Re: Belichick, the media and "cheating"
posted at 10/3/2009 10:36 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Belichick, the media and "cheating"
Laz: Good point about the 'hero' needing to have warts and trials in order to become more approachable in our eyes. But to truly appreciate the "hero," one has to look at the entire heroic monomyth as laid out by Joseph Campbell which can be sum- med up as follows: 1/ Hero starts in an ordinary world and recieves a call/vocation/challenge to enter an unusual world of strange powers, characters, and events (call to adventure). 2/ If the Hero accepts the challenge/follows said vocation/answers the call to adventure, he/she must face tasks, trials, and tribulations - often alone - that will severely test that person to his/her physical/psychological/emotional core. 3/ If the Hero survives, he/she may achieve a great gift/goal/boon which often results in great self knowledge which may be used to improve the world. In other words, a Hero's warts and defects should make such a figure easier to understand and appreciate - but let us not forget the rest of the process or monomyth that made that person a Hero in the first place. u.d. Since Bob Knight is still one of my heroes - yes, I'm not perfect - and having followed his career since he was a player at Ohio State with the great John H, Jerry Lucas, and Larry Siegfried: I can tell you that he is one of those guys that is not easy to like (even at his nicest, some people are just like that), but when you become his friend, you've got one for life. Except for the chair throwing incident, most of the other incidents cited against him can be described as "he said-they said affairs." I'll give you a prime example told to me by local residents that I've known for many years who were not necessarily pro-USA, simply fair people who called it as they saw it. When Knight and the US basketball team entered the Robinson School gym to use their allotted practice time, they found the Brazilian women's team lounging around the court and flirting with one of the cops assigned to secure the area. Knight asked the Brazilians to leave the court, reminding them that their allotted time to use it was up - the Brazilians objected, and the local cop (supposedly sweet on one of the players, according to my source), came up to Knight more in the style of someone wanting to start a street fight and started to repeatedly shove and insult Knight - at which point, Knight decked him. BTW, this was generally acknowledged in the local media; but being in Latin America (even though PR is a US colony), the slant was that Bob Knight is an imperialist, capitalist, anglo pig who overstepped his authority. Now, it doesn't help that Bob Knight is very old school in a lot of things, particularly politics, which would not make him palatable to a large segment of the US media. Now as to another one of my heroes, John Wooden: he had to face a lot of excrement from fans and the media claiming that he couldn't win the "big one." Yes, it took him 15 years to "get it right," but when he did: look out world! So, even the Wizard of Westwood had to go through his own sea of naysayers.
Posted by Belenus555
I highly respect your fair perspective of things. You are much better than I. And there is no shame in loving either Belichick or Knight in my book. What I think is one man's opinion, and I have been the big fan of the "flawed hero" so I understand those who don't see it my way.
There are plenty of positive Knight examples out there, and I imagine Belichick has his too. And I have seen enough of Knight's quiet philanthropy to allow it to confuse my opinion.
But these positive things do not forgive the transgressions. I think Knight gives of himself (as I think others do) in hopes that it absolves their shortcomings. The problem is he never chose to work on his indescretions, but (IMO) saw his private giving as an adequate and acceptable trade off.
I am reminded of the lyrics of a song Jonathan Edwards wrote "Sunshine", "you can't even run your own life, I'll be damned if you run mine."
If you try to repair others but do not attempt to repair yourself, then all of the positive or overshadowed by the negatives and I think this describes Knight and Belichick.