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Any speculation on the Monster Colts trade?

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    Re: Any speculation on the Monster Colts trade?

    I can't believe that the Colts gave up a #1 for Richardson.  Hey, give them credit for being bold, but is Cleveland so deep in its rebuilding that it wants to get rid of the guy already?  Something doesn't seem right.  I think the Browns would have done well to get a #2, never mind a #1.  Maybe he flourishes in Indy with Luck, you never know.   



     
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    Re: Any speculation on the Monster Colts trade?

    Another thought on this; maybe it's not just the Colt's first round pick that the Brown's have their eye on.

    The value of winning no games instead of, say, 4 games could set this franchise up for 10 more years.

    As far as giving up a number 3 pick overall; Sunk costs are never relevant.

    this could be "suck for Bridgewater"

     
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    This is a great deal for Indy in my opinion. But not a total loss for Cleveland.

    People are talking as if he's been in the league for 4 years. The guy is 18 games into his career. As UD6 pointed out, CLE paid a lot of the money already in bonuses.

    They ended up with the 2012 #1 and #3 fking picks, are you kidding me! On draft day, had they traded their 2014 first rounder for Trent Richardson, people would have flipped out at the robbery...but 18 games later and it's not still a steal? Indy cashed in on an awful CLE situation.

    Luck, Hilton, Richardson. Wow. You're a fortunate fan UD6, what a core to have fun watching for the next 3+ seasons.

    This is one of those rare situations where both teams did well. Nobody else would have paid such a price. Only that price makes this deal happen in Week 3.

     
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    Re: Any speculation on the Monster Colts trade?

    In response to ma6dragon9's comment:


    On draft day, had they traded their 2014 first rounder for Trent Richardson, people would have flipped out at the robbery...but 18 games later and it's not still a steal?



    18 games later Richardson has a history of nagging injuries and a 3.5 ypc.  His stock isn't nearly as high as it was on draft day.  I think the additional weapons in Indy will be more or less cancelled out by the inferior offensive line.  If Richardson improves it will be because he improves as a player as opposed to the effect of the change of scenery imo.  I don't think it's a given that he becomes the superstar the draftniks thought he was going to be. Obviously the Browns don't either since they just traded him and frankly given how hard Saban rides these guys at Bama you have to wonder about durability a bit.  We'll know more at the end of the season, but I was surprised at this trade.  I thought the Colts had bigger needs than RB.

     
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    Re: Any speculation on the Monster Colts trade?

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    aren't the pats a little thin at running back right now?  Isn't Maroney available?  He knows the system. 

     



    You have nothing to say. We walked from guys like BJGE and Woodhead, both UDFAs, who blow away anything on your roster right now.

     

    Your team isn't built yet and Irsay thinks it is. Colossal mistake.  You dom't mortgage drafts in the future when you aren't close to winning it all.

    You rented a lot of players this year as a bridge year, with a flat cap and so many guys gone from last year, and no coach with cancer to rally the troops, you'll be in a different spot, especially with Arians gone.

    Transition year. Grigson panicked. Period.

     




    ur garbage queenie

     
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    Re: Any speculation on the Monster Colts trade?

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    On draft day, had they traded their 2014 first rounder for Trent Richardson, people would have flipped out at the robbery...but 18 games later and it's not still a steal?

     

     



    18 games later Richardson has a history of nagging injuries and a 3.5 ypc.  His stock isn't nearly as high as it was on draft day.  I think the additional weapons in Indy will be more or less cancelled out by the inferior offensive line.  If Richardson improves it will be because he improves as a player as opposed to the effect of the change of scenery imo.  I don't think it's a given that he becomes the superstar the draftniks thought he was going to be. Obviously the Browns don't either since they just traded him and frankly given how hard Saban rides these guys at Bama you have to wonder about durability a bit.  We'll know more at the end of the season, but I was surprised at this trade.  I thought the Colts had bigger needs than RB.

     

     

     



    Yet the colts get a player without having to pay or account for any bonus money.  That makes the deal, financially, significantly better than just a 1st round pick.  There are plenty of teams who do not covet first round picks especially because the picks provide no guarantee of success. 

     

    I noted what the pats got in 09 for their first round pick.  Everyone was raving about the haul of picks they got for it and not a single player stuck on the roster.  

    The he colts have high expectations for Richardson.  Grison said he passed the eye test.  I'd say the reigning exec of the year gets that benefit of the doubt.  



    See how good of a deal when he gets hurt. He has a much better QB to play for. The threat of a legit pass will take people out of the box. Career wise good move for Richardson.  

     
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    Re: Any speculation on the Monster Colts trade?

    In response to bostatewarrior's comment:

    Another thought on this; maybe it's not just the Colt's first round pick that the Brown's have their eye on.

    The value of winning no games instead of, say, 4 games could set this franchise up for 10 more years.

    As far as giving up a number 3 pick overall; Sunk costs are never relevant.

    this could be "suck for Bridgewater"




    Bostate

    It is obvious you understand more than football with your statement "Sunk costs are never relevant". The mistakes many of us make in life is living too much in the past. 

     
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    Re: Any speculation on the Monster Colts trade?

    The only back worth being a first round pick would be Adrian Peterson. Backs have a short shelf life, especially guys who played at Alabama for Saban. Cleveland shouldn't have used the 3rd pick for him in the first place. I guess they've done what they had to do to put themselves in position to draft a franchise QB. They've packed it in for the season after week two.

     
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    Re: Any speculation on the Monster Colts trade?

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    Yet the colts get a player without having to pay or account for any bonus money.  That makes the deal, financially, significantly better than just a 1st round pick.  There are plenty of teams who do not covet first round picks especially because the picks provide no guarantee of success. 

    I noted what the pats got in 09 for their first round pick.  Everyone was raving about the haul of picks they got for it and not a single player stuck on the roster.  

    The he colts have high expectations for Richardson.  Grison said he passed the eye test.  I'd say the reigning exec of the year gets that benefit of the doubt.  



    You need to relax.  I didn't say it was a bad trade.  The question I was responding to read:

    "On draft day, had they traded their 2014 first rounder for Trent Richardson, people would have flipped out at the robbery...but 18 games later and it's not still a steal?"

    I gave my perspective as to why this trade and that scenario are not equivalent on paper because I don't think his stock is as high as it was on draft day.  Why you're even mentioning the Patriots here is a mystery to me.  The fact that you feel the need to aggressively defend your team from any perceived criticism on another team's message board is amusing in it of itself.

     
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    Re: Any speculation on the Monster Colts trade?

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    I don't know that I'd be so negative about this trade. Richardson in Indy, vs Richardson in Cleveland, are two different players. One is 'the show' the other merely complements a passing attack. Plus, for a chunky little RB Richardson is actually a pretty gifted receiver out of the backfield, which suits what Indy does.

    That said, no RB is worth a first rounder, but I'd imagine that Indy probably thinks they won't be getting a very good first rounder because their division isn't terrific, and they may eke into the playoffs again.

     

     



    Well put

     
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