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Barring a disturbance at venue, I am not a fan of bicycle cops roaming around public places looking to start problems at 2 AM.    This is the kind of stuff that can happen.  For those of us who actually leave our homes, we can vouch for it. lol

The trial is over tomorrow.  Like I said, I expect a fine and community service tied to resisting arrest.

Always entertaining rusty.  those pesky bicycle cops starting trouble, everybody vouch for rusty.  no? he must be referring to the royal "we".

When you leave your basement let me know when you a pack of bicycle cops roaming around a venue at 2AM.

Not the best idea, as suggested by this incident. We have one cap, clearly bored, looking to make arrests for no reason. There was no fight, nothing wrong, but the cop made something go wrong, didn't he?

"fighting stance". lol

All I can think of is that movie Men At Work. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5SxhL-QVU0

I have done my share of clubs, tampa's ybor district is lots of fun, but I am happy to have any/all police presence.  Then again, I wasnt part of the shady element down there. If you fear law enforcement, you obviously have something to hide.  I always make sure to thank an officer even when being given a driving citation.  I guess I am one of those people that respects a person that puts their life on the line for the safety of others.  Seem to be in the minority here...

I don't disagree, troll. I think cops have difficult jobs, I respect them and don't envy them. But, the smaller town cop attitude does exist and those are the ones who usually seem to have the problems. It's very rare big city cops or the professional state troopers find themselves in these kinds of he said/she said situations. They have other things to worry about. Like, real crimes.

Drunk kids outside of a club isn't something new.  Cops looking to make arrests are usually the ones who have the problem, not the citizen.  They should be out fighting other battles on the taxpayer's dime.

Sending in bike cops sounds incredibly dumb to me.  I live in a city and see bike cops but you never see them circling around a bar at 2 AM, bored, looking to provoke an arrest.

Bike cops are good for creating a street presence, not for making sure drunk kids leave the bar quietly at 2 AM. Dumb.

what do you suggest(cant beleive I am asking you this...)?  Watch Denard beat someone to a pulp?  He wasnt hanging out/loitering.  When an officer gives you an order to stop, you stop. He isnt going to grab denards hand and make him punch someone.  Werent you the one that was saying it was okay to not obey the officer because he was a plain clothes officer?  Maybe that was another ignorant bastid on this board, maybe rickey retardo.

I'll be honest, if I heard someone say stop late at night outside a club, I am not sure I do stop especially if I am minding my business which I do. What is this Nazi Germany with a halt call in the alley?

Like I said, the probable cause aspect by the cop sounds weak to me. A "fighting stance"? I mean, seriously? Who gets into a stance if they're involved in a fight?  It sounds fabricated.   And if there was no fight, why is there an arrest?

We'll see. There was no fight according to witnesses from what's been reported. Alos, the person who threw the punch wasn't reported to definitively be Dennard either.

Lots of inconsistencies in what happened.

Normally, an assualt on a police office is on camera, tons of witnesses confirm it or there is physical evidence like sratches, bruises or other injuries.

Sounds like a resisting of being cuffed to me with a cop trying to be a big shot.

Wow.  Russ the civil libertarian.  Never knew you were that person.  You a member of the ACLU?

But hey, if Ray Lewis can get off, surely Dennard can, right?

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police are a joke now.....it used to mean something when you were a cop. now it means absolutely nothing....most of them now are corrupt and do nothing but eat donuts and get fat all day. and they wonder why some of the fugitives get away. the fat a.ss cops cant catch em! this isnt all cops, there is still plenty who do a terrific job....but i wouldnt say this cops' actions surprise me one bit.

To be fair, not all true. I actually think the bice cop thing is very effective in the day and good for a presence effect.

If they really wanted to show force at that bar, they'd have a paddy wagon sitting out there as kids were going into that bar.

Don't just show up on freaking bikes after kids have been drinking, etc, where it's more likely to have a confrontation.  Just dumb management.

I actually prefer a police presence because it keeps he riff raff out and things go peacefully.  Everyone has a good time, no issues, etc. 

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police are a joke now.....it used to mean something when you were a cop. now it means absolutely nothing....most of them now are corrupt and do nothing but eat donuts and get fat all day. and they wonder why some of the fugitives get away. the fat a.ss cops cant catch em! this isnt all cops, there is still plenty who do a terrific job....but i wouldnt say this cops' actions surprise me one bit.

To be fair, not all true. I actually think the bice cop thing is very effective in the day and good for a presence effect.

If they really wanted to show force at that bar, they'd have a paddy wagon sitting out there as kids were going into that bar.

Don't just show up on freaking bikes after kids have been drinking, etc, where it's more likely to have a confrontation.  Just dumb management.

I actually prefer a police presence because it keeps he riff raff out and things go peacefully.  Everyone has a good time, no issues, etc. 

i guess, i mean i dont mind police being around....but it just seems like there have been too many cases where police have just been made to look fools and/or bullies.

Depends on how well department is run. If it's run well, you don't see this kind of stuff occurring.  If it's not run well, you see stuff like this. It almost smells like this is a known Husker bar, they send out some officers at closing time and look to get some notoriety.

And I am not absolving Dennard here either. No need to be overreating in a crowd after some drinks. 

police are a joke now.....it used to mean something when you were a cop. now it means absolutely nothing....most of them now are corrupt and do nothing but eat donuts and get fat all day. and they wonder why some of the fugitives get away. the fat a.ss cops cant catch em! this isnt all cops, there is still plenty who do a terrific job....but i wouldnt say this cops' actions surprise me one bit.

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police are a joke now.....it used to mean something when you were a cop. now it means absolutely nothing....most of them now are corrupt and do nothing but eat donuts and get fat all day. and they wonder why some of the fugitives get away. the fat a.ss cops cant catch em! this isnt all cops, there is still plenty who do a terrific job....but i wouldnt say this cops' actions surprise me one bit.

Don't know which department you're referring to nor what level of exposure you've had to law enforcement and therefore I'll state that up front.  What I do know is what my experience has been as someone who works in partnership with law enforcement on a daily basis.  And my experience is totally inconsistent with what is in the above post.  Are there bad cops?  Absolutely. However, most of the ones I work with are highly professional, decent men and women and are not at all like what you describe.  Just my perspective.

With respect to the Dennard matter, I think anyone that's been in a crowded bar at closing time knows how occasionally chaotic it can be and that's what appears to have been the case here.  I would also add is that often one man's punch is another man's shove. 

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police are a joke now.....it used to mean something when you were a cop. now it means absolutely nothing....most of them now are corrupt and do nothing but eat donuts and get fat all day. and they wonder why some of the fugitives get away. the fat a.ss cops cant catch em! this isnt all cops, there is still plenty who do a terrific job....but i wouldnt say this cops' actions surprise me one bit.

Don't know which department you're referring to nor what level of exposure you've had to law enforcement and therefore I'll state that up front.  What I do know is what my experience has been as someone who works in partnership with law enforcement on a daily basis.  And my experience is totally inconsistent with what is in the above post.  Are there bad cops?  Absolutely. However, most of the ones I work with are highly professional, decent men and women and are not at all like what you describe.  Just my perspective.

With respect to the Dennard matter, I think anyone that's been in a crowded bar at closing time knows how occasionally chaotic it can be and that's what appears to have been the case here.  I would also add is that often one man's punch is another man's shove. 

true, obviously not everyone's experience/view on cops will be the same. if you have dealt with highly professional cops, than thats great. i havent had any run ins with the law per say, but just seeing things happening around me makes me wonder how clean they really are. obviously, as rusty stated above, it depends on the department.

and @godverment, i am white and live in a suburban area. i still dont like the way some police conduct themselves. so i mean, there are exceptions in what you said in the first paragraph.

that's true. the overall consensus is never absolute. but in general the community of LA has a much more negative outlook of law enforcement than say those of tilton, NH. same for dorchester, brockton vs weston/sidbury. 

i hope his defense team is better than the one he plays for...