Re: Ban Rusty Pact
posted at 6/10/2013 11:12 PM EDT
In response to TexasPat's comment:
In response to prolate0spheroid's comment:
I agree it wasn't a great draft. I'm not Rusty. I think BB is a good drafter overall, but not the best ever and maybe not even the best active now. But inexcusably poor is an exaggeration. Vollmer alone saves the draft, never mind the pick used for Gronk the next year.
RESPONSE: Surely you jest. The pass-rusher that the team had been thirsting for, more than a guy that's been stranded in the desert for a week thrists for a glass of water...fell to him, in Clay Matthews. Jarius Byrd, the safety that could have filled the Death Valley hole in the Pats D also fell to him. But instead, BB choose Patrick Chung. Mike Wallace could have been the deep threat WR that's been so lacking in this offense...but instead BB chose Brandon Tate.
Hindsight is 20-20. There's an element of luck involved in any draft. The prize could be behind door number two or door number three. If it happens to be behind door three, this doesn't necessarily make the guy who picked door two a bad chooser or the guy who picked door three a good chooser. It's merely luck. Certainly Chung looked every bit Byrds' equal as a safety coming out of college (Byrd and Chung played in the same backfield at Oregon, with Chung a safety and Byrd a corner, and Chung was arguably the more accomplished). Wallace was the 11th WR selected, so it's not like his talent was obvious. And Matthews wasn't widely thought to be as good as he turned out to be. Expecting BB to somehow predict that all those guys would exceed expectations and guys like Chung would fall short is a bit unrealistic.
To say that selecting Vollmer at #58 "saved" the draft is absurd...especially when one considers how Vollmer's career has been slowed by a chronic back problem. As for "the Gronk Pick" excuse, Gronk surely could still have been had via a trade up, in 2010. The Pats had plenty of picks available in the 2010 draft.
Sorry...but BB missed a golden opportunity to cure the main ills on this team...all in that one draft, in 2009. Had those picks had been made, the Pats likely would have won another SB. In addition, making the right picks in 2009 would have impacted future drafts. For example, with Byrd in hand, it's doubtful that BB would have felt the need to reach for Tavon Wilson, and/or Duron Harmon.
I didn't like the Matthews trade either, but no one expected Matthews to be quite as good as he turned out. If people had known, he would have been a top 10 pick.
RESPONSE: This is no excuse. As GM, it's BB's job to be right when he makes his picks. Instead, the trade-down netted the Pats nothing. No GM no matter how good is close to 100% right with his picks. You are like a guy who criticizes a .360 hitter for not hitting .870.
On DB picks, I tend to agree that BB has wasted a lot of mid round picks trying to gamble on finding an overlooked diamond. He probably would have done better (in my opinion) to package a few picks and trade up for quality. But hindsight is 20-20 and trading up would have reduced picks, which may have hurt them in 2010 when the extra pick helped them get a haul.
RESPONSE: Wasted mid-round picks?? FS Brandon Meriweather (1st round - 24th overall in 2007), CB Terrence Wheatley (2nd round - 62nd overall in 2008), CB Darius Butler (2nd round - 41st overall in 2009), CB Ras-I Dowling (2nd round - 33rd overall in 2011). Tavon Wilson (2nd round - 48th overall, 2012).
You have to look at this thing holistically rather than focusing on individual moves. That's the only way to fairly judge drafting ability, because individual moves are frequently abberations from the norm. You need to look at the whole picture over multiple years to really understand success or failure.
RESPONSE: I have done this previously on several occasions...listed all the top 100 failed selections BB has made, since 2006. BB's draft selections have been his Achilles heel. Even the polite, non-confrontational Mike Reiss has suggested that it's time for BB to hire a draft consultant.