Are the Patriots quitters for not putting in 60?

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    Are the Patriots quitters for not putting in 60?

    Having just worked through the Shaughnessy thread, I noticed a few comments about the Pats not playing 60 minutes.  In fact, this was apparent earlier in the season (e.g. Jets game).  Another poster mentioned last week that he had stats to prove that the Pats were the best team for the first three quarters.  During the Miaim game (yesterday), a statistic was flashed, indicating that the Pats did not do well at the end of quarters/halves.  Ultimately, I could not help but notice that the team has been setting a nasty pattern of being up and letting down.

    So, are the Pats not putting in 60 (minutes)?  If they aren't, they could easily be labeled as...(gulp) quitters, like it or not.  Personally, I never thought I see this trait from a BB team.  The fact that it's happened early on and as the season wanes, might indicate that there are some problems with this team that extend beyond coming up short a few points.

    Honestly, if the team can't play hard for 60, then they are lost.  How/why do fans get criticised for jumping on the team for not playing hard?  Ironically, Brady just came out this week with a similar criticism.
     
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    Having just worked through the Shaughnessy thread, I noticed a few comments about the Pats not playing 60 minutes.  In fact, this was apparent earlier in the season (e.g. Jets game).  Another poster mentioned last week that he had stats to prove that the Pats were the best team for the first three quarters.  During the Miaim game (yesterday), a statistic was flashed, indicating that the Pats did not do well at the end of quarters/halves.  Ultimately, I could not help but notice that the team has been setting a nasty pattern of being up and letting down. So, are the Pats not putting in 60 (minutes)?   If they aren't, they could easily be labeled as...(gulp) quitters, like it or not.  Personally, I never thought I see this trait from a BB team.  The fact that it's happened early on and as the season wanes, might indicate that there are some problems with this team that extend beyond coming up short a few points. Honestly, if the team can't play hard for 60, then they are lost.   How/why do fans get criticised for jumping on the team for not playing hard?  Ironically, Brady just came out this week with a similar criticism.
    Posted by BTownExpress


    True.  Their motto used to be "60-Minute Men", but nowadays, I guess they're into quickies and nooners....lol.
     
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    Having just worked through the Shaughnessy thread, I noticed a few comments about the Pats not playing 60 minutes.  In fact, this was apparent earlier in the season (e.g. Jets game).  Another poster mentioned last week that he had stats to prove that the Pats were the best team for the first three quarters.  During the Miaim game (yesterday), a statistic was flashed, indicating that the Pats did not do well at the end of quarters/halves.  Ultimately, I could not help but notice that the team has been setting a nasty pattern of being up and letting down. So, are the Pats not putting in 60 (minutes)?   If they aren't, they could easily be labeled as...(gulp) quitters, like it or not.  Personally, I never thought I see this trait from a BB team.  The fact that it's happened early on and as the season wanes, might indicate that there are some problems with this team that extend beyond coming up short a few points. Honestly, if the team can't play hard for 60, then they are lost.   How/why do fans get criticised for jumping on the team for not playing hard?  Ironically, Brady just came out this week with a similar criticism.
    Posted by BTownExpress


    Maybe they can get Drew Brees, Troy Polamalu, Mario Williams, Antonio Gates, and company to come help them as part of the Play-60 campaign.
     
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    Re: Are the Patriots quitters for not putting in 60?

    If, in fact, there is a problem getting New England Patriots to play 60, what do you beieve has gone wrong?  Is it the personnel, coaches, and/or the current state of the system?

     
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    Re: Are the Patriots quitters for not putting in 60?

    60 minutes for sure.after that its hard to figure out.maybe they come into some games thinking they will win hands down.or they just dont make the adjustments through the games like all the other teams do.
     
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    If, in fact, there is a problem getting New England Patriots to play 60, what do you beieve has gone wrong?  Is it the personnel, coaches, and/or the current state of the system?
    Posted by BTownExpress


    It's mental toughness.  Everybody is tired at the end of the game.  Everyone feels the pressure of the moment.  Some are able to block out the distractions and focus on the task at hand.  This Patriots team is not mentally tough.
     
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    Re: Are the Patriots quitters for not putting in 60?

    Has anyone considered the possibilty that mental toughness is sparse due to the ridiculously strenuous training camp they had this year?
     
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    Re: Are the Patriots quitters for not putting in 60?

    They are defiantly playing a full 60 minutes.  The problem is they really suc k during the last 30 minutes.
     
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    Has anyone considered the possibilty that mental toughness is sparse due to the ridiculously strenuous training camp they had this year?
    Posted by DynastyXXXVI


    I'll assume a level of sarcasm was contained that surely fills in the rough spots around your response.  After all, training camp was far, far away.   Of course, there should be no excuses here.  A BB team should not lack the effort for the duration.  If it does, then we have a big problem, Houston.
     
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    They are defiantly playing a full 60 minutes.  The problem is they really suc k during the last 30 minutes.
    Posted by K-max


    Are you reading from a teleprompter?

    Of course, the later half of your offering indicates that they are not going full steam for the duration.  Point made.
     
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    Re: Are the Patriots quitters for not putting in 60?

    Well the coach is only coaching for 30 minutes, so it follows suit that the players wouldn't complete 60. Have we seen a half-time adjustment this year? We HAVE, by every team playing us...
     
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    Re: Are the Patriots quitters for not putting in 60?

    It has a lot to do with them losing a lot of team leaders over the last few years. Rodney, Teddy, Vrebel, Troy to name a few. No one has really stepped up to fill those leadership needs. The kind of money they paid Thomas and he brings nothing. Moss is a great play but I'd hardly call him a team leader.
     
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    Well the coach is only coaching for 30 minutes, so it follows suit that the players wouldn't complete 60. Have we seen a half-time adjustment this year? We HAVE, by every team playing us...
    Posted by jedinate


    Very good point...other teams are making adjustments; Pats are forcing the same bits that aren't working, as the opposition gets back into the game.

    Honestly, I never thought I'd see a BB team not play hard.  This type of cancer can ruin any team.  Ironically, most (if not all) of the players are aware of the reputation in NE for winning; running a tight ship.  It's just plain wierd to have to point out that they are not putting in 60.  Perhaps, this started a few years, ago, when they seemed to have stopped playing hard against the Giants in the second half of the SB...as though it continues to ripple through the franchise.
     
     
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