In response to BabeParilli's comment:

Oh that's right, one man team. The other 30 or so regulars are just mediocre. Does Brady also block and catch?

Put Sanchez on the 49ers and Ravens and they don't make the playoffs either. That was too easy.

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Listen to yourselves some of you.  You expect BB to be #1 at everything, and anything else is failure by your ridculously high standards that were -- get this -- set by BB himself.  That BB can't replicate the success of the early 2000's is not a surprise.  Spoiled, spoiled, spolied.  Some of you think superbowls grow on trees and you forget that the Pats were a play or two away from two more superbowl wins.  They got there, and they are competitive year in and year out.  Most any franchise in the NFL would gladly take the success NE has had.  

Put Sanchez on the 49ers and Ravens and they don't make the playoffs either. That was too easy.

In response to CablesWyndBairn's comment:

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Listen to yourselves some of you.  You expect BB to be #1 at everything, and anything else is failure by your ridculously high standards that were -- get this -- set by BB himself.  That BB can't replicate the success of the early 2000's is not a surprise.  Spoiled, spoiled, spolied.  Some of you think superbowls grow on trees and you forget that the Pats were a play or two away from two more superbowl wins.  They got there, and they are competitive year in and year out.  Most any franchise in the NFL would gladly take the success NE has had.  

Exactly!

The NFL draft has to be the most overanalyzed, overrated event in the history of mankind. It's just one way teams acquire players and fill out their roster. Important, sure, but not close to the level of importance it is assigned by fans.  I think some fans care more about draft grades than wins and losses.

Also, if a team drafts a guy and he's not good enough for that team but nevertheless is good enough to play in the NFL, what does that mean? Maybe it means that the players on the team that drafted him are pretty good?

In response to digger0862's comment:

Put Sanchez on the 49ers and Ravens and they don't make the playoffs either. That was too easy.

True.

Why can't people understand that the better the team is, the harder it is to make the roster? BB demands perfection and if he sees an area that can be upgraded, not only does he draft at that position but also brings in FA's to compete with them at times. Other teams draft a guy, rely solely on them and ride them through the season regardless of whether the guy is good or s#cks (Jets).

I'm sure there has been some guys here over the years that hated being drafted by the Pats because they knew they wouldn't be handed a roster spot or playing time. Then we have guys who just want to win and be on the team and compete. Yes they've had some busts but who hasn't?

In response to Homecheese's comment:

Why can't people understand that the better the team is, the harder it is to make the roster? BB demands perfection and if he sees an area that can be upgraded, not only does he draft at that position but also brings in FA's to compete with them at times. Other teams draft a guy, rely solely on them and ride them through the season regardless of whether the guy is good or s#cks (Jets).

I'm sure there has been some guys here over the years that hated being drafted by the Pats because they knew they wouldn't be handed a roster spot or playing time. Then we have guys who just want to win and be on the team and compete. Yes they've had some busts but who hasn't?

Is our 29th ranked passing D an example of BB demanding perfection?

You mean a defender wouldn't want to be drafted by a team with one of the worst defenses in the league? That doesn't make a lot of sense.

In response to BabeParilli's comment:

In response to Homecheese's comment:

Why can't people understand that the better the team is, the harder it is to make the roster? BB demands perfection and if he sees an area that can be upgraded, not only does he draft at that position but also brings in FA's to compete with them at times. Other teams draft a guy, rely solely on them and ride them through the season regardless of whether the guy is good or s#cks (Jets).

I'm sure there has been some guys here over the years that hated being drafted by the Pats because they knew they wouldn't be handed a roster spot or playing time. Then we have guys who just want to win and be on the team and compete. Yes they've had some busts but who hasn't?

Is our 29th ranked passing D an example of BB demanding perfection?

You mean a defender wouldn't want to be drafted by a team with one of the worst defenses in the league? That doesn't make a lot of sense.

I don't really care about yards allowed, I care about points allowed. Pats were 9th in the league in pts. allowed. Much more important stat imo.

In response to Homecheese's comment:

In response to BabeParilli's comment:

In response to Homecheese's comment:

Why can't people understand that the better the team is, the harder it is to make the roster? BB demands perfection and if he sees an area that can be upgraded, not only does he draft at that position but also brings in FA's to compete with them at times. Other teams draft a guy, rely solely on them and ride them through the season regardless of whether the guy is good or s#cks (Jets).

I'm sure there has been some guys here over the years that hated being drafted by the Pats because they knew they wouldn't be handed a roster spot or playing time. Then we have guys who just want to win and be on the team and compete. Yes they've had some busts but who hasn't?

Is our 29th ranked passing D an example of BB demanding perfection?

You mean a defender wouldn't want to be drafted by a team with one of the worst defenses in the league? That doesn't make a lot of sense.

I don't really care about yards allowed, I care about points allowed. Pats were 9th in the league in pts. allowed. Much more important stat imo.

Yeah, a lot of people cherry pick a stat to feed their denial. But anybody who knows the game knows points ain't all that defense is about. Nobody with any credentials is saying the Pats have the 9th best defense.

In response to Muzwell's comment:

In response to CablesWyndBairn's comment:

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Listen to yourselves some of you.  You expect BB to be #1 at everything, and anything else is failure by your ridculously high standards that were -- get this -- set by BB himself.  That BB can't replicate the success of the early 2000's is not a surprise.  Spoiled, spoiled, spolied.  Some of you think superbowls grow on trees and you forget that the Pats were a play or two away from two more superbowl wins.  They got there, and they are competitive year in and year out.  Most any franchise in the NFL would gladly take the success NE has had.  

Exactly!

The NFL draft has to be the most overanalyzed, overrated event in the history of mankind. It's just one way teams acquire players and fill out their roster. Important, sure, but not close to the level of importance it is assigned by fans.  I think some fans care more about draft grades than wins and losses.

Also, if a team drafts a guy and he's not good enough for that team but nevertheless is good enough to play in the NFL, what does that mean? Maybe it means that the players on the team that drafted him are pretty good?

The draft is 90% of what wins SBs.

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My belief is BB has done a good job.  If you're not getting those impact players at the top of the draft you're going to be lacking in areas.  That's the reason for getting players with some kind of upside.  Doesn't work a lot when you're low in the pecking order.  Why folks here can't see that I don't know. 

In response to BabeParilli's comment:

In response to Muzwell's comment:

In response to CablesWyndBairn's comment:

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Listen to yourselves some of you.  You expect BB to be #1 at everything, and anything else is failure by your ridculously high standards that were -- get this -- set by BB himself.  That BB can't replicate the success of the early 2000's is not a surprise.  Spoiled, spoiled, spolied.  Some of you think superbowls grow on trees and you forget that the Pats were a play or two away from two more superbowl wins.  They got there, and they are competitive year in and year out.  Most any franchise in the NFL would gladly take the success NE has had.  

Exactly!

The NFL draft has to be the most overanalyzed, overrated event in the history of mankind. It's just one way teams acquire players and fill out their roster. Important, sure, but not close to the level of importance it is assigned by fans.  I think some fans care more about draft grades than wins and losses.

Also, if a team drafts a guy and he's not good enough for that team but nevertheless is good enough to play in the NFL, what does that mean? Maybe it means that the players on the team that drafted him are pretty good?

The draft is 90% of what wins SBs.

No, it isn't. 

In response to garytx's comment:

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My belief is BB has done a good job.  If you're not getting those impact players at the top of the draft you're going to be lacking in areas.  That's the reason for getting players with some kind of upside.  Doesn't work a lot when you're low in the pecking order.  Why folks here can't see that I don't know. 

BB's first round picks: Seymour, Graham, Warren, Wilfork, Watson, Mankins, Maroney, Meriweather, Mayo, McCourty, Solder, Jones and Hightower. All but Warren and Maroney still in the league.  Not bad.

Sanchez is the anomolly in all this.  We're talking about a high profile position where chucks of money are thrown at you.  All teams in the NFL go with that type of a draft pick regardless.  Sanchez isn't the only QB to be thrown out there, to stink up the place and not be replaced.  A poor example here IMHO.

My belief is BB has done a good job.  If you're not getting those impact players at the top of the draft you're going to be lacking in areas.  That's the reason for getting players with some kind of upside.  Doesn't work a lot when you're low in the pecking order.  Why folks here can't see that I don't know. 

In response to BabeParilli's comment:

In response to Homecheese's comment:

In response to BabeParilli's comment:

In response to Homecheese's comment:

Why can't people understand that the better the team is, the harder it is to make the roster? BB demands perfection and if he sees an area that can be upgraded, not only does he draft at that position but also brings in FA's to compete with them at times. Other teams draft a guy, rely solely on them and ride them through the season regardless of whether the guy is good or s#cks (Jets).

I'm sure there has been some guys here over the years that hated being drafted by the Pats because they knew they wouldn't be handed a roster spot or playing time. Then we have guys who just want to win and be on the team and compete. Yes they've had some busts but who hasn't?

Is our 29th ranked passing D an example of BB demanding perfection?

You mean a defender wouldn't want to be drafted by a team with one of the worst defenses in the league? That doesn't make a lot of sense.

I don't really care about yards allowed, I care about points allowed. Pats were 9th in the league in pts. allowed. Much more important stat imo.

Yeah, a lot of people cherry pick a stat to feed their denial. But anybody who knows the game knows points ain't all that defense is about. Nobody with any credentials is saying the Pats have the 9th best defense.

I'm not saying our D is top notch and it's let us down at times this year but look at the top 10 pass D's in the league, 4 made the playoffs. Look at the top 10 D's in points allowed, 7 made the playoffs. I'll take the points allowed over the yards allowed any day

In response to Muzwell's comment:

In response to garytx's comment:

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My belief is BB has done a good job.  If you're not getting those impact players at the top of the draft you're going to be lacking in areas.  That's the reason for getting players with some kind of upside.  Doesn't work a lot when you're low in the pecking order.  Why folks here can't see that I don't know. 

BB's first round picks: Seymour, Graham, Warren, Wilfork, Watson, Mankins, Maroney, Meriweather, Mayo, McCourty, Solder, Jones and Hightower. All but Warren and Maroney still in the league.  Not bad.

You think "still in the league" for a 1st round pick is good drafting? Five of those 13 were/are good.

Try not rationalizing failure. You'll feel better about yourself.

In response to garytx's comment:

Sanchez is the anomolly in all this.  We're talking about a high profile position where chucks of money are thrown at you.  All teams in the NFL go with that type of a draft pick regardless.  Sanchez isn't the only QB to be thrown out there, to stink up the place and not be replaced.  A poor example here IMHO.

My belief is BB has done a good job.  If you're not getting those impact players at the top of the draft you're going to be lacking in areas.  That's the reason for getting players with some kind of upside.  Doesn't work a lot when you're low in the pecking order.  Why folks here can't see that I don't know. 

Maybe they don't see that because they see tems like the Steelers and Giants winning 25% of the last 8 SBs each with lesser QBs. They must have done something right that BB didn't to achieve greater results and they weren't drafting in the top 10.

Try not rationalizing failure. You'll feel better about yourself.