Any chance of getting Decker?

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    Decker is OK, he's not a #1 WR. But he's going to be paid like one. Let someone else overpay the guy. Riley Cooper is basically a carbon copy of Decker, for maybe half the money. Or better yet, this is supposedly the deepest draft class for WRs in decades. Rookies cost $500K per year.

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    Decker isn't a #1?  With 1288 yards and 11 td's last season.  1000+ yards and 13 td's the previous year, you don't think he is a #1?  Wow!  What would you consider a #1?

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    No way Decker is a legit #1.  Good #2/possession guy, but no way a #1.  He doesn't hold a candle to Demarius.

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    I agree but he will be over payed and get #1 money. I think Elway knows this and will let him walk. Decker is going to get a Mike Wallace deal(and he isn't a #1 receiver either)

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    1,288 yards and 11 tds last season, 1,000+ yards and 13 td's the prior season, yeah he will be getting #1 WR money.

     
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    With BB? Probably not.

     
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    Decker is OK, he's not a #1 WR. But he's going to be paid like one. Let someone else overpay the guy. Riley Cooper is basically a carbon copy of Decker, for maybe half the money. Or better yet, this is supposedly the deepest draft class for WRs in decades. Rookies cost $500K per year.

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    Decker isn't a #1?  With 1288 yards and 11 td's last season.  1000+ yards and 13 td's the previous year, you don't think he is a #1?  Wow!  What would you consider a #1?

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    No way Decker is a legit #1.  Good #2/possession guy, but no way a #1.  He doesn't hold a candle to Demarius.

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    So you wouldn't consider Decker a #1 if he came to NE?  But in another thread Dobson is being compared to a #1?  W-t-f?? 

    If Decker is a possession guy at 1288 yards and 11 tds, I will take a possession guy over any of the Pats current WR's, lol!!

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    You're not listening, champ. He plays with one of the best WRs in the game (Thomas) and he often draws the second best CB and rarely ever faces double coverage. Think back to the AFCCG, when Dennard was on Decker, he had 0 catches. When Dennard moved to Thomas, Thomas schooled him. Decker didn't have a big game until he lined up with Arrington who every one schools.

    No real number 1 gets taken out by Dennard.

     
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    Decker is OK, he's not a #1 WR. But he's going to be paid like one. Let someone else overpay the guy. Riley Cooper is basically a carbon copy of Decker, for maybe half the money. Or better yet, this is supposedly the deepest draft class for WRs in decades. Rookies cost $500K per year.

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    Decker isn't a #1?  With 1288 yards and 11 td's last season.  1000+ yards and 13 td's the previous year, you don't think he is a #1?  Wow!  What would you consider a #1?

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    No way Decker is a legit #1.  Good #2/possession guy, but no way a #1.  He doesn't hold a candle to Demarius.

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    I agree but he will be over payed and get #1 money. I think Elway knows this and will let him walk. Decker is going to get a Mike Wallace deal(and he isn't a #1 receiver either)

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    1,288 yards and 11 tds last season, 1,000+ yards and 13 td's the prior season, yeah he will be getting #1 WR money.

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    Product of the greatest regular season stats compiling QB in NFL history.

    Good player, just not elite. Well worth the pay check and a great pick by McDaniels but for the 30 plus mill he's about to get guaranteed...no thanks.

     
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    A #1 WR does not have 1 catch for 6 yards in the biggest game of his life...no matter how horrible his over-rated QB is playing.

     
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    A #1 WR does not have 1 catch for 6 yards in the biggest game of his life...no matter how horrible his over-rated QB is playing.

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    You talking about the Super Bowl?  It was the Seahawks, you think the Pats WR's would have done any better then the Broncos receivers?  Julius Thomas is no slouch, the Seahwks keep him shut down too.  It happens.  Did the Pats #1 WR have good games every game?  Nope!!

     
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    A #1 WR does not have 1 catch for 6 yards in the biggest game of his life...no matter how horrible his over-rated QB is playing.




    You talking about the Super Bowl?  It was the Seahawks, you think the Pats WR's would have done any better then the Broncos receivers?  Julius Thomas is no slouch, the Seahwks keep him shut down too.  It happens.  Did the Pats #1 WR have good games every game?  Nope!!

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    But Dennard takes him out of the game everytime the two meet. Check the stats...

     
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    A #1 WR does not have 1 catch for 6 yards in the biggest game of his life...no matter how horrible his over-rated QB is playing.

     

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    You talking about the Super Bowl?  It was the Seahawks, you think the Pats WR's would have done any better then the Broncos receivers?  Julius Thomas is no slouch, the Seahwks keep him shut down too.  It happens.  Did the Pats #1 WR have good games every game?  Nope!!

     

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    But Dennard takes him out of the game everytime the two meet. Check the stats...

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    Okay, maybe Dennard has his number.  Dennard is a bad match up for Decker.  Got it!  It happens to the best of them.  Decker had 1,200+ yards last season with 11 td's...  Are you saying everyone else who covered Decker throughout the season were worse then Dennard?  I seriously doubt they were.

     

     
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    Other than RB, WR is the worst position to shell out a lot of money for imo.  I'd rather spend the money elsewhere.

     
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    Other than RB, WR is the worst position to shell out a lot of money for imo.  I'd rather spend the money elsewhere.

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    Me too.  Get better in the trenches, and everything else will follow .

     
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    A #1 WR does not have 1 catch for 6 yards in the biggest game of his life...no matter how horrible his over-rated QB is playing.

     

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    You talking about the Super Bowl?  It was the Seahawks, you think the Pats WR's would have done any better then the Broncos receivers?  Julius Thomas is no slouch, the Seahwks keep him shut down too.  It happens.  Did the Pats #1 WR have good games every game?  Nope!!

     

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    But Dennard takes him out of the game everytime the two meet. Check the stats...

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    Okay, maybe Dennard has his number.  Dennard is a bad match up for Decker.  Got it!  It happens to the best of them.  Decker had 1,200+ yards last season with 11 td's...  Are you saying everyone else who covered Decker throughout the season were worse then Dennard?  I seriously doubt they were.

     

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    Dennard isn't a scrub, but he's not a number 1 CB(Check what Thomas did to him). Decker wsn't getting other team's Talib, he was matched up against their Arringtons a lot since Welker was the number 2 WR.

     
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    Dennard isn't a scrub, but he's not a number 1 CB(Check what Thomas did to him). Decker wsn't getting other team's Talib, he was matched up against their Arringtons a lot since Welker was the number 2 WR.

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    Awesome!  That's what a group of talented WR's does for an offense.  You shut down 1 player and now there are a few other talented WR's to provide production.  That WR group in Denver was fantastic!  You shut one down, they had 3 other guys to go to.  Now look at the Pats... No threats!  So take your pick, put a teams best DB on any of the Pats WR's and really, do you see others providing the production needed to win?  Not really.  You look back at any of the Pats losses last season and if they had more talent at the WR position they win a couple of those games.  And now you want to repeat that this season?

    Yes, defense is great and the Pats need to improve defense but they also need another WR who is experienced, capable of getting down field, who is big, strong and physical.  There wasn't a team in the NFL who would have beat the Seahawks on Super Bowl night.   It was their game right from the very first snap. 

     
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    Gronk + dobson + decker = SIZE !!!!! I LIKE IT !

     
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    yeah he will be getting #1 WR money.



    There are 18 WRs currently in the league under contract whose AAV is 8+ million (WR #1 money).  None of them have ever won a SB since signing those contracts.  The WR position isn't worth that kind of money.

     
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    I kinda like the ones we have, let em grow. I could see Sanders perhaps but we need a TE first.

    Can I also throw in my rant again for the umpteenth time...fix the darn lines.

     
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    Dennard isn't a scrub, but he's not a number 1 CB(Check what Thomas did to him). Decker wsn't getting other team's Talib, he was matched up against their Arringtons a lot since Welker was the number 2 WR.

     



    Awesome!  That's what a group of talented WR's does for an offense.  You shut down 1 player and now there are a few other talented WR's to provide production.  That WR group in Denver was fantastic!  You shut one down, they had 3 other guys to go to.  Now look at the Pats... No threats!  So take your pick, put a teams best DB on any of the Pats WR's and really, do you see others providing the production needed to win?  Not really.  You look back at any of the Pats losses last season and if they had more talent at the WR position they win a couple of those games.  And now you want to repeat that this season?

     

    Yes, defense is great and the Pats need to improve defense but they also need another WR who is experienced, capable of getting down field, who is big, strong and physical.  There wasn't a team in the NFL who would have beat the Seahawks on Super Bowl night.   It was their game right from the very first snap. 




    Okay, firstly, that same offense was shut down the very next game by a hard hitting defense that beat them off the line of scrimmage. There is a pattern there, no matter how good an offense is, a good defense will always own them. See the 2004 Colts, 2007 Patriots, 2010 Patriots, 2011 Packers, 2013 Broncos...

    Offenses are overrated, end of this. A good defense is more important.

    Secondly, Decker isn't that WR you keep calling for. Capable of getting downfield? Decker runs a 4.54, if you're waiting for him to get downfield Brady will be on his back all season. Strong and pyhsical? Decker isn't strong or physical either, he fades when a guy can man him up and play physically with him (Like Dennard and the Seahawks). Are you sure you're not confusing Decker and Thomas? Thomas is the one who ran a 4.38, is 6'3 230 pounds, scored a 33 on his Wonderlic (High for a WR) and demands a double team.

     

    Finally, The Seahawks have a worse WR corps than us. How did they win the SB? They just punched everyone in the mouth.

     

     
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     Dennard isn't a scrub, but he's not a number 1 CB(Check what Thomas did to him). Decker wsn't getting other team's Talib, he was matched up against their Arringtons a lot since Welker was the number 2 WR.

     
    Awesome!  That's what a group of talented WR's does for an offense.  You shut down 1 player and now there are a few other talented WR's to provide production.  That WR group in Denver was fantastic!  You shut one down, they had 3 other guys to go to.  Now look at the Pats... No threats!  So take your pick, put a teams best DB on any of the Pats WR's and really, do you see others providing the production needed to win?  Not really.  You look back at any of the Pats losses last season and if they had more talent at the WR position they win a couple of those games.  And now you want to repeat that this season?

     

    Yes, defense is great and the Pats need to improve defense but they also need another WR who is experienced, capable of getting down field, who is big, strong and physical.  There wasn't a team in the NFL who would have beat the Seahawks on Super Bowl night.   It was their game right from the very first snap. 

     



    Okay, firstly, that same offense was shut down the very next game by a hard hitting defense that beat them off the line of scrimmage. There is a pattern there, no matter how good an offense is, a good defense will always own them. See the 2004 Colts, 2007 Patriots, 2010 Patriots, 2011 Packers, 2013 Broncos...

     

    Offenses are overrated, end of this. A good defense is more important.

    Secondly, Decker isn't that WR you keep calling for. Capable of getting downfield? Decker runs a 4.54, if you're waiting for him to get downfield Brady will be on his back all season. Strong and pyhsical? Decker isn't strong or physical either, he fades when a guy can man him up and play physically with him (Like Dennard and the Seahawks). Are you sure you're not confusing Decker and Thomas? Thomas is the one who ran a 4.38, is 6'3 230 pounds, scored a 33 on his Wonderlic (High for a WR) and demands a double team.

     

    Finally, The Seahawks have a worse WR corps than us. How did they win the SB? They just punched everyone in the mouth.

     



    Decker not capable of getting down field? Slow?  The dude had 19 receptions over 20 yards in 2013.  That just happens to be the same number of receptions Demaryius Thomas had over 20 yards.  Oh, and just 3 shy of Calvin Johnson who had 22 receptions over 20 yards.  Guess who had the most receptions over 20 yards on the Patriots?  Gronk, with 10. Edelman had 9, Dobson had a whopping 6!  Thompkins with 8.  Not good enough!

     

    So all this talk about the Seahawks defense, yeah they are awesome. They won the Super Bowl shutting Manning and the offensive powerhouse Broncos down.  So all you need is a #1 defense to win it all?  Well, can the Pats be a #1 defense next season?  is that all it will take?  how about a top 5 defense?  Can they do that?  The 49'ers are a top 5 defense and they lost to the Seahawks.... twice.  Oh, and how well did that work for all the other defenses who allowed few points then the Pats?  Panthers, Saints, Bengals, Chiefs, Cards, Dolphins, Colts?  You still need to be able to score, last I checked the Seahawks were also able to score, and score against more top defenses they faced then the Patriots faced.

    I really hate to be the bearer of bad news but Dobson, Thompkins, Amendola aren't going to be the receivers to help provide those points needed to win the big one. Especially if Edelman is gone and they don't fill that void.

    I'm all for a top defense but to pretend that a solid,top WR isn't needed too is just foolish.  I don't get some of the thinking that goes on here.

     
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    BTW, just for the record.... Riley Cooper signing a 4 year deal to stay with the Eagles.

     
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     Dennard isn't a scrub, but he's not a number 1 CB(Check what Thomas did to him). Decker wsn't getting other team's Talib, he was matched up against their Arringtons a lot since Welker was the number 2 WR.

     
    Awesome!  That's what a group of talented WR's does for an offense.  You shut down 1 player and now there are a few other talented WR's to provide production.  That WR group in Denver was fantastic!  You shut one down, they had 3 other guys to go to.  Now look at the Pats... No threats!  So take your pick, put a teams best DB on any of the Pats WR's and really, do you see others providing the production needed to win?  Not really.  You look back at any of the Pats losses last season and if they had more talent at the WR position they win a couple of those games.  And now you want to repeat that this season?

     

    Yes, defense is great and the Pats need to improve defense but they also need another WR who is experienced, capable of getting down field, who is big, strong and physical.  There wasn't a team in the NFL who would have beat the Seahawks on Super Bowl night.   It was their game right from the very first snap. 

     



    Okay, firstly, that same offense was shut down the very next game by a hard hitting defense that beat them off the line of scrimmage. There is a pattern there, no matter how good an offense is, a good defense will always own them. See the 2004 Colts, 2007 Patriots, 2010 Patriots, 2011 Packers, 2013 Broncos...

     

    Offenses are overrated, end of this. A good defense is more important.

    Secondly, Decker isn't that WR you keep calling for. Capable of getting downfield? Decker runs a 4.54, if you're waiting for him to get downfield Brady will be on his back all season. Strong and pyhsical? Decker isn't strong or physical either, he fades when a guy can man him up and play physically with him (Like Dennard and the Seahawks). Are you sure you're not confusing Decker and Thomas? Thomas is the one who ran a 4.38, is 6'3 230 pounds, scored a 33 on his Wonderlic (High for a WR) and demands a double team.

     

    Finally, The Seahawks have a worse WR corps than us. How did they win the SB? They just punched everyone in the mouth.

     

     

     



    Decker not capable of getting down field? Slow?  The dude had 19 receptions over 20 yards in 2013.  That just happens to be the same number of receptions Demaryius Thomas had over 20 yards.  Oh, and just 3 shy of Calvin Johnson who had 22 receptions over 20 yards.  Guess who had the most receptions over 20 yards on the Patriots?  Gronk, with 10. Edelman had 9, Dobson had a whopping 6!  Thompkins with 8.  Not good enough!

     

    So all this talk about the Seahawks defense, yeah they are awesome. They won the Super Bowl shutting Manning and the offensive powerhouse Broncos down.  So all you need is a #1 defense to win it all?  Well, can the Pats be a #1 defense next season?  is that all it will take?  how about a top 5 defense?  Can they do that?  The 49'ers are a top 5 defense and they lost to the Seahawks.... twice.  Oh, and how well did that work for all the other defenses who allowed few points then the Pats?  Panthers, Saints, Bengals, Chiefs, Cards, Dolphins, Colts?  You still need to be able to score, last I checked the Seahawks were also able to score, and score against more top defenses they faced then the Patriots faced.

    I really hate to be the bearer of bad news but Dobson, Thompkins, Amendola aren't going to be the receivers to help provide those points needed to win the big one. Especially if Edelman is gone and they don't fill that void.

    I'm all for a top defense but to pretend that a solid,top WR isn't needed too is just foolish.  I don't get some of the thinking that goes on here.

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    First of all, you forget that Dobson dropped some deep balls that he should've had. Dobson also plays with a Brady--his deep ball is going to miss Dobson a lot--so let's not act like Dobson isn't a deep threat. Secondly, stats lie, stop looking at the stats and use your eyes. Just look at Decker's highlight reel...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEYxfRVChb4

    Do you really see a burner? Now look at Thomas' highlights...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw6Q6l2iR1k

    Notice the difference between a possesion WR and a deep threat? Not saying Decker is bad and I think Decker fits Brady's mid-short range skills, but he's not a number 1 WR and certainly not someone you break bank on.

     
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    First of all, you forget that Dobson dropped some deep balls that he should've had. Dobson also plays with a Brady--his deep ball is going to miss Dobson a lot--so let's not act like Dobson isn't a deep threat. Secondly, stats lie, stop looking at the stats and use your eyes. Just look at Decker's highlight reel...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEYxfRVChb4

    Do you really see a burner? Now look at Thomas' highlights...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw6Q6l2iR1k

    Notice the difference between a possesion WR and a deep threat? Not saying Decker is bad and I think Decker fits Brady's mid-short range skills, but he's not a number 1 WR and certainly not someone you break bank on.

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    Oh, but I do use my eyes and when you combine the eye test with stats it can be a deadly combination.  I watch more then Pats football, and I watched enough Denver football to see Decker put up the stats that he did.  He can go up and get the ball, he can be physical, he can go mid to deep.  I'm not saying he is a total deep threat, but he can go there.  I watched him do it and the stats show he can do it... just as much as the receivers who are considered deep threats.  Earlier You pretty much said he couldn't.  He might not be a #1 in your eyes but there are a dozen teams out there who will pay him to be their #1. 

    Question.... Riley Cooper just re-signed with the Eagles, did he get #1 or #2 receiver $?  And do you think Decker will get the same or more then him?  Why?

     
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    First of all, you forget that Dobson dropped some deep balls that he should've had. Dobson also plays with a Brady--his deep ball is going to miss Dobson a lot--so let's not act like Dobson isn't a deep threat. Secondly, stats lie, stop looking at the stats and use your eyes. Just look at Decker's highlight reel...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEYxfRVChb4

    Do you really see a burner? Now look at Thomas' highlights...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw6Q6l2iR1k

    Notice the difference between a possesion WR and a deep threat? Not saying Decker is bad and I think Decker fits Brady's mid-short range skills, but he's not a number 1 WR and certainly not someone you break bank on.


    Oh, but I do use my eyes and when you combine the eye test with stats it can be a deadly combination.  I watch more then Pats football, and I watched enough Denver football to see Decker put up the stats that he did.  He can go up and get the ball, he can be physical, he can go mid to deep.  I'm not saying he is a total deep threat, but he can go there.  I watched him do it and the stats show he can do it... just as much as the receivers who are considered deep threats.  Earlier You pretty much said he couldn't.  He might not be a #1 in your eyes but there are a dozen teams out there who will pay him to be their #1. 

    Question.... Riley Cooper just re-signed with the Eagles, did he get #1 or #2 receiver $?  And do you think Decker will get the same or more then him?  Why?

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    Let's ask some experts..

     

    Strengths

    Great size, bulk, and muscle definition. Precise route runner. Very strong and can drag people after the catch. Extremely smart and had the highest Wonderlic score at the combine with a 43. Really fights for the ball in the air. Great possession player. Uses his body well to shield defenders. Made a lot of big plays in college. Very good blocker. Tough and will go over the middle.

    Weaknesses

    Ended his senior year with a foot injury, but he should be healthy in time for training camp. Doesn’t have great speed and isn’t sudden at all, but he gets open. May have reached his potential and doesn’t have a ton of upside. Didn’t always get consistent separation and he may struggle to do so in the NFL. Is he athletic enough to play in the slot?

    Analysis

    You know what you’re getting with Eric Decker. He’s a great possession receiver with good character who made a lot of big plays. He’ll contribute immediately and could potentially turn in to a solid 40-50 catch a year type player.

    http://draftbreakdown.com/scouting-report-eric-decker/

     

     

     
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    The question mark that some scouts have is Decker’s speed, where he may lack the top-end speed needed to be a consistent threat down the field; however, I feel that Eric’s terrific route running and quickness help him make up for the lack of elite speed.

     

    http://www.thehuddle.com/x10/nfl_draft/scout_rpt/wr-eric-decker.php

     

    Weaknesses:

    • Doesn't show much upside after the catch
    • Lacks some agility
    • Doesn't have a second gear or explosive speed
    • Not much of a deep threat
    • Might struggle with bump coverage in NFL
    • Limited upside

      Summary: Decker is the prototypical possession, No. 2 receiver in the NFL. Teams will know exactly what they will get with Decker because he will work hard on and off the field. He will never be a stat monster in the NFL, but he will draw away double teams and he is a major threat in the red zone to score with his size, body control and hands. Decker will probably go off the board in the late first to early second round.

      Player Comparison: Kevin Walter. Walter is a very reliable possession receiver for the Texans, but doesn't have much upside.  
    • http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010edecker.php
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      Overview

      Decker is a big receiver with small receiver skills. He is quicker than he is fast and while he has enough speed he is not the type that will take many all the way to the house at the next level. He runs crisp routes and will show a good short burst to separate from defenders but will struggle to maintain that separation. He is a natural receiver that has soft, sure hands and a wide receiving radius that allows him to extend to catch slightly off target throws. He missed the final four games of the regular season due to a foot injury but returned in time to play in the bowl game against Iowa State.

      Analysis

     

    • Strengths Decker possesses great size. Was extremely productive in college. Exhibits good quickness & agility which he uses to overcome lack of elite burst.t afraid to go over the middle.

     

    • Weaknesses Lacks elite top end speed which could severely limit his big-play potential at the next level. Lacks a second gear to pull away from defenders after the catch or in and out of his breaks against a corner capable of mirroring him

      http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/eric-decker?id=497284
     
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    Re: Any chance of getting Decker?

    I wish these were isolated, but they're not. As far as Cooper goes, he's a poor man's Jordy Nelson and Nelson isn't making big bucks. Decker, to me at least, is more in line with Brian Hartline/David Givens type.

    He's a bigger version of Edelman/Amendola and do we really need 3 of the same guys? Plus he's probably looking for a 10 mill contract, not Cooper's 5 mill(#2 WR money).

     
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    Re: Any chance of getting Decker?

    So you are posting draft/combine reports.  LMAO!  And I don't mean that with disrespect. But those were from over 4 years ago.

    Again, those were draft/combine reports.  Should we post Brady's draft/combine reports and have a good laugh together.

    Decker can get down field and provide a deeper threat when needed, he did 19 times last season.  Now do I consider him a burner, a deep threat receiver?  NO.  I have stated many times that he isn't but he is a good mid to deeper receiver guy, certainly better then Dobson, Thompkins, Edelman and Amendola are.  There are lot's of burners in the NFL but do they make good deep threats?  Not if they aren't physical and can't get open, or drop too many passes.  I think he would fit in well.  Pats won't spend the money on him but I like what he would offer.  More then anyone else out there now.

     
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    Re: Any chance of getting Decker?

    In response to TFB12's comment:
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    So you are posting draft/combine reports.  LMAO!  And I don't mean that with disrespect. But those were from over 4 years ago.

    Again, those were draft/combine reports.  Should we post Brady's draft/combine reports and have a good laugh together.

    Decker can get down field and provide a deeper threat when needed, he did 19 times last season.  Now do I consider him a burner, a deep threat receiver?  NO.  I have stated many times that he isn't but he is a good mid to deeper receiver guy, certainly better then Dobson, Thompkins, Edelman and Amendola are.  There are lot's of burners in the NFL but do they make good deep threats?  Not if they aren't physical and can't get open, or drop too many passes.  I think he would fit in well.  Pats won't spend the money on him but I like what he would offer.  More then anyone else out there now.

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    You keep telling yourself that, but he won't end up being better than Dobson. Dobson would've had a much better season if he held on to the 7 balls he dropped (a few of them were deep balls that traveled 30+ yards), he mastered the playbook and he had the chemistry Brady had with Edelman.

     

    Let me see how well he syncs up with Brady, if they gel, you can up my Dobson prediction to 1,000 yards.

     

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