Re: Anyone Remember Samuel on Lelie 2005 Divsionals?
posted at 11/20/2013 11:34 PM EST
In response to Harvey-Wallbanger's comment:
In response to TripleOG's comment:
Nothing to discuss really. I def. remember it. I was sick that game because our D was posting a shutout and Brady had only one WR, who was a hobbled branch and the Broncos were playing that 11 man up defense because our Chitty Wrs couldnt get seperation and that overated Bum John Lynch was in Bradys face early.
Its the Anti - BB agenda. What else could it be? The only way the Pats are gonna EVA win another SB is to leave no doubt and blow a team out. As long as its close, the refs will be able to effect the outcome so its not good enough to hang around and try to win in the end. We need to blow that team out when the opp. presents itself again. They have the talent and coaching but unfortunately our last 2 SB losses were more to do with being outcoached cuz we had better teams both times it seems based on reg. season records.
I agree. EVer notice how the calls start coming when we have a lead or a chance to win it? That's my furstration. Beat my team fair and square, no problem. But, this interference and shaping by the refs is really disturbing to see happen every other week.
No lie, a buddy of mine a Vikes fan asked me yesterday..."what is it? What did the Pats do to have these last play of a game calls go against them?" I didn't even bother answering. I know the answer and there is nothing we can do about it, except for get to a SB and then blow the opponent out. I agree. It's the only way to defend against the refs trying to do things to get teams back into a game or make it hard on the Pats.
Remember the Houston playoff game last year on that Hightower roughing or the Mayo strip of FOster with that fake quick whistle? We were blowing them out! That got them back into it!
This has been going on in various forms for years and years and years.
I mentioned the phantom pick by Troy in the 2006 AFC title game before half. Remember that one? We were steamrolling down the field again for a FG or TD before half and Troy went back to the huddle smiling but CBS never showed the penalty. Translation? There wasn't a penalty. Indy was about to be run off the field in their own building and the refs started finding ways to change that.
Same deal on the "faceguarding" on Hobbs. There is no "faceguarding" in the NFL. Hence, the letter sent to the Pats after the game to "apologize". Why does this seriously only happen to us?
I never see such egegious things on a consistent basis with other teams. Never.
I am just not buying it anymore that these are coincidences. Remember the pick play by slot WR Steve Smith on Meriweather on that last drive in SB 42? Not called. It gave them that 1st down to keep going.
I realize that's a final drive of a SB, but why is it all the obvious calls that go against us, somehow are not enforced in our favor?
This whole "revenge for the Tuck Rule" is a joke, too. Since 2005 and Goodell's arrival, I can literally name a dozen famous plays that are beyond sketchy. Throw in the Spygate punishment, all the added rules that are essentially due to our team, with the media not really reporting fairly on the facts or what the rule changes mean or how they were devised, and we've got a massive conspiracy going on here.
We know the Pats winning a SB again would do many things:
1. It's bad for business.
2. The media would have to all come out and crown BB/Brady as the best ever, unequivocally, which is clearly something they don't want to do.
I fully get every team experiences bad calls, but why is our team on the back end of such egregious calls all the time with the game on the line? That's my question. It's not so much experiencing the call, but WHEN it is called and how frequent it is on an annual basis.
You're right in that the blowout has to be there, because the lack of integrity with Goodell and his instructions to refs for Pats games is definitely a factor. This is why I've been defending our D in an offensive era lately, too. We don't win the close games, partly due to officiating changing momentum on us.
Baltimore last year? That was a missed FG. Plain as day by the rule but the refs just ran off the field.
I remember last year when the replacement ref admitted they are told not to call anything on Hail Mary's. That proves they are ordered in some way, at certain times to call plays in a certain way.
GB got hosed, Seattle, an up and coming team Goodell wants to see win it all, gets the benefit of the fraud win, which could shape playoff seedings which it did.
Goodell does not want dynasties or repeat SB winners. He's trying to control things to the T in terms of how the league shakes down. The second a soup du jour teamm surfaces, that team is favored by the refs. This week? Carolina got it.
Remember most of those plays... Especially the troy brown phantom PI in 2006... I taped it and played it back.... there was nothing and it was within the 5 yards anyway... Then the PI in the sssb42 steve smith, pathetically obvious and blatant. goodells ties with the Jets make me sick. seems like conflict of interest , then the penalty for the spygate... what...?
It's getting hard to watch... almost expecting something biased or corrupt to happen.
THe jets game call and the panthers game call kind of go together. The jets game really pissed me off , which made this call worse... the FG call was letter of the law (stupid) and the PI non=call was ignoring letterof the law altogether (stupid)... common denominator pats get screwed both times both ways.
It is statistically inconsistent forming the pattern of corruption. It's real. I just hope that it is more just human nature to root for the underdog kind of stuff, instead of deliberate conspiracy. Either way its wrong... and sickening to be a fan and think of the lombardis , the draft picks and the money that were stolen from this team for some azsholes agenda.