You want the inmates to run the asylum, do ya? You watch the Sox collapse this year, Wonder Gramps? I warned of the Brady/O'Brien relationship for TWO MONTHS and you kept throwing QB ratings in my face like a bozo. I'd suggest you start opening your eyes a bit.  Some know more than yourself and don't promote an agenda. Drink an Ensure and call us in the morning, Gramps.
    Posted by RidingWithTheKingII


    Are you trying to say the QB has no right to audible Spinboy?

    Now you're making it up that Brady thinks he is above the team. You are pathological after all.

    Brady isn't subordinate to the OC if he wants to tell a receiver something. Your mind is a terrible thing to waste.


     
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    In Response to Re: Analyzing the interception. : I think this is harsh. I think teams specifically raided this organization for two reasons: 1. To weaken the infrastructure. 2. To hope to have some of the magic rub off. So many guys loyal to BB  and Kraft turned down far more money many times. Pioli, Dimitroff, STs coach Brad Seely are 3 I know of. This doesn't even count scouts, which admittedly, shift from team to team more frequently than coaches. I think they have more of a respect for this element now after going through it, more so than before, which is why I disagree. Caserio isn't going anywhere.  Nor is O'Brien or Patricia unless they feel a need to upgrade. Look at Philly. Jim Johnson passes away and they STILL haven't fixed their D. Quality infrastructure is important, agreed, but I don't feel Kraft and BB take it lightly like you are suggesting. Scarnecchia has probably also had numerous high end offers to leave. They do all they can to hold on to who they want to hold on to within reason. We can't fault BB for what Manboobs did. The concept is right. Most of the successful teasm envy what BB does and hope they can mirror it. Pittsburgh has generally been  good at this, too. Not a coincidence.
    Posted by RidingWithTheKingII


    Why harsh?  If anything, I'm complimenting the Pats here.  They lost Pioli, Weis, Crennel, Mangini, McDaniels over the course of 4-5 years and they've brought along O'Brien, Patricia, Cesario, all in-house guys who aren't/weren't given titles of GM, OC or DC because they're still learning on the job or because BB is shielding them from being snatched away by teams looking for the next BB prodigy to lead their team. 

    Of course the Krafts/Pats do their best to retain the brain trust, but you really don't believe that BB is stretched too thin losing all of that experience?  I think that's part of why it's been a bit of a postseason drought around here.   
     
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    Re: Analyzing the interception.

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    In Response to Re: Analyzing the interception. : Like Brady said, NO SHYT! That's the point. He should have taken a penalty rather than chanced making the catch. Poor decision. He clearly saw the defender had good position on him. The good play is to not take the maybe 50/50 shot at the catch and take the 100% shot at no pick.
    Posted by BabeParilli


    Babe you questioned my knowledge of the game and specifically pointed out the offensive PI comment. So I merely pointed out I knew the rules of the game with regard to what you specifically quoted. If you are saying "NO SHYT" then why make the comment about me knowing the game to begin with?

    I hate to tell you but you can't blame a fringe player that could be released the day after the game for committing a stupid penalty from not wanting to commit a penalty then saying you needed to commit it because the face of the franchise messed up.

    It would be different if Welker, Gronk, or Branch did it but this kid is worried about having a job next week so in the fraction of a second he has to make the decision you are really going to blame him for not wanting to commit a penalty that could get him fired?

    What would you do if your Boss came up to you and said he needs you to take the blame for his bad decision as his boss was walking down the hall right after him? Would you risk taking the blame and getting fired or just play it safe and let the mistake play out?
     
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    Re: Analyzing the interception.

    The simple fact is that Brady was trying to show up the receiver in front of others by telling him that "you've got to go get it". 

    To which O'brien probably said something like, come on, Tom, make a better throw, do your job, etc.

    Whatever it was Tom responded with some explatives escalating the argument. 

    O'brien didn't like the response and gave it back to brady who responded with "no shyt" and "he's open". 

    I am not sure the comments that could be deciphered indicated that Tom felt like he was at any fault at that time.  Further it is clear that Underwood tried to separate the defender from the ball but wasn't strong enough to do so. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Analyzing the interception. : Or how about Law Firm with Marcus Cannon at fullback and Nate Solder as a receiver eligible tightend on the edge? 
    Posted by wozzy


    Strong left, strong left, strong left...kick if you need to.
    Hindsight is 20/20 but the Pats seem to no longer rely on the run game for six when they're in close.

    It's a shame.
     
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    Re: Analyzing the interception.

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    In Response to Re: Analyzing the interception. : No, I am trying to say you're annoying and intentionally ignorant to cause problems on this board as a troll. If I just said Brady's audbile to a pass from O'Brien's run call is the source of that blow up, then why would I say Brady has no audible power?  Try making sense and you might get somewhere.  Aren't I the one who also has referenced the 2009 SI article about Mannning/Brady's power and autonomy at the line during games? Try again, Wonder Gramps.
    Posted by RidingWithTheKingII


    Wonder Gramps and Spinboy? Yikes! lolol

    Do we need to call in BB to break it up?
     
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    Re: Analyzing the interception.

    66 - so could have wayne.  Wayne could have run a tighter route.  etc etc etc.  Just be thankful that int Brady threw didn't have the same results as the one Manning threw. 
     
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    Re: Analyzing the interception.

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    In Response to Re: Analyzing the interception. : I hate our 5 spread set. Hate it.  The only time that works is against bad or medicore Ds. Or Zone. That's it. There's no real hindsight against repeated offensive playcallling flaws. It's a pattern and it's troubling. Only BB/O'Brien and BB can fix it. I would advise Brady not to audible to a pass unless he absolutely feels secure with the call. It's utterly ridiculous to pretend we have no run game because we don't have a superstar in the #42 jersey.
    Posted by RidingWithTheKingII



    Didn't the Pats almost lead the NFL in rushing redzone TDs last year?
     
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