Re: Are the Packers racist
posted at 11/21/2011 8:38 AM EST
In Response to Re: Are the Packers racist
In Response to Re: Are the Packers racist : Technically I said that what that gentleman suffered was the worst of what the black community had to offer. I am fully aware that blacks can be racist, I've suffered racism from all races (Black, white, Asian, Indians and Hispanics). I know how terrible people can be, but what I meant by African Americans can't oppress caucasian is that it's a Caucasian nation. Yes, ghetto black people (equivalent of trailer trash) are terrible, but I still don't see how they can keep you from being anything in life. Many on these boards just sound like overprivileged kids who are mad that they have to share. Really now, someone said that quotas are keeping white kids out of college even though nearly 8/9 of the kids in college are caucasians. Someone also said, I pray they were joking, that the fact that 22 percent of the coaches in the NFL were black that it meant that blacks are over-represented. Mind you, 65% of NFL players are black. Come on, reading these comments, can you not see why Affirmative Action is still in place? Can you not see why I say that an African American can't oppress a caucasian? We have people who think that 1/9 of colleges being minorities, not even black, is too much. We have people who think that 2/10 of all NFL coaches being black is too much. Come on, how can you expect me to see things in the same light as some of these people? You, I can respect, we grew up similarly. I grew up poor as sh*t too in a neighborhood mixed with Italians, Polish, Blacks, Hispanics and Indians (East Indians, not Natives), we all got along fairly well. You could hear the racism walking around the wrong neighborhood though, but it never bother me. I always kept a diverse group of friends so I know how to relate to other cultures. I might have misspoken when I said a black person can't oppress a white person, what I meant is that a black person can't keep a white person from moving up in socio-economic class status like some of the, I will assume, caucasians on the board would if they were in positions of powers. I'll hold my race to myself, but no, I'm not of caucasian descent. =)
Posted by 49Patriots
Ok that's fair enough. But, as far as the college goes when a vast majority of citizens in the country are of white ancestry then I would expect that they would have a high percentage in college as well.
I don't think it's the white race that's keeping black kids out of college I actually think it's the black race itself. To hear me out on this is that many of my black friends went to college because the community I grew up it pushed hard for education and to have us make something of ourselves. I remember an old lady who would give us candy if we got A's on our report cards. It's all community and family driven whether a kid gets to college our not now a days. Not based on skin color.
Even my black friends who go back to our old neighborhood say how much it's changed and they don't think they would have made it out if they grew up in the same conditions as what's happened to where I grew up. There are plenty of other cultures that have risen above cultural stereotypes and have done well for themselves. Percentage wise Muslim, Indians, Asian, and Africans (legal immigrants either just immigrated or 1st gen Americans) have all excelled and have high showings in the work place and schools compared to population percentage. So what is keeping multi-generation blacks and Hispanics behind? I don't think it's racism anymore, I think it's this us verses them and they are oppressing us mentality that some of them carry. It's funny the ones I work with who have become success have told me they never thought anyone was out to get them, that it was always up to them as far as they wanted to go. I'm sure at points they had to work harder to overcome stereotypes but they never complained and did what they needed to succeed. To me is all distills down to the community, culture, and family. Those with a strong up bringing succeed and those who are taught to blame others and see oppression and faults when there really might not be don't. I find that incredible sad and imo if there was less focus on race and racism in general and more focus on how any culture or race can improve itself from within that racism would eventually be reduced to the part where it's meaningless. But, allowing perception and looking for racism as a crutch only serves to strengthen the stereotypes further