Re: BB Continues To Be A Trailblazer
posted at 5/2/2013 2:38 AM EDT
In response to patsbandwagonsince76's comment:
In response to 42AND46's comment:
1. the NY Giants have been drafting the same way since Young through Young/Parcells to Ernie Accorsi and now Jerry Reese and it's been the same through your sacred cap era as it was before-and it's to this day the same way Bill Bellichick drafts players and builds a roster...he is applying a "formula" that existed before he was a GM and one the Giants were oh so coincidentally using when he coached here
It is interesting the Giants had 0 playoff appearances between 1964-1980.
Then in 1980-1990 they had 13 playoff games and 2 SB's!!
Guess who arrived in 1979 and left in 1990...not Bill Parcells, he came in 1981 after the team had turned around...it was Bill Belichick who ushered in the new era for the Giants.
The last few years of BBs tenure Tom Coughlin arrived and smartly soaked up as much as he could of Belichicks ways.
So you seriously think anyone would believe the Giants drafted the same way in the two periods:
1964-1980 -- 0 playoff games
1980-1990 -- 13 playoff games, 2 SB's ??
What were the Giants most known for in this time ...there superior LB's...hmm who was the linebacker coach??
They started drafting better because of the arrival of BB!! You know BB , the linebacker coach at the time Lawrence Taylor was drafted.
BB made the Giants and now you of all people are denying the league is not emulating him?
not only is this wrong and rife with silly connections that wont hold up to history but you sound like bellichick's agent - or worse rusty!
bb made the giants! hahahaha-priceless...no george young and bill parcells made the giants as everyone but some patsies fans seem to know
see they picked the players -not bellichIck-and parcells was the head coach-not bellichick-and they assembled a staff that included such nobodies as crennel weis fox coughlin payton- but it was bellichick who "made" the team-the other coaches were just hanging around- i guess bellichick coached offense and special teams too...oh boy
oh and belllicheck the DC? great job, glad we had him, brilliant- but do you seriously think bill bellichick is the only DC who could coach the talent young and parcells assembled? life is sweet when u have the greatest lb of his gereration and such nobodies as guys named carl banks, pepper johnson, george martin, harry carson, leonard marshal, jim burt etc....parcells and young loaded that team for bellichick on defense-who did a great job with it
i mean how do you think bellichick learned how to draft and put a team together in the first place? oh thats right learning from young and parcells- i love the idea how they started drafting better once bb got there-hahahahaha...yeah george young was gonna have his linebacker coach tell him who to draft! that include the offensive players too? the punter?
and yeah it took bellichick to tell young to draft the greatest lb prospect since dick butkus-suuure it did -just like only bellchick could have coached him
when i said draft the same way i meant since young got there-1979 not 1960- if u read what i have posted here about 50 times...bellichick drafts just like young and parcells: you draft depth, you take the best players available regardless of position unless specifically addressing an immediate need, you take versatility and football IQ over talent...sound familiar? sure it does, it's the way bellichick watched young and later both young and parcells build a champion-hell bellichick even deals with injuries and the media just like parcells except parcells had personality bellichick is wooden...as i have said before the "patriot way" is a helluva lot the "parcells way" on and off the field
and ur coughlin point? oh man i just gotta hear what he learned from bellichick since he worked the other side of the ball and bellichick wasnt a gm or hc - i mean what the hell are u talking about? the only thing coughlin "learned' from bellichick was how to beat him-and you think bb might have then learned from coughlin?
and last since bellichick himself called parcells a "mentor" why exactly have we even been having these silly conversations?
its as simple as it's always been:
1. bellichick=great coach and gm, hall of famer, one of the best ever and very glad and proud he was a Giant
2. No Parcells=No Bellichick
PS: ur other post said the idea of a coaching tree doesnt matter (paraphrasing)? now really u think that all those guys coming from the same head coach/organization all having success in this league is a coincidence? all of them? kinda of also shoots down any idea parcells isnt a great leader/teacher and that bellichick wasn't among those who benefitted from it right? i mean when so many go on to success you gotta look at where they came from-if only one- say bb -was thats different but fox coughlin payton bellichick crennel weis..whats the common denominator?
PARCELLS THE MASTER!!