Re: Any realistic trade options out there? Who would you target?
posted at 10/22/2013 12:16 PM EDT
In response to PatsEng's comment:
In response to PatsLifer's comment:
I get what your saying...but,
1. Taylor is an important building block for Lombardi ...why trade him? Money?
2. If the pats get creative with the cap to pay taylor and Vince we can kiss Talib good bye. I would rather pay for Talib and draft the best DT we can
Clev has a couple younger DT's that they have under control for a couple more years and with a 1st they can grab another so the one thing the Browns don't do is pay olayers coming up on deals. The other thing to think about is they are about to go through a rebuild with a new QB and need to build some positions up. It doesn't make much sense to pay top dollar for a DT when you have ready replacements and you are about to go into a rebuild. That money could be better used somewhere else. Not to mention the Browns want ammo to move up and grab the top QB in the draft. Having that extra 1st makes sense in that means. Not saying they would but that does give motivation to move forward without Taylor.
As for the cap hit. I think they do have room for Taylor, Vince, and Talib. One thing to note is the vast majority of Wilforks contract next year is base salary. Provided an extension you could easily turn that base into bonus and extend over 3-4 years along with extra money to make Vince want to sign, think what they did with Brady. That could free up 6mil in room give or take. With creative salary workings you could minimize the cap hit for both Taylor and Talib going into the next year where in the following year (provided you stop making dumb dead space signings) you would have over $8mil coming off the books in dead cap space and the cap is raising (est by $15mil last I heard). That gives you wiggle room to fit both. Then you cut some players (A. Wilson, Gregory as examples) to give room to fit the rooks in. I'd even take a hard look at a Mankins restructure if possible. But they have some room, not a ton but some room to fit both guys in.
The other thing to look at is I hear you that Talib is very important to the secondary but I always feel D starts in the trenches and a great pass rush can make up for weaker secondary but not the other way around. So if I had to put a priority list together given Talib hasn't made it through a full season and has hip issues already I might but a bigger emphizes on a long term anchor on the DL over a CB who might have injury issues long term moving forward, but that's just personal preference.
I think Talibs number will depend on his health. If he gets back on the field, and stays on the field, he is making himself a lot of money. Ditto McCourty, making himself a lot of money. Vince is on the books next year at $11.6M for his 32nd year age. Extending him into his 35th or 36th year seems very un-BBish. Taylor is signed thru next year, and will then look for a big contract. I simply don't see BB offering a #1 for 1.5 years of Taylor AND then signing him to top $$$.