In Response to Re: Belichick is failing this team... : As a troll you only complain after losses and don't put any accountability on Brady or the offense. Brady tosses 4 INTS against Buffalo and you blame the D. Same thing here. It's a joke. Brady won SBs with Givens and Branch as lead WRs.  He made Reche Caldwell look great. Where is that Brady now? Is Brady controlling O'Brien, watning to pass? Hmmm. He said he didn't like playing under Center.  Hmmm.
Posted by RidingWithTheKing

Oh please.  As if Henne and Campbell's weren't garbage time yards allowed as NE tried to play prevent to tick down the minutes? Has Rodgers tossed 4 INTs all within 4 straight series of another, 3 in a matter of like 5 minutes this season? Stats, schmats. Most overrated possible. Not even a discussion if Gostkowski hits his FG, the refs aren't cluless on Gronk's TD and NE kicks the ball off with 3 timeouts. It'd be a called a gutty win coming back from a weak first half off a Bye week. Enough. Note the trolls currently doing their work now. Haverhill Bob/Phat Rex returns, Babe Parilli ignores our putrid offense yesterday, etc.
Posted by RidingWithTheKing

Phat Rex, Stop saying "us" to sell your Pats poseur role to attack the genius of BB. It won't work. Henne and Campbell threw underneath at the end of a game in a soft prevent zone designed to keep plays in front of you. Who cares?   Please leave the board. You disappeared after NE throttled your Jets and ran all over that feeble D 3 weeks ago, stayed off the board off a great win over Dallas with the D OUTSTANDING, and now you return for the bashing because a 1 TD differential road loss to the Steelers? When you use this same pathetic, unreasonbale set of standards for the NY Jets organization, maybe you won't look so obvious here. Phat Rex = Haverhill Bob Everyone step forward and report.
Posted by RidingWithTheKing

In Response to Re: Belichick is failing this team... : Charlie Weis. BB is not an offensive guy and my fear is Brady has taken over gameplanning and O'Brien hasn't put his foot down, so to speak, during games, to earn his title and paycheck. Lots of excuses for Tom Brady these days.
Posted by RidingWithTheKing

Oh please.  As if Henne and Campbell's weren't garbage time yards allowed as NE tried to play prevent to tick down the minutes? Has Rodgers tossed 4 INTs all within 4 straight series of another, 3 in a matter of like 5 minutes this season? Stats, schmats. Most overrated possible. Not even a discussion if Gostkowski hits his FG, the refs aren't cluless on Gronk's TD and NE kicks the ball off with 3 timeouts. It'd be a called a gutty win coming back from a weak first half off a Bye week. Enough. Note the trolls currently doing their work now. Haverhill Bob/Phat Rex returns, Babe Parilli ignores our putrid offense yesterday, etc.
Posted by RidingWithTheKing

In Response to Re: Belichick is failing this team... : Charlie Weis. BB is not an offensive guy and my fear is Brady has taken over gameplanning and O'Brien hasn't put his foot down, so to speak, during games, to earn his title and paycheck. Lots of excuses for Tom Brady these days.
Posted by RidingWithTheKing

In Response to Re: Belichick is failing this team... : The run game is the key to all 3 of your points: 1. Play action. Believe it or not, since we don't have a 2007 freakish and healthy Moss to command a double, we did just fine with Weis era Brady stretching fields, whteher it be Branch getting behind Ds or plopping Bethel Johnson out there as a decoy in single coverages.  Price can run. I see this fear as more of a myth than it is a reason why we can't move the chains. We couldn't move the chains or score in the red zone in 2009 with Moss on the team. Same deal last year prior to his being dealt. 2. Bill O'Brien's brain on gameday, understanding what th eother team is doign with his next moves in between the 45 second clock and in between drives, etc. He gets outcoached by superior, veteran gamecallers. 3. The O Line is much better when pushing forward, run blocking early in games, JUST like ANY team's O Line. It keeps the front 7 and scheming honest against us. Regardless of the finesse style offense this team runs and its failures as the base, if you don't run in the first half, we lose or barely eek out wins that shouldn't be so close.* *Assuming we don't turn it over. Look at the squandered opps yesterday.
Posted by RidingWithTheKing

Oh please.  As if Henne and Campbell's weren't garbage time yards allowed as NE tried to play prevent to tick down the minutes? Has Rodgers tossed 4 INTs all within 4 straight series of another, 3 in a matter of like 5 minutes this season? Stats, schmats. Most overrated possible. Not even a discussion if Gostkowski hits his FG, the refs aren't cluless on Gronk's TD and NE kicks the ball off with 3 timeouts. It'd be a called a gutty win coming back from a weak first half off a Bye week. Enough. Note the trolls currently doing their work now. Haverhill Bob/Phat Rex returns, Babe Parilli ignores our putrid offense yesterday, etc.
Posted by RidingWithTheKing

In Response to Re: Belichick is failing this team... : It was schematic more so than talent or execution, though.  They're WIDE OPEN, as you say, after 7 seconds of Ben scrambling or flat out great playcalls from Arians, with NE not playing more man to adjust.  Not all the time, but I see that more as a fear to not want play man and just dealing with the repurcussions. As stated, I agree I didn't like the blitzing on those 3rds, thought it was too obvious and Pitt's blocking was great. Sometimes you guess wrong and get beat. They adjusted and then gave up only two FGs in the second half. What was your opinion of the D against NY and Dallas? I hold BB and Patricia for not having the quicker adjustment in the 2nd qtr.  I am not saying it was even a good performance, but they did adjust to battle in the second half, leaving numerous chances for the offense to move the ball. I am not sure the offense can turn it around if this is some deep rooted problem that we saw rear its ugly head last January. I hate to say it, but it's almost like Brady is on national tv and he feels he needs to put on a show. Could it be?  I wonder sometimes. I don't expect to see the same fatal flaws from Brady 1-2 years later, after we knew it existed. He gets a pass in 2009, the adjustment last year after Moss, but why did this really on crop up in Janaury, where from Week 5 through (generally speaking), NE's offense was balanced, well gameplanned, etc, AND the D took off as a unit. That's what I am saying. Is it ego, arrogance, bordeom that if he hands it off 12 times in the first half to BJGE, he doesn't get his stats?  Just wondering. I'd rather he have 27 throws and throw 2 TDs and not have some many 3 outs, with more run designs than we see in these losses. I am serious. The guy is the best QB when he wants to be, but he's not having anywhere near the year he had last year.
Posted by RidingWithTheKing

In Response to Re: Belichick is failing this team... : Apart from the lusted-for 'deep threat' that so many are all gooey over, this is an extraordinarily talented offensive team.  Best tight end tandem in the league, solid hard-working running back who doesn't fumble, very good O line, two excellent receivers in Branch and Welker, couple of really good 3rd down backs in Faulk and Woodhead.  So I ask you, where are the holes apart from that goo-inducing deep threat?
Posted by ATJ

Typical irrational based thread here again. Do you expect them to win every game on the road?  Funny how when the D is great agaisnt the Jets or Dallas, no one says a word. They give up 23 on the road, only 6 measly points in the second half with our offense doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ON THEIR OWN FOR THE ENTIRE GAME, and it's the defense's fault, exclusively? Or is it because Brady doesn't play on the D? 3 and outs, field position losses, etc. I'll be happy to blame BB for a dumb decision on the onside kick, as it still has me scratching my head this morning, especially after the D kept holding and holding, bailing out the anemic offense. He also didn't adjust quicker in the first half, playing way too much zone, likely in fear of Wallace getting behind them. Also, give Pitt some credit. They had a good gameplan. NE should have switched to man coverage, at least, sometimes, to give Ben more looks.  This is another BB complaint, but Patricia also needs to be repsonsible for that as he calls in the plays. More so BB in that case, since he's a def guy and should be seeing it. Pitt had scripted 3 straight game starting drives, so it wasn't uncommon for them to be sharp out of the gate in that situation.  Blame the D for that, no problem, but allowing FGs almost exclusviely on some short fields after that is also not as bad as being spun here. Some of you are absolute liars or flat out failing to admmit the offense is the source of this team's problems. Brady finally admitted it: "I don't think we complemented our defense very well," Brady said. "In the first quarter we had an opportunity to answer their score, and you know, we go three-and-out, so there was too many three-and-outs, there's just a poor level of execution all the way around. Individually, we all have to look in the mirror and figure out what we have to do better." You gotta run the ball to give the D some kind of chance. Not moving the ball at all is not going to work.
Posted by RidingWithTheKing

Frankly, I see things getting worse before they get better.  You have 18 mill per year wrapped up in Brady.  You've got Welker coming up for a contract.  You just paid Mankins.  In a couple of years Gronkowski and Hernandez are going to be looking for jack, and you've got to keep Brady somewhat happy because there's no running game to help.  How are you going to find the money to pay the difference makers that you need on defense?  The last few years have proven that Belichick can miss on defensive players.  You just paid Wilfork and he's 30.  Who else is a difference maker on defense?  Mayo?  He's very solid, but has he changed any games?  Anyone else?  Belichick constantly takes risks in hopes of keeping the defense off the field.  Do any of you wonder if he is looking at Brady like he did Bledsoe, and wishing he could jettison him for a solid game manager at a cheap price so that he had the money to build the defense he wants? 
Posted by UD6

I have no problem at all saying the offense stunk yesterday...none. The receivers were covered all day, we have to send tightends deep because we have no one else that can stretch anything. The line was manhandled in the running game (although pass protection wasn't bad). Was Brady off? Honestly the people were covered and there was nowhere to throw, but it doesn't matter - if you're the best you have to play like it. Now for the defense - this is a sad sack of mistake ridden -  nobody's- trotting around out there. There isn't one single guy on this defense that can play zone, their feet stop moving. Who the hell are you going to cover in the nfl if you're standing still? Idontplayfootball can't cover an ant with a blanket (the Jets have to be laughing there butts off). Christ one corner just leaned against one of their receivers in the corner off the endzone (when the guy was already covered) and let another receiver just stand there wide open for an easy touchdown. We can only hope the opposing QB gets confused when he see's three different guys wide open. This tells me that we would be even worse in man coverage from a physical stand point. Belichick better have an unbelievable way with words when he address his team today, because when you onside kick with three minutes to go and three timeouts, you may as well of been telling every single defensive player that they stink and will be working at Burger King next year.
Posted by mthurl