Re: ANDREW LUCK: ROOKIE OF THE YEAR AND MVP?
posted at 12/6/2012 9:03 PM EST
In response to JintsFan's comment:
In response to JintsFan's comment:
The amount of nonsense, selective "facts" and anti-Luck because he's a Colt c**p on this thread is ridiculous but very good for a hearty belly laugh!
I know Luck will get some very stiff ROTY competition RG3-who is fantastic-and I know some will cite numbers like QBR, TDs vs INTs, etc...but to me, if the Colts get 10-11 wins and Luck plays at the same level-including directly winning a couple like vs Detroit, I say the MVP has got to get serious consideration.
To be honest, just the hope and excitement he brought with him is worth MVP consideration.
This "numbers" garbage shows how much BSPN and Fantasy Geeks have taken over sports fans thinking. You bet Luck can thrown 24 tds and 20 ints and have a 90 QBR and be the ROTY and MVP. Stats are not what the MVP is about and even less so in Luck's case. It's who means the most to his team and if-you all forget that I said IF-colts go 10-6 and Luck pulls another one or two out then there is no way you can't look at the turn around in record combined with the comebacks combined with the hype and pressure of being the number 1 pick-called the "best pro prospect since John Elway"-which RG3 didnt have...well that smells like an ROTY/MVP to me!
As for RG3 love the guy, love watching him play, makes the skins better immediately BUT...
still get the feeling his game is the type the league will catch up to and defend eventually. He is throwing to his primary receiver and running out of necessity too often. Will he be great? Win MVP's and SB's? Sure it's possible and I am a fan of his but the NFL has a way of stopping the latest fad/unstoppable player/system and he may end up being very good but not what he is now IF the league figures him out a bit. Still could be ROTY and all-time great.
Wilson? how anyone here BREDBRU can put him ahead of Luck is fall down funny. Wilson is a nice story playing very well and has poise and arm strength, etc...but he is not going to be unstoppable or all-time by any stretch. He-to me anyway-will settle into that 10-15 area: very good, can win and have great games but not a super star. Not made for that.
Luck has been bred for this and in certain respects looks like a pro already not a rookie. I will say barring something crazy he will be -in 3 or 4 years-the best QB in the NFL. He can be like Brady, Manning, etc...no tricks, no need to run and throw, no razzle dazzle to fool a D-just drop back, scan the field and hit the open man.
Then again who knows? I actually like RG3 and Wilson too along with dalton and some of the other young qbs. Think the future looks bright whoever turns out to be great.
Ok, let's not use "statistics". Give me one good reason why Luck should be the MVP. Should we just use your "feelings"
Or better yet, if being one of the worst QBs in the NFL is worthy of MVP than what would Luck have to do to not get the MVP? Does he have special rules? He gets the MVP as long as he throws less than 30 interceptions? Why are QBs with identical play not being considered for MVP?
If we are all using selective facts because he's a Colt than why isn't anyone anywhere besides you talking about Luck as an MVP candidate?
The reality is, the media told you he was the next Brady and Manning and now no matter what he does you believe it. But he is playing just like Ponder and Gabbert and all the other guys the media didn't hype. Ask yourself, outside of the circus that surrounded Luck what has he done better than all the QBs drafted in the last 5 years to make you think he's better, let alone an all time great? He's done nothing. He's shown nothing in the NFL that warrant the thinking he's a "great QB". He's a Joe Namath type right now, living on name recognition.
Theres nothing special about his rookie year, there is for RGIII and Wilson who are playing like veterans.