In response to TFB12's comment:
In response to pcmIV's comment:
TFB12 you need to chill out bro. There is nothing factually incorrect in my last post despite you calling me a liar. Amusingly you admitted as much in your response. If you think that comparison was a bit lazy fine, but so was your assumption that the Patriots could have signed Goldson to a heavily backloaded contract. I used the cap hits this year because I know Goldson's cap hits are not backloaded.
From an AAV perspective the Goldson contract is more than the combined AAV of all of the low risk/high reward signings like Wilson and Kelly you are complaining about. The point was that you can't just say you would dump all of the small contracts and replace it with Goldson. The math doesn't work. You can disagree all you want but don't call me a liar.
Did I really call you a liar? I went back and looked and couldn't see where I called you a liar.
You are comparing apples to oranges. It doesn't matter the total value of the contract, they wouldn't have been in cap hell if they did sign Goldson for the same money the Bucs did, which was the whole point of your post. You don't compare front loaded contracts to back loaded contracts, why would you do that unless you just didn't take the time to do the research, just didn't think about that, or trying to push your agenda.
No part of your agument makes sense. The Pats could have signed Goldson, back loaded his contract like they did with Kelly, Amendola, Arrington and A. Wilson. Heck, could have not even signed Wilson so that would have saved cap space right there. So no, once again signing Goldson would not have been an problem with the Patriots cap.
Sure the Pats would have had to pay for him, that's what you have to do to get good players, and no, he wouldn't have been the low risk/ high reward type which BB likes to get, but he would have been a very, very good player for the Patriots for many seasons ahead instead of an older player who will possibly be gone next season, if he doesn't get cut this season, and then have to find another player all over again. Probably another low risk/high reward types.
Cap hell? I thought that didn't exist?
YOU SAID BB should have gone after Goldson or a Glover Quin type, each of whom jumped at the first and highest bids to whichever team came calling. Do you really think the Detroit Lions have a great shot at a SB in the next couple years? I don't. Do you think Glover Quin wants to win?
Same with Goldson. TB had a ton of cap room so that meant they could outbid anyone. GOldson thinks TB, in a division with a rising TB or Carolina, and NOs still good, will win the SB soon, while he just was in on last year with a more complete team right now.
So, now you're backpedaling away from your orginal, whiny statement about how BB should be spending Goldson money ,deviating from his tried and true salary allocation formula by saying they could afford his bloated deal and still manage their books well past 2013? It's a flat cap! Have you seen what our QB makes?
Go look at the 20 million dollar QB teams. GB, NOs, Balt, Denver, etc..Guess who has the best built time now and beyond? Us! We do!
Wait until Revis comes due again and he starts his games down in TB. Good thing TBs QB does not make 17 million like ours does, though huh?
You can't buy up every FA when you need it every other year. That's what the Jets did!
How can you babble so incessantly on concepts you can't grasp, now backpedal and lie, and then act like you are not in the wrong here?
You're wrong. 99.9% of the time when you open your yap on these more in depth concepts, YOU ARE WRONG.
tfb thinks the pats should jump on every hi priced free agent , and when we don't BB is a lousey gm.