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    I'm sure some will say I'm trying to stir the pot with this, but I'm not. I am honestly curious if perceptions have changed. It seems they have from the last time I did this sort of thing a year or two ago. (back when they actually had polls.)

    If you're just going to gripe that the question exists you might want to just move on and address some other subject people choose to discuss that doesn't aggravate you.

    Please vote on his GM work, not his head coaching skills.

     

    What caliber of GM is BB?

     

    1. Good to among the best in the game.

     

    2. Average to somewhat better than average.

     

    3. Somewhat deficient to a clear failure.

     

     

    I'll vote 2.

     

     

     



    With these definitions, I'd pick one.  I think he's among the best in the game, though I think there are three or four others who are similarly successful, and BB has had enough failures to prevent me from saying he's unequivocally the best.  

     

     

     

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    Rank your top 3 GMs and explain your rankings, please. If every GM has their failures and BB has the best resume of any of them (unless the GM is fairly new), how can he be one of the best, but behind someone else with a better resume? That makes no sense.

     

    Who has the better overall resume?

    Do you really want me to again say BB would have 4 rings (or 5), if Brady was better in SB 42 or SB 46? Do you? 

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    I'll throw three out there for you...Kevin Colbert, Ted Thompson and Ozzie Nwesome. And if Brady played on another team I could name a few more.

     
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    A big reason why it worked was the surprise element. Who cares about 16-0? In fact, our D was allowing 25 points per game in December on average.

     

    Why?  A feast or famine offense that had been figured out by Philly Def Coordinator, Jim Johnson.

    So, our "4th ranked" D in 2007 wasn't so great in unison with our feast or famine offense at the end of our 16-0 season, was it?

    Hmm.

    Our supposedly awful D in 2011 held NY to 13 points in SB 46 with our offense needing 4 tries to not turn it over and just get a FG in those 4 tries.  1 INT and 4 failed drives out of 5 to end it.



    Feast or famine?  When did the famine strike?  They Pats never scored less than 20 points in any game during those 16 wins.  After the Philly game (31 points for), they had 27, 34, 20, 28 and 38.  Is that the famine you're referring to?  Maybe you're bent about them only beating the Jets 20-10 and one of those TDs was by the defense. 

    Did they really surprise the Giants in Week 17?  A big ole boogie boogie gotcha surprise of the Steelers in Week 14? (Both of those was after Philly supposedly figured out the BIG SURPRISE.)

    And the hits keep coming from a pink helmet casual know nothing fan.

    In case you are wondering what the "failed Welker/Moss offense" looked like on paper, I took a screenshot for you.  Here it is.  Wow.  What a total failure that was.  Thank GOD they got Alge Crumpler.

     
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    Most of the time I'd like to say he is as good as anyone else and at times better - the guy knows what a good football player looks like, however his free agent signings over the last 5 years have not been good. And I don't like his current trend of drafting multiple players from his buddies programs against the wishes of his scouting department - I could handle that if the players selected were not reaches, but they have been. 

    I don't like these signings and I think they had the biggest hand in us not winning another Super Bowl....Haynesworth, Shaun Ellis, Shawn Springs, Robert Gallery, Stallworth, Gaffney, Fenene, Gregory, Fred Taylor, Joseph Addai, Shiancoe. We were primed for another title...the salary cap had been managed...money was there to spend...needs needed to be filled and we laid a gigantic egg. Gigantic. No one remains (except Gregory) from last year's free agent signings - that was the off season we went into it with 26 million to spend and we came away with Gregory. Think about that. Here we are a year later and we've drafted two safeties to get Gregory off the field and signed another in free agency this year. If Gregory's conttract wasn't such a factor everyone of the free agents from last season would be gone.

    I give him a 2. 

     



    You do realize there was a lockout in 2011, correct?

     

    His FA signings have mostly been outstanding:

    BJGE, Rob Ninkovich, Dan Connolly, Kyle Arrington, Donald Thomas, Nick McDonald, Ryan Wendell, Alge Crumpler, Brian Waters, Brandon Lloyd, Andre Carter, Mark Anderson.  All in some way, have been good to very good value/production FA moves. That is 12 names in the last 4 offseasons, prior to this offseason, I'd say 3 FAs on average, helping our team in some way is a pretty darn good yield.

    Brandon Bolden also looks quite good to me last year when BB brought in Brandon Lloyd in FA.

    You just are one of those fans that needs media reassurance so you can feel secure, which is somewhat embarrassing for you considering you're an adult.

    ANd, I am not even counting this year's, which I think are superb with future HOFer (potentially) Adrian Wilson, Leon Washington and Tommy Kelly leading the list.

    BB wasn't entering the lockout after 2011 (or spending a lot in the uncapped 2010 because most of the NFL colluded anyway to stay around 120 million), so that's why he didn't make enormous, homerun splashes in FA.  If you knew a shred about economics or business, you'd know this. It's why the Jets are in the utter disaster they are in. I've explained this to you before, but you keep immaturely thinking the salary cap doesn't mean anything, contracts don't mean anything and it's there, just because. LOL

    But, the players he's signed in FA and developed, the list above?  Show me a team that has done better work in that area, please.

    Good luck, Mt Hurl.  Good luck.

    PS You keep mentioning Gallery and Addai if means something. Our RBs were superb as was our O Line last year, so Gallery retiring or Addai deemded not good enough, are moot examples. Where did you go to college, Mt Hurl? The board would love to know this.  If our O Line wasn't very good or the Ridley didn't run amuck with Bolden and Vereen w/Woodhead on the bench, the supposed disaster that was Addai not cutting it here, might make sense.

     

     



    Leave it to you to pee yourself over Kyle Arrington, BJGE, Ryan Wendell, Alge Crumpler (the guy who dropped that touchdown), one year band aides  Anderson, Carter and Lloyd. You got to be kidding me? Did you really miss out on that much milk at birth? We signed 150 free agents over the last four years and this is what you wet your pants over? No one has his head further up his rear than you. No one. Half those guys are offensive linemen...Christ! Scharnecia could turn you into a starting guard.

     

     

    We had a window remaining where we could of really added to this team, instead we went value...had to beat everyone at the negotiation table...had to be smarter than everyone. How smart do we look now? We just gave 41 million to a serial killer! Our double tightend offense is gone, ruined by all the reasons we were warned about with those two players...injury and questionable character. All of the targets Brady was throwing to last year are gone. We just gave the most injury prone receiver in the NFL a longer and larger contract than Welker. What are you going to write when Amendola goes down and Welker is catching 8 passes a week from Manning? I'm sure you'll spin it in some positive light...it's what people lacking milk at birth do.

     

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    How am I "peeing myself"? Knowing you can't have 53 All Pros on a roster and me appreciating how he finds and cultivates Patriot material is me "peeing myself"?

     

    You're like a 12 year old boy in front of a Madden video game thinking BB should also be able to buy an all star team in the cap era, which is very pathetic for you if you are an adult in your 40s. 

    Can you balance a checkbook, Cupake? I don't think you can. I think your mommy does it for you.  

    What are you going to do if Brady sucks again in AFC title game again at 17 milion per year? Blame the GM?  LMAO

    We're going on many years of this routine with him and BB has finally stopped it. He's seen enough. I've seen enough. Unloading his binkies will be the best thing that has ever happned to Tom Brady because Tom Brady has been CODDLED here since 2007 (minus 2009). CODDLED.

    Time for Brady to take the pacifer out, get out of the diaper and get back to basics.

    Welker isn't here because he's a choke artist against the better defenses. He can't get open (unless in that ridiculous and predictable finesse shotgu which was for him), he's about to be 33 and wanted it to be about him and his boyfriend, Tom Brady. Well, they got together and made sure our offense sucked in two SBs and a myriad of other playoff games and now the best GM ever is trying to do something about that little problem of ours.

    For me, I cannot wait. What a relief. I could not stand to watch the arrogant Brady with his hands on his hips in January again, acting lke he played well, for another season. Could not stomach it. 

    You have no idea the bashing he takes outside of NE. He's destroyd his legacy with this crap.

    PS Gomer is 3-9 outdoors in the postseason. The SB is outdoors, you know, in February n NJ. Welkie ain't winning jack squat. He can catch 8 balls a week for you fantasy dorks for all I care, but we'll be running and playing smart for our SB title.

     

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    I didn't read all your garbage (I stopped when you got to your usual Brady bashing), but I did read the whole lame excuse...we can't have all pros at every position, crap. I've been reading that from you for four years now. Evidently the best GM of all time is only required to get us players that don't go out on the field and take a large dump according to you. I personally would just enjoy free agents that make it out of training camp and don't go home and have nervous breakdowns like Fenene. Or don't have to be escorted to court before quitting on the team like Heynesworth. Or how about a guy that can read, unlike Ocho Cinco...remember that brilliant acquisition? You blamed Brady on a guy who smacks his wife around and hasn't played football since he left here. lmao!

    You really are clueless when it comes to football (and I'm sure much more). Hey could you run a quick little spell checky over this for me? I'm sure you've got nothing better to do.

     
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    I'm asking if Rusty is a pariah in the Bruins forum like he is here.



    He tried to act like this over there.  He was promptly run out of Dodge.  His comments were so far out of left field it was amazing.  Not one person agreed with him...ever.  One of my favorites was when he was complaining about the price of everything at the games and driving nailed throught the hands and feet of everyone who spent their money on Bruins stuff because we were just lining the pockets of the owner.

    Someone reminded him that, if he actually did go to his palrty 50 games, he was also lining the pockets of the owner.

    Not true, he told us.  Every ticket he ever used to get into a game was given to him by someone else.  He never paid for one of them. 

    No joke.  That really happened.

    Another great part of that whole experience is that he tried his "if I repeat something enough times, other will catch on" routine that he sometimes gets going over here.  Total failure.  He has no idea how to get along with anyone, ever.  I get along with the core group of fans over at the B's side, and I feel like I'm fitting in okay over here.  Being the new guy, I'm not typing to ruffle feathers or create controversy...just hanging out chatting about my favorite football team.

    I won't get run out of here like he was run out of the B's side, that's for sure. 

     
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    Most of the time I'd like to say he is as good as anyone else and at times better - the guy knows what a good football player looks like, however his free agent signings over the last 5 years have not been good. And I don't like his current trend of drafting multiple players from his buddies programs against the wishes of his scouting department - I could handle that if the players selected were not reaches, but they have been. 

    I don't like these signings and I think they had the biggest hand in us not winning another Super Bowl....Haynesworth, Shaun Ellis, Shawn Springs, Robert Gallery, Stallworth, Gaffney, Fenene, Gregory, Fred Taylor, Joseph Addai, Shiancoe. We were primed for another title...the salary cap had been managed...money was there to spend...needs needed to be filled and we laid a gigantic egg. Gigantic. No one remains (except Gregory) from last year's free agent signings - that was the off season we went into it with 26 million to spend and we came away with Gregory. Think about that. Here we are a year later and we've drafted two safeties to get Gregory off the field and signed another in free agency this year. If Gregory's conttract wasn't such a factor everyone of the free agents from last season would be gone.

    I give him a 2. 

     



    You do realize there was a lockout in 2011, correct?

     

    His FA signings have mostly been outstanding:

    BJGE, Rob Ninkovich, Dan Connolly, Kyle Arrington, Donald Thomas, Nick McDonald, Ryan Wendell, Alge Crumpler, Brian Waters, Brandon Lloyd, Andre Carter, Mark Anderson.  All in some way, have been good to very good value/production FA moves. That is 12 names in the last 4 offseasons, prior to this offseason, I'd say 3 FAs on average, helping our team in some way is a pretty darn good yield.

    Brandon Bolden also looks quite good to me last year when BB brought in Brandon Lloyd in FA.

    You just are one of those fans that needs media reassurance so you can feel secure, which is somewhat embarrassing for you considering you're an adult.

    ANd, I am not even counting this year's, which I think are superb with future HOFer (potentially) Adrian Wilson, Leon Washington and Tommy Kelly leading the list.

    BB wasn't entering the lockout after 2011 (or spending a lot in the uncapped 2010 because most of the NFL colluded anyway to stay around 120 million), so that's why he didn't make enormous, homerun splashes in FA.  If you knew a shred about economics or business, you'd know this. It's why the Jets are in the utter disaster they are in. I've explained this to you before, but you keep immaturely thinking the salary cap doesn't mean anything, contracts don't mean anything and it's there, just because. LOL

    But, the players he's signed in FA and developed, the list above?  Show me a team that has done better work in that area, please.

    Good luck, Mt Hurl.  Good luck.

    PS You keep mentioning Gallery and Addai if means something. Our RBs were superb as was our O Line last year, so Gallery retiring or Addai deemded not good enough, are moot examples. Where did you go to college, Mt Hurl? The board would love to know this.  If our O Line wasn't very good or the Ridley didn't run amuck with Bolden and Vereen w/Woodhead on the bench, the supposed disaster that was Addai not cutting it here, might make sense.

     

     



    Leave it to you to pee yourself over Kyle Arrington, BJGE, Ryan Wendell, Alge Crumpler (the guy who dropped that touchdown), one year band aides  Anderson, Carter and Lloyd. You got to be kidding me? Did you really miss out on that much milk at birth? We signed 150 free agents over the last four years and this is what you wet your pants over? No one has his head further up his rear than you. No one. Half those guys are offensive linemen...Christ! Scharnecia could turn you into a starting guard.

     

     

    We had a window remaining where we could of really added to this team, instead we went value...had to beat everyone at the negotiation table...had to be smarter than everyone. How smart do we look now? We just gave 41 million to a serial killer! Our double tightend offense is gone, ruined by all the reasons we were warned about with those two players...injury and questionable character. All of the targets Brady was throwing to last year are gone. We just gave the most injury prone receiver in the NFL a longer and larger contract than Welker. What are you going to write when Amendola goes down and Welker is catching 8 passes a week from Manning? I'm sure you'll spin it in some positive light...it's what people lacking milk at birth do.

     



    How am I "peeing myself"? Knowing you can't have 53 All Pros on a roster and me appreciating how he finds and cultivates Patriot material is me "peeing myself"?

     

    You're like a 12 year old boy in front of a Madden video game thinking BB should also be able to buy an all star team in the cap era, which is very pathetic for you if you are an adult in your 40s. 

    Can you balance a checkbook, Cupake? I don't think you can. I think your mommy does it for you.  

    What are you going to do if Brady sucks again in AFC title game again at 17 milion per year? Blame the GM?  LMAO

    We're going on many years of this routine with him and BB has finally stopped it. He's seen enough. I've seen enough. Unloading his binkies will be the best thing that has ever happned to Tom Brady because Tom Brady has been CODDLED here since 2007 (minus 2009). CODDLED.

    Time for Brady to take the pacifer out, get out of the diaper and get back to basics.

    Welker isn't here because he's a choke artist against the better defenses. He can't get open (unless in that ridiculous and predictable finesse shotgu which was for him), he's about to be 33 and wanted it to be about him and his boyfriend, Tom Brady. Well, they got together and made sure our offense sucked in two SBs and a myriad of other playoff games and now the best GM ever is trying to do something about that little problem of ours.

    For me, I cannot wait. What a relief. I could not stand to watch the arrogant Brady with his hands on his hips in January again, acting lke he played well, for another season. Could not stomach it.   45 passes, crappy and then acting like he has little to no accountability. Bring back the old Brady! Please!  

    If BB pulls that off, he will be even more of a legend than he already is. The Lombardi Trophy then becomes the Belichick Trophy overnight.

    You have no idea the bashing he takes outside of NE. He's destroyd his legacy with this crap. He's turned into Gomer Manning.  Stats are for dorks, video game players and fantasy geeks who don't know the game. Congrats, you'e one of them. lmao

    PS Gomer is 3-9 outdoors in the postseason. The SB is outdoors, you know, in February n NJ. Welkie ain't winning jack squat. He can catch 8 balls a week for you fantasy dorks for all I care, but we'll be running and playing smart for our SB title.

     



    Funny you didn't mention 1 word about the all pro defenses we have fielded since 2007. Hmmm

     
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    Hey could you run a quick little spell checky over this for me? I'm sure you've got nothing better to do.



    Ahem, excuse me.  "Checky" is not a word.

    Thank you.

     
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    It gave him leverage as GM to attempt to bury the failed MOss/Welker based offense.

     

     



    Was this the failed offense that went 16-0?

     

     

    If you are such a football mind and I'm a pink helmet casual fan troll, how is this happening to you?  Wow, I'm honestly a little embarrassed for you.  Not really, though.

     

     

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    A big reason why it worked was the surprise element. Who cares about 16-0? In fact, our D was allowing 25 points per game in December on average.

     

    Why?  A feast or famine offense that had been figured out by Philly Def Coordinator, Jim Johnson.

    So, our "4th ranked" D in 2007 wasn't so great in unison with our feast or famine offense at the end of our 16-0 season, was it?

    Hmm.

    Our supposedly awful D in 2011 held NY to 13 points in SB 46 with our offense needing 4 tries to not turn it over and just get a FG in those 4 tries.  1 INT and 4 failed drives out of 5 to end it.

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    19 points and they needed a TD to win because the D was giving up scores at record breaking pace to the tune of 75% in the second half.  TRY again!

    P.S., giving up 25 points in an average 12 possession rs game doesn't suck as badly as giving up 17 points in a 8 possession game.  But it still sucks.

      What ever happened to the days of giving up 15 ppg?  Guess you need talent to do that.

     
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    Would have been a LOT better if our lead RB who bailed out Brady in the AFC title game got more than the futile 14 carries with a lead. Brady wanted to put on a show in his shotgun spreads, so Maroney wasn't on the field much. Isn't that swell. Then, our O Line was under pressure all game vs a sell out pass rush.

     



    Why didn't the coach call more running plays?

     

     
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    Ask Brady. He runs the offense. 



    Okay, so Belichick cannot receive any credit for anything that is done on offense.  How can he be considered such a great coach if he doesn't even run the offense?

     
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    2007 was a surprise for the leg, but it won't work. Add in his injury and his unfortunate pansy behavior and only he can change it. When he realizes it's not about him only and JUST passing, we win  a SB.



    It's really too bad that the Pats don't have a coach who can run the offense.

     
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    It gave him leverage as GM to attempt to bury the failed MOss/Welker based offense.

     

     

     

     

     



    Was this the failed offense that went 16-0?

     

     

     

     

     

    If you are such a football mind and I'm a pink helmet casual fan troll, how is this happening to you?  Wow, I'm honestly a little embarrassed for you.  Not really, though.

     

     

     

     

     



    A big reason why it worked was the surprise element. Who cares about 16-0? In fact, our D was allowing 25 points per game in December on average.

     

     

     

     

    Why?  A feast or famine offense that had been figured out by Philly Def Coordinator, Jim Johnson.

    So, our "4th ranked" D in 2007 wasn't so great in unison with our feast or famine offense at the end of our 16-0 season, was it?

    Hmm.

    Our supposedly awful D in 2011 held NY to 13 points in SB 46 with our offense needing 4 tries to not turn it over and just get a FG in those 4 tries.  1 INT and 4 failed drives out of 5 to end it.

     

     

     




    19 points and they needed a TD to win because the D was giving up scores at record breaking pace to the tune of 75% in the second half.  TRY again!

     

     

     

    P.S., giving up 25 points in an average 12 possession rs game doesn't suck as badly as giving up 17 points in a 8 possession game.  But it still sucks.

      What ever happened to the days of giving up 15 ppg?  Guess you need talent to do that.

     

     



    WHat happened? Ask Rogie Goodell. Ask all Def Coordinators. 15 PPG?  What on earth? What is it this, 1972?  Seek help.

     

     

    You might want to do your homework and check out some of the current defenses.  You know, the ones with actual talent.

    Seek help!


     
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    Oh, McDaniels can run it. O'Brien, too. I thought it was O'brien in 2011. I was wrong. It was Brady's autonomy to change plays and is ego.

     

    Whoops.

    Welker is gone, those days should be long gone. BB broke it up. For good.



    Why can't Belichick run the offense?  If he's the greatest head coach ever, why does he let the people below him make such poor decisions?  You'd think, with him being the greatest ever and all, that he would have some say in the play calling...especially in the SuperBowl!  I can't believe he just stood around and allowed Tom Brady to continue to pass the ball, knowing full well there should be more run plays.

     
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     Tom Brady has been CODDLED here since 2007 (minus 2009). CODDLED.



    Here's a tip dumbkoff. Just because you say something twice, that doesn't make it any less stupid.

     

    You mean like he was CODDLED by the Giants D-line in SB 42?

     

    Come to think of it, what I do to you every day here is much like what the Giants D-line did to our O-line that day.

     

     
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    Welker is gone, those days should be long gone. BB broke it up. For good.


    No dumbkoff. Welker's butterfingers broke that up. You are dense.

     
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    You might want to do your homework and check out some of the current defenses.  You know, the ones with actual talent.

    Seek help!




    Do you mean like the recent Steelers teams that finished below 15 PA a game for two years in a row?

     
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    Welker is gone, those days should be long gone. BB broke it up. For good.


    PHOENIX — Four days after Wes Welker was introduced as the newest Broncos wide receiver, Patriots owner Robert Kraft went on the offensive at the NFL meetings.

    Kraft said Monday that Welker's agent, David Dunn, "overvalued" Welker on the open market and said he believed Welker was offered a better deal to stay with the Patriots. According to Kraft, the Patriots offered Welker a two-year contract worth $10 million plus incentives.

    Welker's deal with the Broncos is a two-year contract worth $12 million. It includes a $4 million signing bonus and a $2 million base salary for this season. Next year, Welker will have a $3 million base salary and a $3 million bonus.

    Kraft said the Broncos' deal was essentially

    a one-year affair, something the Broncos' decision makers dispute, and Kraft said the Patriots' last offer to Welker would have given $8 million in salary and bonuses to Welker this season.

    "We just couldn't give Wes what he wanted," Kraft said. "We, in fact, offered him a better deal."

     


    Rusty, tell us exactly how Belichick broke up the Brady to Welker connection in an effort to cut down on the shotgun and run the ball more.

     
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    You might want to do your homework and check out some of the current defenses.  You know, the ones with actual talent.

    Seek help!


     



    Do you mean like the recent Steelers teams that finished below 15 PA a game for two years in a row?

     

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    Yup!  That's one of them.

     
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    Because he isn't a micromanager, diverts other elements of the team to certain coaches, like all/most NFL coaches do.

     

    He could be an OC, but then people like you who have man lust for Brady would claim he is a dictator.

    Why does it all go back to BB?  Do you ever realize that you BBWs all do the same thing? You want BB to coach every part of the team, be the QB, and now apparently, have a crystal ball to see if a 22 year old might be capabale of pulling a Ray Lewis.

    Hmm.

    What responsiblities does Brady have in your mind? Any?



    If the plays being called by Brady, you know, the guy you say runs the offense, are detrimental to the success of the team, why doesn't the greatest coach in the history of the NFL do something about it?  (Calling a timeout at one point early in a game doesn't count.  I mean, make serious changes to stop his rogue QB from ruining the team.)

     
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    I just find it wired that the greatest GM of all time apparently doesn't agree with rusty's opinion of Brady, otherwise he wouldn't of gave him a five year contract extension. Lmao! And I suppose he doesn't agree that Mallett is the best QB that has entered the NFL in the last three years or he would be starting him, with Brady sent packing for draft picks.

    It's funny that a guy who was deprived of milk at birth thinks he's got Belichick all figured out.

     

     
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    Welker is gone, those days should be long gone. BB broke it up. For good.

     

     

     

     

    PHOENIX — Four days after Wes Welker was introduced as the newest Broncos wide receiver, Patriots owner Robert Kraft went on the offensive at the NFL meetings.

    Kraft said Monday that Welker's agent, David Dunn, "overvalued" Welker on the open market and said he believed Welker was offered a better deal to stay with the Patriots. According to Kraft, the Patriots offered Welker a two-year contract worth $10 million plus incentives.

    Welker's deal with the Broncos is a two-year contract worth $12 million. It includes a $4 million signing bonus and a $2 million base salary for this season. Next year, Welker will have a $3 million base salary and a $3 million bonus.

    Kraft said the Broncos' deal was essentially

    a one-year affair, something the Broncos' decision makers dispute, and Kraft said the Patriots' last offer to Welker would have given $8 million in salary and bonuses to Welker this season.

    "We just couldn't give Wes what he wanted," Kraft said. "We, in fact, offered him a better deal."

     


    Rusty, tell us exactly how Belichick broke up the Brady to Welker connection in an effort to cut down on the shotgun and run the ball more.

     

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    BB is the GM.  Kraft can save face all day long. NE lowered their price on Welker. That's the fact. 8 mil to 5.  That was not an accident. If NE wanted to keep Welker, they would have.

     

    Dunn is also Hernandez's agent.  Hmmm.  Seems like that loser has been quite lately, huh?

    Botches Welker's deal, gets greedy on Hernandez's and doesn't know his own client. I'd say it's a bad year for David Dunn so far.

     

     

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    Wait a minute, two days ago you were saying Dunn's only clients were Sanchez and Hernadez. Now he is also Welker's? This guy isn't done like you said....do you ever reserch anything before giving us your insightful opinion?

     
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    And, what did that get them?  They also use a run game to help Rapelisturd.  We don't. Brady can't wait to throw 2 INTs and race to 45 pass attempts.

     

    The Steelers? LOL

    Tebow beat them two years ago in the playoffs and they just missed the playoffs. 15 PPG?  LOL

    Seems like that really doesn't mean anything, huh? They're also one of the worst, if not the worst in creating turnovers. Ouch. You walked into another wall.

     



    That's all really interesting stuff.  It's not on topic, but interesting.  I'm not sure why you'd be coming down so hard on them, however.  They've won two SuperBowls since the best coach and GM won his last. 

    But, back on topic:  You were making fun of someone for suggesting 15 points against per game, suggesting that things like that don't happen in the modern era.  Well, the 49ers did it recently.  So did the Steelers.  How can such a pink hat casual fan like myself know so much more about all of this than such a football mastermind like yourself?

     
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    BB is the GM.  Kraft can save face all day long. NE lowered their price on Welker. That's the fact. 8 mil to 5.  That was not an accident. If NE wanted to keep Welker, they would have.

     

    Dunn is also Hernandez's agent.  Hmmm.  Seems like that loser has been quite lately, huh?

    Botches Welker's deal, gets greedy on Hernandez's and doesn't know his own client. I'd say it's a bad year for David Dunn so far.

     

     



    Oh, I wasn't aware that Bob Kraft was simply lying to the world in that discussion.  You'd think he would be a more honorable man, with all he's done for the team.  Just a dirty liar, I guess.  Thanks for clearing that up.

    As for the stuff about the agent...If the Pats offered less than Denver (which you know to be true and Bob Kraft was lying to everyone about), and Welker signed in Denver, where is the botch job?

     
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    Oh, McDaniels can run it. O'Brien, too. I thought it was O'brien in 2011. I was wrong. It was Brady's autonomy to change plays and is ego.

     

    Whoops.

    Welker is gone, those days should be long gone. BB broke it up. For good.

     

     



    Why can't Belichick run the offense?  If he's the greatest head coach ever, why does he let the people below him make such poor decisions?  You'd think, with him being the greatest ever and all, that he would have some say in the play calling...especially in the SuperBowl!  I can't believe he just stood around and allowed Tom Brady to continue to pass the ball, knowing full well there should be more run plays.

     

     

     

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    Right dumbkoff. He let's Brady and McD ruin his team because he doesn't want to "micromanage". The words of a moron.

     

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