Arrington signed to a 4 year contract

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    Bottom line is the best available corner in Sean Smith signed with KC @ 3/18mil.  I don't see why Pats wouldn't be able to pay even that to Talib, if not for a little less.  I can't see how Pats would lose out on Talib, unless Pats never really wanted him back. 




    I really wanted that Sean Smith pick up, at that price too.  Let's see what happens with Talib.

     
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    Good....just keep him away from the outside corner spots

     



    pretty much. As a slot guy he's pretty good. I'd rather of had Cason as an upgrade but just as long as Arrington isn't on the outside I'll take it. We still need Talib. What I'm scared of is even with Talib the secondary wasn't the best and I was hoping with the amount of talent out there and the reason contracts signed that we could have upgraded Arrington

     

     




    with talib out there, the pats pass defense was much improved...even in the baltimore game, before talib got hurt, they were shutting down the ravens offense. once talib went out, they had marquice freakin cole playing on anquan boldin at times...id say that was advantage ravens. i agree that their secondary depth was bad last year, but i cant disagree more with the premise that they were a bad secondary with talib out there. it just isnt true, talib improved that secondary drastically, which is why so many of us want him to be back.

     



    They were the worst secondary without Talib and he brought them up to average to slightly above average secondary but he's only one man. I wanted him back but I would have liked to add a Lewis or Cox or hopefully (still possible) a Cason instead of just bringing back Arrington and Talib, but they still have the draft (Mathieu?) and Cason is still available so hopefully they don't just resign Arrington and Talib and call it a day with the CBs

     
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    Honey Badger is 5'8" and between 176 and 186 lbs. He benched 225 4 times. He is a poor tackler. The Pats just signed Arrington to play nickle. What would they need with this Honey Badger who is a borderline NFL CB? If the Pats sign Emanual, they lose their 3rd. Unless they trade out of the first or 2nd, they have very, very few choices. You want them to choose this guy?

     
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    Good....just keep him away from the outside corner spots

     



    pretty much. As a slot guy he's pretty good. I'd rather of had Cason as an upgrade but just as long as Arrington isn't on the outside I'll take it. We still need Talib. What I'm scared of is even with Talib the secondary wasn't the best and I was hoping with the amount of talent out there and the reason contracts signed that we could have upgraded Arrington

     

     




    with talib out there, the pats pass defense was much improved...even in the baltimore game, before talib got hurt, they were shutting down the ravens offense. once talib went out, they had marquice freakin cole playing on anquan boldin at times...id say that was advantage ravens. i agree that their secondary depth was bad last year, but i cant disagree more with the premise that they were a bad secondary with talib out there. it just isnt true, talib improved that secondary drastically, which is why so many of us want him to be back.

     

     




    The main thing that has killed from seriously winning 1, maybe 2 SBs the last 2 years is their starting and best pass rushers or secondary guys weren't avaialbel when we needed them.

     

    We win SB 46 if Carter doesn't get hurt in Denver. I said it when the injury happened, because I knew it would be a roll of the dice with Anderson playing 3 downs. They almost had it, which makes the 4th qtr from Brady and Welker so maddening.

    I am telling ya, they're not far off. This whole media attack on BB is completely uncalled for off a lockout.

    He rebuilt the base brilliantly and is now capping it off with vets at very cheap prices based on the market.

    Some of our fans simply didn't like his approach or strategy, but expect deep SB runs in 2013, 2014 and maybe even 2015.

     



    its no secret why players are lined up to visit foxboro and see if they can work out the deal.

    people are going to think what they want, but there isnt a better owner/coach tandem in sports than kraft and BB, and that #12 is pretty good too!

     
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    Honey Badger is 5'8" and between 176 and 186 lbs. He benched 225 4 times. He is a poor tackler. The Pats just signed Arrington to play nickle. What would they need with this Honey Badger who is a borderline NFL CB? If the Pats sign Emanual, they lose their 3rd. Unless they trade out of the first or 2nd, they have very, very few choices. You want them to choose this guy?



    He plays much bigger then his size and who's behind Arrington, Ras? They need to build depth and Mathieu would be a good way to build that depth

     
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    1. 1hMike ReissMike Reiss @MikeReiss

      Patriots and CB Kyle Arrington have an agreement in principle on a four-year contract, per source.




    NOOOOOOO! 4 years!!  I dont know if I like this. Not in an offseason where you could possible get Talib and Asoumouah(sp). I think this is BB being cheap again and sticking with a sytem player. Other than toughness and tackling ability I really dont see why they would lock him up. He came on late in the year but was getting burnt the 1st half of the year (IN THE SLOT). I was hoping we would get 2 LEGIT outside CBs that are around 6 ft and kick Dennard inside but I guess not.  I swear they better not have given him more than 3 mill/year. Must be a down year cuz Carey Williams got paid and a few posters mentioned him and he s*cked last year too! When LLoyd has his best game of the season and Brady attack you all game, you are not worth 6mill/year!  Wow,,,Im def. confused now as to what consititutes a "good" CB!  smh

     
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    Good....just keep him away from the outside corner spots

     



    pretty much. As a slot guy he's pretty good. I'd rather of had Cason as an upgrade but just as long as Arrington isn't on the outside I'll take it. We still need Talib. What I'm scared of is even with Talib the secondary wasn't the best and I was hoping with the amount of talent out there and the reason contracts signed that we could have upgraded Arrington

     

     




    with talib out there, the pats pass defense was much improved...even in the baltimore game, before talib got hurt, they were shutting down the ravens offense. once talib went out, they had marquice freakin cole playing on anquan boldin at times...id say that was advantage ravens. i agree that their secondary depth was bad last year, but i cant disagree more with the premise that they were a bad secondary with talib out there. it just isnt true, talib improved that secondary drastically, which is why so many of us want him to be back.

     

     



    They were the worst secondary without Talib and he brought them up to average to slightly above average secondary but he's only one man. I wanted him back but I would have liked to add a Lewis or Cox or hopefully (still possible) a Cason instead of just bringing back Arrington and Talib, but they still have the draft (Mathieu?) and Cason is still available so hopefully they don't just resign Arrington and Talib and call it a day with the CBs

     



    i definitely agree that it would be nice to see them get another cb besides talib, whether it be in free agency or in the draft.

     
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    1. 1hMike ReissMike Reiss @MikeReiss

      Patriots and CB Kyle Arrington have an agreement in principle on a four-year contract, per source.

     




    NOOOOOOO! 4 years!!  I dont know if I like this. Not in an offseason where you could possible get Talib and Asoumouah(sp). I think this is BB being cheap again and sticking with a sytem player. Other than toughness and tackling ability I really dont see why they would lock him up. He came on late in the year but was getting burnt the 1st half of the year (IN THE SLOT). I was hoping we would get 2 LEGIT outside CBs that are around 6 ft and kick Dennard inside but I guess not.  I swear they better not have given him more than 3 mill/year. Must be a down year cuz Carey Williams got paid and a few posters mentioned him and he s*cked last year too! When LLoyd has his best game of the season and Brady attack you all game, you are not worth 6mill/year!  Wow,,,Im def. confused now as to what consititutes a "good" CB!  smh

     




    he is a versatile guy and can move to different cb positions if need be....BB loves players like arrington, slater, fletcher, etc....guys that love playing on special teams and can be moved around.

     
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    I like this. Arrington is not the answer at starting CB, but he's a versatile fifth DB, a good depth guy, and an excellent special teamer (almost at Slater's level in kick coverage).  We still need a starting corner though.

     

     
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    1. 1hMike ReissMike Reiss @MikeReiss

      Patriots and CB Kyle Arrington have an agreement in principle on a four-year contract, per source.

     




    NOOOOOOO! 4 years!!  I dont know if I like this. Not in an offseason where you could possible get Talib and Asoumouah(sp). I think this is BB being cheap again and sticking with a sytem player. Other than toughness and tackling ability I really dont see why they would lock him up. He came on late in the year but was getting burnt the 1st half of the year (IN THE SLOT). I was hoping we would get 2 LEGIT outside CBs that are around 6 ft and kick Dennard inside but I guess not.  I swear they better not have given him more than 3 mill/year. Must be a down year cuz Carey Williams got paid and a few posters mentioned him and he s*cked last year too! When LLoyd has his best game of the season and Brady attack you all game, you are not worth 6mill/year!  Wow,,,Im def. confused now as to what consititutes a "good" CB!  smh

     

     



    LOL

     

    You're wrong. BB is right.

    I bet it's like a 2 mil per type deal which is great for a quality nickel of the next 3-4 years. Check it off the list.

    Sign Talib and it's he and Dennard making up arguably as good a starting duo in the AFC.

    You are in the minority here on this one. 

     

     



    Thats fine with me. Im glad everyone wants to retain the guys that contributed to our 29 and 30th ranked pass D the last 2 years. People forget how bad this guy is because he played well at the end of last year vs Miami and Buffalo. He played adequate in the slot  and I dont consider him excellent. If he comes at the price of 2 mill/year thats fine but with all these better CBs going for real decent money I would have liked to move on from him but hey! Its not a deal breaker. I think I'll still be a pats fan so no worries!  :)

     
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      Patriots and CB Kyle Arrington have an agreement in principle on a four-year contract, per source.

     




    NOOOOOOO! 4 years!!  I dont know if I like this. Not in an offseason where you could possible get Talib and Asoumouah(sp). I think this is BB being cheap again and sticking with a sytem player. Other than toughness and tackling ability I really dont see why they would lock him up. He came on late in the year but was getting burnt the 1st half of the year (IN THE SLOT). I was hoping we would get 2 LEGIT outside CBs that are around 6 ft and kick Dennard inside but I guess not.  I swear they better not have given him more than 3 mill/year. Must be a down year cuz Carey Williams got paid and a few posters mentioned him and he s*cked last year too! When LLoyd has his best game of the season and Brady attack you all game, you are not worth 6mill/year!  Wow,,,Im def. confused now as to what consititutes a "good" CB!  smh

     

     



    LOL

     

    You're wrong. BB is right.

    I bet it's like a 2 mil per type deal which is great for a quality nickel of the next 3-4 years. Check it off the list.

    Sign Talib and it's he and Dennard making up arguably as good a starting duo in the AFC.

    You are in the minority here on this one. 

     

     



    your wrong as usual. he signed 4/$16

     
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    I like this. Arrington is not the answer at starting CB, but he's a versatile fifth DB, a good depth guy, and an excellent special teamer (almost at Slater's level in kick coverage).  We still need a starting corner though.

     



    thank you! 5th DB! That doesnt equate to playing the slot though. Thats make him a backup to the dime. He is probably gonna get paid and be playing nickel. No knock on him but just feel we can upgrade and do better and where is all this special teams value if he starting the last years???  Can someone please post his special teams tackles total the last 2 years and show me this great value???  I dont recall him making an impact since he has joined the starting defense...

     
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    WOW! WOW WOW

     

    MichelleBeisner Kyle Arrington remains a Patriot. Per source close to the situation deal is as follows: 4 yrs - 16 mill - 8.5 guaranteed

     
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    Bottom line is the best available corner in Sean Smith signed with KC @ 3/18mil.  I don't see why Pats wouldn't be able to pay even that to Talib, if not for a little less.  I can't see how Pats would lose out on Talib, unless Pats never really wanted him back. 

     




    I really wanted that Sean Smith pick up, at that price too.  Let's see what happens with Talib.

     

     




    Smith isn't better than Talib.  I don't think BB thinks so either.

     




    Tell me that when Talib is out again for the playoffs!!

     
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    4/$16mil  wow that's a lot for Arrington. Not to happy about that one actually. Much rather would of had Lewis or Cox for that extra 1mil per year or see what Cason would get because I don't think it would have been much more then that

     
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      Patriots and CB Kyle Arrington have an agreement in principle on a four-year contract, per source.

     




    NOOOOOOO! 4 years!!  I dont know if I like this. Not in an offseason where you could possible get Talib and Asoumouah(sp). I think this is BB being cheap again and sticking with a sytem player. Other than toughness and tackling ability I really dont see why they would lock him up. He came on late in the year but was getting burnt the 1st half of the year (IN THE SLOT). I was hoping we would get 2 LEGIT outside CBs that are around 6 ft and kick Dennard inside but I guess not.  I swear they better not have given him more than 3 mill/year. Must be a down year cuz Carey Williams got paid and a few posters mentioned him and he s*cked last year too! When LLoyd has his best game of the season and Brady attack you all game, you are not worth 6mill/year!  Wow,,,Im def. confused now as to what consititutes a "good" CB!  smh

     

     



    LOL

     

    You're wrong. BB is right.

    I bet it's like a 2 mil per type deal which is great for a quality nickel of the next 3-4 years. Check it off the list.

    Sign Talib and it's he and Dennard making up arguably as good a starting duo in the AFC.

    You are in the minority here on this one. 

     

     

     



    your wrong as usual. he signed 4/$16

     

     



    Well, that's not 5 million and only 8.5 million is guaranteed.  I am right as usual.  I wanted him here for 2 more years before the cap jumps. He doesn't get hurt, so it's likely he plays t lasgt 2 years and probably into 2013, with his potential of being cut in 2016.

     

    Great signing and good dispersion of the dollars.

    Hey, how are the Jets doing RKarp? Can you give us an update on their cap situation and if its down to 25 million yet?

    LMAO

    Hey, I noticed they resigned LEx Luther for FB and signed hot prospect RB and Raiders cast off MIke Goodson.

    Wow!

    They're really attracting FAs there huh? Deep draft in 2010 = BOTCHED

    Deep FA MARKET in 2013 and 2014 = NO CAP ROOM

    Cannot be made up. It's almost like the Jets tried to be the worst managed team in cap history and succeeded. LOL city!



    didnt you just say;
    LOL

     

    You're wrong. BB is right.

    I bet it's like a 2 mil per type deal which is great for a quality nickel of the next 3-4 years. Check it off the list.

     

     

     
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    I like this. Arrington is not the answer at starting CB, but he's a versatile fifth DB, a good depth guy, and an excellent special teamer (almost at Slater's level in kick coverage).  We still need a starting corner though.

     



    Agree on all points. THough I would describe Arrington as Star position which is specific and requires a bit different set of coverf skills. He is pretty good at that and not so much at traditional corner. Though I always wonder with this team how much the players are hurt by the current DB coaches. Wish we could trade those coaches for some gatorade. Or maybe pay the Jets to use those coaches.

     

     

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