Aqib Talib and the AFC contenders.

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    Aqib Talib and the AFC contenders.

    I have not watched enough tape of Talib, but the first thing I thought of when we got him was NYG. Didn't watch the game, but I do know both Cruz and Nicks went off on the bucs defense.

    THIS GUY IS NOT A SHUT DOWN CORNERBACK.

    That being said, he doesn't need to be. There are 5 teams (1 being the pats) are almost virtually a lock for the playoffs. Next to them, I've listed their top 2 receiving threats.

    Baltimore- Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin

    Houston-Andre Johnson, Owen Daniels

    Steelers- Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace

    Denver- Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker

    Don't expect Talib to shut down guys like Thomas, Brown, Wallace, and maybe Andre...but outside of these guys, those teams don't have strong receivers.

    Talib doesn't need to be great, he just needs to not suck

     

     
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    Re: Aqib Talib and the AFC contenders.

    One could argue there are no shutdown corners in the NFL. If there are then they are just a handful. Good QBs and their receivers are going to get their yards. I don't care who's covering them. That said, Talib should be a good signing.

     
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    Re: Aqib Talib and the AFC contenders.

    Well, the defense clearly needs some help w/ either pass coverage or pass rush - glad BB is taking a chance.  Only time will tell if the deal is helpful or not.

    I would have preferred a DE/OLB who could have met Jones productivity, but this will do.

     
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    Good point, he doesn't have to be great...he just can't suck. When you think about it, we have been winning with guys that DO suck, so getting a guy that doesn't would be a boost this team hasn't had on defense in a while.

    I really think for this defense to be at a level that will win us a Super Bowl a couple of things will need to happen. For one we will need Hightower to be a guy that can do multiple things for us...rush, cover and be a big run stuffer on the edge. I also think we will need someone to be able to pass rush from the inside - they wanted Fenene to do it - it didn't happen, I think if Pryor could do it, it would be huge. They needed a corner...hopefully they have one now. And they need Dennard to play like a second round talent, because all these second round secondary players haven't.

     
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    Re: Aqib Talib and the AFC contenders.

    In response to dapats1281's comment:

    I have not watched enough tape of Talib, but the first thing I thought of when we got him was NYG. Didn't watch the game, but I do know both Cruz and Nicks went off on the bucs defense.

    THIS GUY IS NOT A SHUT DOWN CORNERBACK.

    That being said, he doesn't need to be. There are 5 teams (1 being the pats) are almost virtually a lock for the playoffs. Next to them, I've listed their top 2 receiving threats.

    Baltimore- Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin

    Houston-Andre Johnson, Owen Daniels

    Steelers- Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace

    Denver- Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker

    Don't expect Talib to shut down guys like Thomas, Brown, Wallace, and maybe Andre...but outside of these guys, those teams don't have strong receivers.

    Talib doesn't need to be great, he just needs to not suck

     



     

    daPats, every time I've seen him play, he has impressed me as a big corner who can both play physical and cover. It's just that he's a world-class d!ckk.

    Hopefully, being around the Patriots organization...


    We'll see.

     
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    In response to anonymis' comment:

    Well, the defense clearly needs some help w/ either pass coverage or pass rush - glad BB is taking a chance.  Only time will tell if the deal is helpful or not.

    I would have preferred a DE/OLB who could have met Jones productivity, but this will do.




    Any news on Andre Carter;-)

     
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    Re: Aqib Talib and the AFC contenders.

    In response to rameakap's comment:

    In response to anonymis' comment:

    Well, the defense clearly needs some help w/ either pass coverage or pass rush - glad BB is taking a chance.  Only time will tell if the deal is helpful or not.

    I would have preferred a DE/OLB who could have met Jones productivity, but this will do.




    Any news on Andre Carter;-)



    he signed with oakland wasnt it

     
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    Re: Aqib Talib and the AFC contenders.

    In response to dapats1281's comment:

    I have not watched enough tape of Talib, but the first thing I thought of when we got him was NYG. Didn't watch the game, but I do know both Cruz and Nicks went off on the bucs defense.

    THIS GUY IS NOT A SHUT DOWN CORNERBACK.

    That being said, he doesn't need to be. There are 5 teams (1 being the pats) are almost virtually a lock for the playoffs. Next to them, I've listed their top 2 receiving threats.

    Baltimore- Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin

    Houston-Andre Johnson, Owen Daniels

    Steelers- Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace

    Denver- Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker

    Don't expect Talib to shut down guys like Thomas, Brown, Wallace, and maybe Andre...but outside of these guys, those teams don't have strong receivers.

    Talib doesn't need to be great, he just needs to not suck

     



    I wouldnt base Talibs whole body of work on one game. After all in that game he had 8 solo tackles and 4 passes defensed. We have CBs that dont have 4 PD's all year! Also Manning threw for 394 of his 510 yards on blitzes. Quick releases, can't put all that entirely on the DB's. Might not be a hsutdown corner but I think he is an upgrade over what we have.

     
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    Re: Aqib Talib and the AFC contenders.

    In response to Quagmire3's comment:

    In response to dapats1281's comment:

    I have not watched enough tape of Talib, but the first thing I thought of when we got him was NYG. Didn't watch the game, but I do know both Cruz and Nicks went off on the bucs defense.

    THIS GUY IS NOT A SHUT DOWN CORNERBACK.

    That being said, he doesn't need to be. There are 5 teams (1 being the pats) are almost virtually a lock for the playoffs. Next to them, I've listed their top 2 receiving threats.

    Baltimore- Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin

    Houston-Andre Johnson, Owen Daniels

    Steelers- Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace

    Denver- Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker

    Don't expect Talib to shut down guys like Thomas, Brown, Wallace, and maybe Andre...but outside of these guys, those teams don't have strong receivers.

    Talib doesn't need to be great, he just needs to not suck

     



    I wouldnt base Talibs whole body of work on one game. After all in that game he had 8 solo tackles and 4 passes defensed. We have CBs that dont have 4 PD's all year! Also Manning threw for 394 of his 510 yards on blitzes. Quick releases, can't put all that entirely on the DB's. Might not be a hsutdown corner but I think he is an upgrade over what we have.



    ding diing ding! we have a winner.

    hes the best corner on our team instantly.

    and may help us win a sb if we keep him out of trouble.

    so i wouldnt p@@ p@@ it too early.

    man i didnt know p@@ was such an offensive word......

     
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    Re: Aqib Talib and the AFC contenders.

    In response to Quagmire3's comment:

    In response to dapats1281's comment:

    I have not watched enough tape of Talib, but the first thing I thought of when we got him was NYG. Didn't watch the game, but I do know both Cruz and Nicks went off on the bucs defense.

    THIS GUY IS NOT A SHUT DOWN CORNERBACK.

    That being said, he doesn't need to be. There are 5 teams (1 being the pats) are almost virtually a lock for the playoffs. Next to them, I've listed their top 2 receiving threats.

    Baltimore- Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin

    Houston-Andre Johnson, Owen Daniels

    Steelers- Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace

    Denver- Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker

    Don't expect Talib to shut down guys like Thomas, Brown, Wallace, and maybe Andre...but outside of these guys, those teams don't have strong receivers.

    Talib doesn't need to be great, he just needs to not suck

     



    I wouldnt base Talibs whole body of work on one game. After all in that game he had 8 solo tackles and 4 passes defensed. We have CBs that dont have 4 PD's all year! Also Manning threw for 394 of his 510 yards on blitzes. Quick releases, can't put all that entirely on the DB's. Might not be a hsutdown corner but I think he is an upgrade over what we have.



    I think that is the point... He is an upgrade (skill wise at least) over the guys we have been putting out there. He cannot practice with (or even report to) the team until after the Buffalo game. My only concerns are that he is in good enough shape after five weeks off and can learn the defense fast enough to contribute.

     
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