Re: Assault/military style weapons - what we can do to control them
posted at 12/19/2012 8:51 AM EST
In response to AZPAT's comment:
1) Across the USA, there are over 20,000 gun rrstriction laws. I'm guessing that this mental midget broke 20,500 of them. Just guessing.....
2) Chicago and Washington DC, yes, the seat of outr cfederal gov t, have the toughest gun ownership restrictions in the country. Yet, those streets have turned into the OK Corral and High Noon on Main Street. Why's that?
3) Connecticut has some of the toughest gun ownership laws in the country, yet this happened with legally owned/purchased/obtained weapons. Why's that?
4) It's clear to just about everyone that the real issue is the CULTURE of having a gun, and for what purpose. Yet, it seems that leftists want to ban guns (Tut, tut! It all STARTS with "assault rifles". Where's it end?). What causes this "culture"? All the shooters were young, male, and "gamers". Hmmmm....ban those video games like Assassin (1-15)? There is no reset button i n life. Then, we can go after those violent movies. Now, don't even begin to give me stuff about "voilating the rights of those innocent people that own these games and go to these movies". Too hypocritical.
5) What do we do next IF all guns are confiscated or banned? Seems to me we need to apply the "Well, they're going to do it anyeway...... " theory of raising a kid (related to booze, birth cntrol, ectc) to gun wnership too.
6) If they run out of guns or get to over 35,000 national laws, what's next? Motor vehicles, seeing that they kill more than guns do on an annual basis? After all, the best way to protect ourselves, especially our kids, is to get rid of the instrument, right?
A gun lying there all by itself does NOT kill anyone. Only irresponsible people (to themselves, their families, or to mankind in general) are using guns as weapons against humanity. Why's that? Find out the cause and fix it. No need to punish the innocent gun owner or the legal purchaser. Why punish the entire school of kids because Littel Johnny, Jimmy, or Sally (equal opportunity, ya know) decided to knowingly break a school rule and bring a water pistol to school?
Now, for the record, I am NOT a gun owner. It just seems strange that leftists cried that the Patriot Act punishes and took rights away from the innocent Americans NOT involved in terrorism, and whine aboiut intrusive airport searches as a violation of someone'[s rights. Yet, they seem perfectly OK with violating some folks rights over more "feel good" legislation proposals.
First of all your label of "leftist" or "liberal" etc:
(1) attempting to use labels as a way to denigrate is the language of bigotry. That is thought and reason are abandoned to the positions of "us" and "those idiots" or "those evil people".
(2) there is not a monolithic set of positions held by those whose positions are generally to the "left" of center
(3) and this is a key point - EVERY RIGHT YOU HAVE limits the rights of others and visa versa. For example, your right to free speach does not give you the right to slander and defame (there are legal concepts here which establish what is slander and what is protected speach). Similarly your freedom to own, carry and use a firearm has its limitations because of the rights of others. So all rights have limitations. The interesting, often emotionally charged issues occur when one person's rights conflict with other people's rights. THe simple result is that there is no absolute right and so we must find reasonable, ethical places to draw the lines.
With guns this is not a left v right issue though simplistic journalists report it as such.