BB Continues To Be A Trailblazer

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    ok so what we're saying is that Belichick really isn't the two tight end trendsetter. 

    That's all.

     




    Well, I think in this era and with the Gronk and Hernadez picks, he's rekindled it.  Look, you can be jealous all day like Gunty is here, when you try to discredit or tone down BB's trailblazing approaches, but I can make a list of 10 unique things in terms of tweaking ideologies on offense or defense that literally he's done by his lonesome.

     

    One example is the trade for Welker and now Welker is arguably the best slot WR anyone has ever seen. 

    He's incredibly creative, while most teams are just trying to build a team that makes the playoffs in successive years.

    I'll take your feeble attempt to counter as a backpedal and concession. lol

     

     



    If the jealousy resides anywhere its with you.  A statement is made and refuted with proof.  I don't find anything either jealous or regressive with that.  If you do, maybe you are the one who is sauced. 

     

    Your jealousy is demonstrated by your incessant attempts to cover up and/or deflect from the mistaken statement. 

    The Welker thing was done before too.  Brandon Stokely anyone?  Wallowed in Baltimore until he was made a star in Indy.  Thanks for once again ascribing something to Belichick that was done not too long before by the colts.  Maybe Belichick is like the Japanese of the 80's - inventors of nothing, but recreator extraordinaire. 

     




    Umm, Troy Brown or even Wayne Chrebet were doing it LONG before Brandon Stokely.

     

    LOL

    Every time you attempt to showcase a trailblazing moment for the Colts, I can counter with ease.

    Keep trying.

     


    I have not claimed trailblazer status for anyone.  That's you, pumpkin, but nice trying to put that on me.  Not very smart are you?  

    Read slowly and twice for understanding.  I was simply supplying facts to refute your claims.  

     
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    ok so what we're saying is that Belichick really isn't the two tight end trendsetter. 

    That's all.

     




    Well, I think in this era and with the Gronk and Hernadez picks, he's rekindled it.  Look, you can be jealous all day like Gunty is here, when you try to discredit or tone down BB's trailblazing approaches, but I can make a list of 10 unique things in terms of tweaking ideologies on offense or defense that literally he's done by his lonesome.

     

    One example is the trade for Welker and now Welker is arguably the best slot WR anyone has ever seen. 

    He's incredibly creative, while most teams are just trying to build a team that makes the playoffs in successive years.

    I'll take your feeble attempt to counter as a backpedal and concession. lol

     

     



    If the jealousy resides anywhere its with you.  A statement is made and refuted with proof.  I don't find anything either jealous or regressive with that.  If you do, maybe you are the one who is sauced. 

     

    Your jealousy is demonstrated by your incessant attempts to cover up and/or deflect from the mistaken statement. 

    The Welker thing was done before too.  Brandon Stokely anyone?  Wallowed in Baltimore until he was made a star in Indy.  Thanks for once again ascribing something to Belichick that was done not too long before by the colts.  Maybe Belichick is like the Japanese of the 80's - inventors of nothing, but recreator extraordinaire. 

     




    Umm, Troy Brown or even Wayne Chrebet were doing it LONG before Brandon Stokely.

     

    LOL

    Every time you attempt to showcase a trailblazing moment for the Colts, I can counter with ease.

    Keep trying.

     

     


    I have not claimed trailblazer status for anyone.  That's you, pumpkin, but nice trying to put that on me.  Not very smart are you?  

     

    Read slowly and twice for understanding.  I was simply supplying facts to refute your claims.  

     




    Yes you did. You did it twice. Once with Pollard/Clark at TE and now with Stokely before Welker came here.

     

    I read just fine thanks and I enjoy calling out your blatantly obvious agenda.



    Wow - I can't get anything by you can I?  Can you show me exactly where I said the colts were trailblazers?  By the way can you define an era?

     
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    So how is BB trailblazing again? By committing some of the biggest reaches in recent draft history?

     
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    "I think you have the Bill's as# backwards. BP never won a SB without BB. BB won three without BP."

     

    BINGO!

     




    oh I get it now

     

    Because Bellichick was the D Co he couldn't possibly have learned anything watching Parcells, listening to Parcells, seeing how Young and Parcells drafted and developed players and built a championship team, he never ever asked either of them a question, nope none of that-Bellichick performed as a DC in a soundproof bubble miles away from any contact with Parcells and Young-hell on Sundays he wasn't ever on the sidelines he was locked in an underground vault on game days

    And of course none of the other Parcells coaches who went on to create one of the most successful coaching trees in NFL history learned anything from Parcells either, it's all just one of those strange coincidences the way this played out

     

    I got it now thanks for clearing that up 

    oh boy...



    parcells was a great coach and i obviously respect what he did for the giants and for his whole career, but you saying that BB learned everything from parcells is just absolutely ridiculous. yes, parcells most certainly helped out BB, but BB isnt a successful coach just because of parcells.

     
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    "I think you have the Bill's as# backwards. BP never won a SB without BB. BB won three without BP."

     

    BINGO!

     




    oh I get it now

     

    Because Bellichick was the D Co he couldn't possibly have learned anything watching Parcells, listening to Parcells, seeing how Young and Parcells drafted and developed players and built a championship team, he never ever asked either of them a question, nope none of that-Bellichick performed as a DC in a soundproof bubble miles away from any contact with Parcells and Young-hell on Sundays he wasn't ever on the sidelines he was locked in an underground vault on game days

    And of course none of the other Parcells coaches who went on to create one of the most successful coaching trees in NFL history learned anything from Parcells either, it's all just one of those strange coincidences the way this played out

     

    I got it now thanks for clearing that up 

    oh boy...

     




    Of course he learned things from Parcells. Did we say he didn't? In fact, SMART people learn things through their life from ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE.

     

    That aspect is what makes some morons on this board so ignorant.

    It's like some peopel are so afraid to learn from others here. They just lash out instead, embarrassed and then go on to deflect to protect their own personal agendas.

    Not everything in life is so black and white. There's a lot of grey. 

    But, to form a premise that when there is a moutain of evidence that doesn't favor Parcells, but favors BB, is preposterous.

    Even our Indy troll who hates BB and the Pats, would admit BB>Parcells as a coach and GM.

    Parcells wasn't even  a good coach for Dallas for crying out loud. The game passed him by.

    He was a GREAT HOF coach with the Giants and did a great job helping build up a quality foundation here with the Pats as a coach and a guy who helped pick SOME draft picks. But, he was never the GM here. It's why he left!

     

     

     




    Don't bother expaining to Jints , he is ignoring the facts and going along with the assumption that because Belichick worked for Parcells he was not the key contributor. If you look at the areas BB was in charge of under Parcels you see where the real football IQ was.

     

    Yes, I do think BB learned a lot about team managment from Parcels, but the key eye for talent and defensive scheming is what differentiated those Giants teams and those were all BB. You could say Parcels is a member of the BB coaching tree and it would be more accurate.

     
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    Don't bother expaining to Jints , he is ignoring the facts and going along with the assumption that because Belichick worked for Parcells he was not the key contributor. If you look at the areas BB was in charge of under Parcels you see where the real football IQ was.

     

    Yes, I do think BB learned a lot about team managment from Parcels, but the key eye for talent and defensive scheming is what differentiated those Giants teams and those were all BB. You could say Parcels is a member of the BB coaching tree and it would be more accurate.


    A fair minded person would admit any DC would look good with LT playing for them.

    Without LT and TB where the hell would BB be?

     
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    Don't bother expaining to Jints , he is ignoring the facts and going along with the assumption that because Belichick worked for Parcells he was not the key contributor. If you look at the areas BB was in charge of under Parcels you see where the real football IQ was.

     

    Yes, I do think BB learned a lot about team managment from Parcels, but the key eye for talent and defensive scheming is what differentiated those Giants teams and those were all BB. You could say Parcels is a member of the BB coaching tree and it would be more accurate.

     

     


    A fair minded person would admit any DC would look good with LT playing for them.

    Without LT and TB where the hell would BB be?

     



    LT was old and limited in 1990, actually, and BB's genius gameplan vs a lethal Buffalo offense built by Polian, stymied the Bills and helped the Giants win it all.

     

    Every time you try to diminsh BB, I'll be here to slap you silly.




    31 is old now nutjob? Was 1990 the only year BB had LT?

    Cherry pick away Mad Hatter.

     
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    Parcells without Belichick has a sub 500% record.

    Within one season of Belichick arriving to coach defense for Parcells, all his teams became winner or were in the Super Bowl within a season.  

    Happened in 86' with the Giants, happened in 96' when Belichick came to New England, happened with the Jets in 98.'

    The real architect of the Giant's coaching tree was Ray Perkins, not Parcells (also it was Perkins who drafted LT btw)... Parcells was a colorful character, a good team builder, hired the right people but Belichick has surpassed him and proven to be the real defensive genius of those early teams.

    This isn't even up for debate...

     
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    Re: BB Continues To Be A Trailblazer

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    please show me all the coaches the Giants have hired away from the Pats, 



    The New Jersey Giants started by hiring another Bill Parcells alum as their head coach.  The head coach sets all the policies.  You can say that HC Tom Coughlin didn't work dirctly for BB but it's a pretty close football bloodline.  BB down in Foxboro often liked the offensive linemen that the Boston College Eagles produced, because Coughlin could give him the inside scoop.  Good job on the Giants' part!  The Giants are a respectable 106-86 in the 192 regular season games of this century, so it's not like they want to pawn the family jewels tomorrow for a castoff Patriots defensive coordinator.  Baltimore got Dean Pees.

    The Giants thought about signing WR Julian Edelman away from the Patriots last month.  He went over for a visit on April 3, 2013.  Good try. 

     
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    The notion that Belichick learned the game solely from Parcells and that his success is based on what he learned from Parcells is incorrect. I am fairly convinced that BB learned from a wide array of coaches not the least of whom are Steve Belichick and Ted Marchibroda for starters.

     
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    Amazing.  My comment to Babe gets removed but yet he can run amok here namecalling and provoking with every comment and not get chastised for it.  What a joke.

     
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