Re: Are the Pats needs for next season that COMPLICATED???
posted at 1/30/2013 5:41 PM EST
In response to PatsEng's comment:
In response to prolate0spheroid's comment:
Their needs aren't so complicated, but filling them may be because they don't have a lot of draft picks and the salary cap will limit what they can do in free agency. Signing Talib, Welker, and Vollmer (if they decide to re-sign those three) could eat up a large percentage of their remaining cap room leaving little money for additional quality free agents. As I see it, between draft and free agency, the Pats need five or six quality players at five positions:
- Right tackle (Re-sign Vollmer?)
- Corner (Re-sign Talib?)
- WR (ideally need two--Welker maybe, plus another quality receiver)
- DL (Tackle, though this may wait a year since Wilfork, Love, and Deaderick are all signed I believe)
- Safety (unless Steve Gregory is the answer)
Not as urgent maybe, but they could also improve quality at Center/Guard if the right player came along, at LB (need an OLB who can cover), and (lower down the list, I think) DE.
They also need to strengthen their back-ups at corner, safety, DL, and maybe tackle, LB, and WR (in addition, several of their current back-ups, like Arrington and Donald Thomas, are free agents, so they risk losing some players as they try to build depth). I believe they also need to sign Ballard who is an exclusive rights free agent or possibly get a decent third TE if they don't sign Ballard.
RB and QB are probably the only positions that are okay as is, though even there they need to figure out whether re-signing Woodhead makes sense.
Needs aren't hard to figure out -- filling them, though, presents challenges when you only have four draft picks and there's a salary cap to worry about.
The cap I'm not to worried about. They are actually one of the best teams setup for the cap going into the offseason given how many players on the roster are currently under contract and how much room they have. They don't have to release a single player can resign everyone and still have enough space add a couple of starting caliber players.
The draft on the other hand, they don't have a lot of room to move or make a ton of picks. given that at least 1 of the first 3 won't provide anything (BB's average lately, which is still better than almost anyone in the league) you really are looking at adding 2 players to contribute this year. Thankfully I don't think the needs are that complicated this year. IMO you are really looking at a handful of players:
Coverage SS/LB - Wilson could or couldn't develop into this player but with McCourty moving to FS all we really need is someone who can hit like a S version of Spikes but has enough ability to cover TE's and RB's
CB - Resigning Talib should be a priority after that they still need a #3 slot CB if Dennard is going to be your #2. I'm not sure there are many who have faith in Arrington being the main backup to both Talib and Dennard nor do many have faith that Ras can last a season so that leaves us with a big question mark. If they bring in a 3rd CB pushing Ras and Arrington into more of nickel/dime roles I'd think we'd all be more comfortable
Interior rush - Lets face it Nink was better then most thought and Jones is only going to get better. The true weak spot on the line is right next to Wilfork. Love and Deadrick are nice subs but nether could take advantage of playing next to one of the most dominant NT's in the game. We really need to upgrade the interior rush before looking for an edge rusher
WR - we just need someone different then quick slot guys who can get yac. Some people think we need a deep threat but, imo, I see the need for a big body to fight at the line. To me if they can get downfield it's icing but games where the WR core disappear it's because Gronk is out and the DB's are physical at the line. I've seen many smaller deep threats get taken out by simply punching them at the line. I'd rather give up the speed to get a fighter who will hit back then have a large catch radius so Brady doesn't have to be exact, he can toss it up and let the WR get it. I'd be ok letting Welker go if we bring in a top flight WR who brings something different to the receiving core
OL - adding depth but this years OL was pretty solid. You can always upgrade the RG or C position but resources are better allocated elsewhere. If something drops into their laps that's one thing but I'm just looking for depth at this point
Exterior rush - As I said I'd want to upgrade the interior rush first but if an upgrade to Nink/Scott is around and reasonable then I'd take a hard look. But, the cost of upgrading that spot might be more then the overall benefit received compared to upgrading the need positions first
Given the cap space and draft picks we should have enough of each to fill all of the above but we'll have to see.
as ive had it since the draft thread came out. but i moved dt down on my list late in year with the dearth of picks we have
i think our highest and next to highest and next to next to highest (ie its not close) is elite pass rushing de. next big outside wr who can separate and catch, and a big, fast cb; then yeah safety is a big need (i suggested picking up in fa, along with pass rusher (i dont see much of a stud available at 29), better o line starter, cover lb., upgrade at dt. are these canadian kids any of that, hard to say at this point, maybe depth.
consistent pass rush (with the front 4) is necessary.
then having 2 big starting cbs talib, someone ot go with talib, dennard and dowling 3 and 4.
on offense we've been stopped for years against better des not having a torrie smith or other (a big outside wr who can separate with reliable hands) . good offenses often have 2 good outside wrs. we have not had one since moss (lloyd cannot separate and falls on the ground every time he catches a pass). we need at least one.
a tough safety who can cover and stay healthy is needed (and i want it this offseason), but wihtout another real pass rusher (and cb and outside wr),we may look at another year with no brady sb win.