Re: Back to the o-line
posted at 10/8/2012 8:17 AM EDT
In response to rkarp's comment:
In response to TrueChamp's comment:
In response to DelGriffith's comment:
Yes, Miller allows 250 yards off the edge on a D and he "dominated". Not to mention a myriad of 3rd down conversions and an all time record for a Pats offense for 1st downs.
Yes, VOn Miller "dominated".
Do you get paid to be a moron? I'd actually somewhat respect that if you did.
Dumervil and Miller, two of the league's best on the edge, did next to nothing and guess what? Our O Line didn't hold on every play like Denver's did?!
My god, are you a raging moron.
[/QUOTE Miller made some plays, but im willing to bet Fox wasnt very happy with a defense that got GASHED by the run and 10 yard passing routes to WW, Lloyd and Gronk! O ine
First, on Miller. He had 8 tackles, 5 for loss. He had 2 sacks. He had 5 hits on Brady. He was past Vollmer at will. You can say that 250 yards were on Miller, but I would say he dominated.
i would also say that Fox thought his defense gave the Pats a short field 3 times, and were in a position in the 4 th quarter to make it a game. I would also say that Fox thinks this loss is on his offense with their turnovers.
Regarding the o line. I actually draw the analogy of the o line to Ridley. Ridley rushed for 150 yards. But he fumbled at a crucial point in the game, and was put on the bench. The oline allowed the team to rush for 250 yards, but Vollmer had a very tough game, as did Wendell. Like the one play fumble, the 4-5 plays Wendell was beaten, and the over all rough day for Vollmer must be the focus if the o line is to continue to improve. I assume Vollmers day can be excused for going up against very tough match up in Miller. One can assume that might be Vollmers worse day of the year. Wendell on the other hand has had 3 poor games now. Interesting to see how the C position unfolds as the season progresses.
i find it funny, that many on this board can't see flaws and errors past the 250 yards, and against playoff caliber teams, these flaws are huge. The Pats are winning and that is the bottom line. But these issues need to be fixed to get to the ultimate goal.
great post, lots of o-line issues to discuss but I believe they are a work in progress. Miller is a stud def. player. fast strong and brings a great pass rush. Run blocking was fine all night but worried about the size in the middle. I would love to see cannon work on playing guard along with mankins but with Vollmer we may need him to stay at tackle. Center might be a draft day decision.