BB Wants Extra Points From 43+ Yards?

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    BB Wants Extra Points From 43+ Yards?

     

    http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2014/03/bill_belichicks_wish_could_be.html

    ""That's not the way the extra point was put into the game," Belichick said in January. "It was an extra point that you actually had to execute and it was executed by players who were not specialists, they were position players. It was a lot harder for them to do."

    Belichick's overriding point was that the play is no longer exciting and is a waste of time in its current form. Considering that kickers converted 99.6 percent of extra-point attempts last season, he has a point. And the league heard it.

    According to NFL.com, the league is considering having teams line up at the 25-yard line for extra points, which would have the kicks coming from 43 yards out, as opposed to the current 20."

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    Would this be good for the game?

     
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    In response to PhatVirginian's comment:

     

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    ""That's not the way the extra point was put into the game," Belichick said in January. "It was an extra point that you actually had to execute and it was executed by players who were not specialists, they were position players. It was a lot harder for them to do."

    Belichick's overriding point was that the play is no longer exciting and is a waste of time in its current form. Considering that kickers converted 99.6 percent of extra-point attempts last season, he has a point. And the league heard it.

    According to NFL.com, the league is considering having teams line up at the 25-yard line for extra points, which would have the kicks coming from 43 yards out, as opposed to the current 20."

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    Would this be good for the game?



    Yes--I like this.  I think the try kicks should be more challenging.  I assume, you'd still line up at the two yard line for two point conversions. 

     
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    In response to PhatVirginian's comment:

     

    http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2014/03/bill_belichicks_wish_could_be.html

    ""That's not the way the extra point was put into the game," Belichick said in January. "It was an extra point that you actually had to execute and it was executed by players who were not specialists, they were position players. It was a lot harder for them to do."

    Belichick's overriding point was that the play is no longer exciting and is a waste of time in its current form. Considering that kickers converted 99.6 percent of extra-point attempts last season, he has a point. And the league heard it.

    According to NFL.com, the league is considering having teams line up at the 25-yard line for extra points, which would have the kicks coming from 43 yards out, as opposed to the current 20."

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    Would this be good for the game?



    I think it would be good for the game. I would also add, any extra point made from 55 yards out would be worth 2 points.

     
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    The extra point is one of the dumbest things in all of sports.  Nothing will fix it.  Pushing it back will make it more difficult, but still puts an emphasis on the kicking game.  No one likes the kicking game. 

    "You see that Pats game on Sunday?"

    - "Yeah man.  Awesome kicks."

    My idea:   All TDs are worth 7 points.  A team can go for the extra point (similar for going for 2 now) but if they fail, they lose a point.

     

     
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    ""That's not the way the extra point was put into the game," Belichick said in January. "It was an extra point that you actually had to execute and it was executed by players who were not specialists, they were position players. It was a lot harder for them to do."

    Belichick's overriding point was that the play is no longer exciting and is a waste of time in its current form. Considering that kickers converted 99.6 percent of extra-point attempts last season, he has a point. And the league heard it.

    According to NFL.com, the league is considering having teams line up at the 25-yard line for extra points, which would have the kicks coming from 43 yards out, as opposed to the current 20."

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    Would this be good for the game?



    Yes--I like this.  I think the try kicks should be more challenging.  I assume, you'd still line up at the two yard line for two point conversions. 



    Agreed. Extra points, as currently constituted, are simply a waste of time.

    Tds still 6. Extra point from 40-45. Or 2pt try from current spot. Also, allow Ds the opportunity to block and return kicks for the point. A pick 6 should exist on a 2pt try as well, it shouldn't be a dead ball when intercepted.

     
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    It would be great for the game and even better for place kickers salaries.

     
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    Seems like there could be a happy medium between a 20 yard PAT and a 43 yard PAT? Did they just randomly select a distance? Why not 37 yards? Or 34.5?

     
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    Seems like there could be a happy medium between a 20 yard PAT and a 43 yard PAT? Did they just randomly select a distance? Why not 37 yards? Or 34.5?



    Think it had to do with getting the conversion rate under 80% to add some suspense and make it more strategic.

    I would think teams would go for 2 almost all the time if it were 42 yards

     
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    ""That's not the way the extra point was put into the game," Belichick said in January. "It was an extra point that you actually had to execute and it was executed by players who were not specialists, they were position players. It was a lot harder for them to do."

    Belichick's overriding point was that the play is no longer exciting and is a waste of time in its current form. Considering that kickers converted 99.6 percent of extra-point attempts last season, he has a point. And the league heard it.

    According to NFL.com, the league is considering having teams line up at the 25-yard line for extra points, which would have the kicks coming from 43 yards out, as opposed to the current 20."

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    Would this be good for the game?



    NO!!

    Why further emphasis the importance of kickers in a game by moving the extra point try back to the 25 yard line by essentially forcing a 42 yard FG attempt per extra point? From a players' safety standpoint, this  will also serve to add an extra special teams play for every TD scored...or an increase in goal line plays for 2 point conversions. If the league wants more excitement in the game, than why not put a stop to all those touch-backs on kick-offs by having teams kickoff from the 35 yard line again? What play in the game is more exciting than a good kickoff return? 

    The NFL is getting more and more like Congress, and is over-legislating the game. Every year they seemingly add a bunch of new rules which further places the outcome of games on the whims of a group of mediocre at best referrees. Instead of worrying about trivial stuff like this and whether or not to penalize the use of the "n word" on the gridiron:

    1.) why not do something to address the growing number of knee injuries, resulting from the over-emphasis on preventing blows to the head?

    2.) why not change the PI rule...making it a spot foul only on blantant interference, and a 5 yard PI penalty with an automatic first down for anything else?

    3.) why not strive to come up some consistency among officials by coming up with a bright line definition of what constitutes offensive holding?

    4.) why not place a greater emphasis on calling offensive PI, in order to stop "pic plays"? This would result in forcing teams to throw the ball down field more often...as it would serve to reduce the multitude of crossing patterns and slants being run. This in turn would  serve to eliminate some of the booming hits by LBs and SS on WRs...which currently are essential to control a passing attack.    

    5.) why not change the rules on challenges, whereby, if a challenge is successful, a team will still have two remaining instead of one...and allow PI calls and all personal foul calls for illegal hits to be challengable?  

     

     

     
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    Nothing is automatic in this world. What was the distance in that missed FG, that the Ravens missed, to put us in Play-offs. Close to PAT distance. Good beer break too.

     
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    I think you are all missing the point where BB might be thinking. A move from 20 to 43yrds is a massive advantage for the Pats, and most likely why BB would want it to happen. From 43 yrds out Ghost is one of the better kickers in the league and he gets better as the temperature drops. In NE in Dec and Jan that gap widens between Ghost and most other kickers. I'm sure that has something to do with BB's comment. If Ghost was below average from that distance and got worse with colder weather I don't think BB would have made it.

     
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    I just want a pass rush....screw the extra points.....

     

     
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    In response to crazy-world-of-troybrown's comment:

    Nothing is automatic in this world. What was the distance in that missed FG, that the Ravens missed, to put us in Play-offs. Close to PAT distance. Good beer break too.



         Then Ravens' PK Billy Condiff missed a 32 yard FG.

     
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    http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2014/03/bill_belichicks_wish_could_be.html

    ""That's not the way the extra point was put into the game," Belichick said in January. "It was an extra point that you actually had to execute and it was executed by players who were not specialists, they were position players. It was a lot harder for them to do."

    Belichick's overriding point was that the play is no longer exciting and is a waste of time in its current form. Considering that kickers converted 99.6 percent of extra-point attempts last season, he has a point. And the league heard it.

    According to NFL.com, the league is considering having teams line up at the 25-yard line for extra points, which would have the kicks coming from 43 yards out, as opposed to the current 20."

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    what time period us Belichick talking about? I collect games on DVD and I have the 1946 NFL Championship Game and they are lining up and kicking it thru from close in even closer than today maybe the 15 yd line...when is BB talking about?

     
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    If you are going to mess with the scoring of an NFL game...  (and therefore change the stats and records etc. from this point forward),  then REALLY do it and make the points worthy of the relative skill and accomplishment.

    for instance  .   TD  6 points,  FG 4 points,  extra try from 3 yards 3 points.  extra try Kick from from 47 yards 2 points.   Extrapoint kick from3 yards 1 point.

     

    This gives teams more options and definitely would be more exciting since the max scoring on a drive would increase to 9 points making comebacks more possible.

    Also the strategy of going for a longer kick for an extra point vs the short "sure thing" would come into play.  More pressure on kickers but why not?   And more trys from 3 yards perhaps...?   Not a bad thing....  since you would get 3 points instead of 2.

     

    This is closer to a perfect system but traditionalists would pee their pants whining.  Thing is... you could change it and have fun with it for a season or 2 and then change it back if you missed the old system.

     
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    One of the K balls supplied for each game should randomly explode.   No points on that kick no matter if it's a point after or a field goal.  Just a dead ball.

    If it happens on a kick off; three more minutes of commercials.

     
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    BB doesn't mention that the goal posts were 10 yards closer in the old days.



     
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    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

    The extra point is one of the dumbest things in all of sports.  Nothing will fix it.  Pushing it back will make it more difficult, but still puts an emphasis on the kicking game.  No one likes the kicking game. 

    "You see that Pats game on Sunday?"

    - "Yeah man.  Awesome kicks."

    My idea:   All TDs are worth 7 points.  A team can go for the extra point (similar for going for 2 now) but if they fail, they lose a point.

     



    The kicking game got us to a SB. Thanks Cundiff!

     
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