Re: Anybody else think this may be the most talented team the Pats have had since 2007?
posted at 8/20/2013 3:56 PM EDT
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The first drive of the Tampa game was a thing of beauty. Well executed, using Develin like they used to use Heath Evans, Patrick Pass etc. Matt Chatham tweeted during the game that one of the most important things for the offense is getting 5+ yards on the ground on first down. Ridley was just getting chunks, you put yourself in second and third and managable and you're going to have success. The drive ate up about 7 minutes of clock as well. That's what I'd like to see from this offense this season. The whole run/pass ratio has been beaten to death, Brady's strange post season play, but that opening drive against Tampa was amazing. Keep that going and we'll roll.
Defensively, Spikes was a monster blitzing. I don't know anything about the Bucs o-line but he was flying. What Brandon Spikes brings on first and second down I think is invaluable. Chandler looked like a beast. That run stuff was awesome. Good to see Logan Ryan get a pick six as well. We'll see what happens when the starters suit up for a little longer on Thursday. This team is exciting and I hope they take the "they didn't believe we could do it" attitude like Rodney had.
I agree with Chatham, but against the good front 7s, which is what TB's is, if we come out with the spread, we never even have a chance to establish the run.
You have to commit to the run vs the better front 7s, because it opens up the playbook.
That's been my whole argument here for years. I can tell if we might lose a game just by how we come out early in the game on offesnse. I am not kidding you.
We play with fire when we use finesse vs a good or great front 7, and we usually lose, with everyone coming running in to blame our D, which is beyond old at this point.
I can look at our schedule right now and tell you the teams we can throw on with shotgun spreads and it not be a huge factor.
Bills and Jets? Sure. No problem. Neither team has much of a pass rushing strength and they have sketchy LBs and DBs.
@ Atlanta? We must run the ball early and often in that game and we might win it. If we don't, we will likely lose it.
To me, it's so simple. You up your odds to win with a larger playbook at the disposal of a Tom Brady.
Subbing in your RB to pretend to run in the 3rd qtr is too easy to tell what is coming and you cannot establish a run from the shotgun either.
Ridley/Bolden (75% use, hammer the rock, only sub these guys on and off if they need a rest, but use them the same)
Vereen/Blount (25% use or in specific situations like shotgun spreads or wrinkles)*
Now, that doesn't mean I don't want Vereen in there as a slot WR against an LB.*
Great point about the ATL game. That is gonna be a huge road game and I agree, they need to go in there and hit them in the mouth. This team cannot be out physical'd in big games anymore. That has to be a point of emphasis.
The Seattle game last year is the perfect example. D played sketchy at times, gave up big pass plays, but our offense pissed that one away and Brady threw upwards of 60 times with the lead. Our defense in the third Q was getting to Wilson, I believe Jones had 2 sacks and Vince may have had one as well. They were put in bad situations. A lot of people will look at the D being in base in the final minute of the fourth, but against Lynch, and a running QB you take your chances. I look at the fact that we ran for close to 300 yards against Denver and then turned around to throw it 55 plus against a defense who is close to the best in the league against the pass.
This team is BUILT to run the ball with a great stable of 5 backs (Ridley, Blount, vereen, Bolden, and tebow) that can pound the rock... Behind a massive and gelling OL, TE group.
Brady is older and slower. HAND THE BALL OFF. It just makes so much sense. Preserve the guy. Go back to the glory days of Dillon and Weis. Any QB is better off with a good running game. the defense benefits too by taking time off the clock, shortening the game. The pass happy offense had its day when it was new and different. The shotgun would dominate certain teams.
Now teams are built to stop it. San Fran mauled Welker and Lloyd at the line and got away with it. the pass rush finished the job. Other teams like Seattle copied, etc. And there was no plan B. Weis always had a plan B, or C and made game plan changes in real time. Pass happy got predictable.
This team is showing signs of getting past their stale tendencies. The tight end dominant offense was the first step in that direction. Now a more dominant run offense can be the final piece to the puzzle, and it will be great to see.
BB seems to be stacking this team in the right places. This could be another epic year for the ages. Gotta love this team . It is definitely not boring.