Belichick Terrible at Drafting..Not 1 Pro Bowler After Rd1 since 2001

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    Belichick Terrible at Drafting..Not 1 Pro Bowler After Rd1 since 2001

    Other than Samuel.. not here  and Gostowski... check the history

    BB personal decisions.... he is clearly a great X's & o's Guy and  a terrible evalulator of personal period  not one stud has he drafted after round 1 since 02

    drafting brady was luck
     
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    Oh my
     
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    Pro bowl is a popularity contest and theres a lot of teams that have pro bowl players and a crappy record.

     
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    would Moss, Merriweather, mankins count?
     
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    However he posted wins last decade then any other coach in the league.
     
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    It might be better to say that No patriots players have attended the pro bowl since 2001. Brady and Moss are "nicked up" every probowl and prefer to go to the beach instead.
     
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    In Response to Belichick Terrible at Drafting..Not 1 Pro Bowler After Rd1 since 2001:
    [QUOTE]Other than Samuel.. not here  and Gostowski... check the history BB personal decisions.... he is clearly a great X's & o's Guy and  a terrible evalulator of personal period  not one stud has he drafted after round 1 since 02 drafting brady was luck
    Posted by DBCoach[/QUOTE]

    How bout guys traded for bu giving away picks? Dont forget Welker (acquired via trade for a 2nd round pick), Moss acquired via trade for a 4th rounder,.......
     
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    Spin it how you want  FA's don't count...  lets call it pro bowl caliber players...
     
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    Koppen made the Pro Bowl in 2007, and FYI, it's "personnel", not "personal".

     
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    In Response to Re: Belichick Terrible at Drafting..Not 1 Pro Bowler After Rd1 since 2001:
    [QUOTE]Merriweather was in the pro bowl last year and he was a 1st round pick. Not to mention I hardly consider the pro bowl to be the bar for figuring out if someone can draft. But while we are on the subject Gostowski Light Mankins has made it twice Koppen Merriweather Brady Vince Wilfork has made it twice Moss Welker All these guys have made the pro bowl as members of the Pats.
    Posted by MVPkilla4life[/QUOTE]

    Merriwether 1st rd
    Wilfork 1st rd
    Mankins 1st rd
    Moss, welker not drafted by BB

    Koppen all BC O Line men turn to studs once in the NFL
    what else you got
     
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    In Response to Re: Belichick Terrible at Drafting..Not 1 Pro Bowler After Rd1 since 2001:
    [QUOTE]Ok take away the free agents welker and moss and we still have 7 guys on that list. That is not "spinning it" that is fact.
    Posted by MVPkilla4life[/QUOTE]

    take out the 1st rounders and its 2
     
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    Re: Belichick Terrible at Drafting..Not 1 Pro Bowler After Rd1 since 2001

    Vrable in 08 made it
     
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    [QUOTE]Vrable in 08 made it
    Posted by thejoshuatree28[/QUOTE]
    forgot BB drafted him.... not
     
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    In Response to Re: Belichick Terrible at Drafting..Not 1 Pro Bowler After Rd1 since 2001:
    [QUOTE]What a total failure of a thread.
    Posted by tompenny[/QUOTE]
    why because it true and not open to opinion
     
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    Re: Belichick Terrible at Drafting..Not 1 Pro Bowler After Rd1 since 2001

    This is true of most coaches and GM's.
     
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    [QUOTE]would Moss, Merriweather, mankins count?
    Posted by Philskiw[/QUOTE]

    Moss???????????????? What the heck are you talking about???
     
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    Re: Belichick Terrible at Drafting..Not 1 Pro Bowler After Rd1 since 2001

    Troll city today
     
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    In Response to Re: Belichick Terrible at Drafting..Not 1 Pro Bowler After Rd1 since 2001:
    [QUOTE]How is it true? I have named 7 people drafted by BB who have made the pro bowl since 2002 so NO IT IS NOT TRUE. You have been proven wrong.
    Posted by MVPkilla4life[/QUOTE]

    Read the title of the thread again slowly  After Round 1 
     
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    my point is we have to be better drafting...  the reason we have not been back to the SB since 05 is poor drafts...  you have to get high quality players after rd 1 to stay on top

    Can it be done every year no... but in 9 years you should have 10 hight quality players with low picks or your not a winning team..

    the reasn the Colts (and I don't like them) stay on top is drafting look at their draft history  it's not Manning cause Brady is better
     
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    The only difference between the Patriots and Colts in the past 5 years is 4 points in the 2006 AFC Championship Game. If the Patriots won that game, would it mean their drafting has been superior to the Colts?
     
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    "why because it true and not open to opinion"

    No, because it doesn't correlate to winning on the field. And since your argument claims to criticize BB's ability to analyze talent, excluding trades (Welker, Moss) doesn't cut it as that also pertains to talent evaluation.

     It also displays a lot of ignorance of Scott Pioli's key decision making role in many of those drafts. 
     
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    I guess trading draft picks for a player isn't drafting, kind of like throwing picks away.
     
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    Maybe the fact that we have been extremely successful since 2001 has something to do with it. When a team is drafting late in rounds every year then they really become handicapped being so far back. I know this is not rocket science and very easy to determine but it plays an important role in teams quality picks. You claim we are not as successful as the Colts? Then why did almost everybody call us the team of the century? The NFL draft is a lot harder to determine than you think and its pretty obvious you are an amateur at best. Do your homework before you start a thread because its people like you who make all of us look bad.
     
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    Re: Belichick Terrible at Drafting..Not 1 Pro Bowler After Rd1 since 2001

    [QUOTE]Maybe the fact that we have been extremely successful since 2001 has something to do with it. When a team is drafting late in rounds every year then they really become handicapped being so far back. I know this is not rocket science and very easy to determine but it plays an important role in teams quality picks. You claim we are not as successful as the Colts? Then why did almost everybody call us the team of the century? The NFL draft is a lot harder to determine than you think and its pretty obvious you are an amateur at best. Do your homework before you start a thread because its people like you who make all of us look bad.
    Posted by drewstacy12[/QUOTE]
    +1
     
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