Re: Belichick whiffs in the 3rd again...
posted at 8/6/2013 5:39 PM EDT
In response to pcmIV's comment:
In response to TexasPat's comment:
RESPONSE: I never said that Gooden was a star...just a guy that gave the team some production...and started for the Ravens in 2009. We'll see what Harmon does. Can I put you down as saying that Harmon will be the answer for the Pats at SS? Oh, I forgot...Tavon Wilson was the answer.
Why is it that your focusing soley on Gooden? Why are you neglecting to talk about Haloti Ngata, Flacco, Rice, Torrey Smith, Yanda, and Grubbs...hmmm???
Go back to the five year olds, son...LOL!!!
You counted Gooden (among a few other guys I took issue with) as a hit for Newsome in one of your earlier posts.
RESPONSE: That is not the same as pointing him out as a star...just a productive player.
The entire point of this back and forth has been to expose the double standard you have for evaluating BB's picks versus the picks of other GMs such as Newsome.
RESPONSE: And you're failing miserably.
You give other GMs far more benefit of the doubt when evaluating picks.
RESPONSE: Just how stupid can you be? Please list BB's draft picks since 2006 that match up with this list of Ravens' players drafted from 2006: Haloti Ngata, Joe Flacco, Ray Rice, Marshall Yanda, Michael Oher, Ben Grubbs, Torrey Smith, Lardarius Webb, and Paul Kruger?
Why would I talke about Ngata, Flacco, Rice, Torrey, Yanda or Grubbs?
RESPONSE: Yes...why would you...when you know it completely destroys your homeric opinion.
Those were good picks so I had no issue with you classifying them as such. It is disingenuous to compare Newsome to BB and then stack the deck in Newsome's favor by giving him credit for picks that are equal to or worse than picks of BB's that you have classified as busts.
RESPONSE: You have pointed consitently to one player...Gooden. It is you that are being disingenuous.
It is also disingenuous to cherry pick 2006-now and conveniently remove 2 of Newsome's weakest drafts the 2 years prior.
RESPONSE: All along I have said that BB, from 2006-present, hasn't drafted well...and was terrible from 2006-2009. I haven't even mentioned the Chad Jackson fiasco, when Bill selected him with the 36th overall pick in 2006. Who turned out to be better player, Jackson or Gooden? LOL!!!
Of course you aren't trying to have a genuine debate here.
RESPONSE: You keep repeating the same bs, over and over...and trying to change the topic. All you have spoken about as Gooden. Let's talk about the Ravens' players I mentioned above, and compare them to what BB has wrought. No?? on't want to do that? LOL!!!
You are just trying to push your agenda that Belichick is a bad drafter who (to use you words not mine) "would be fired if he was GM of another team".
RESPONSE: That not an agenda...that's an opinion.
Even if BB came out himself and said that Newsome was a better drafter it wouldn't matter. Why? Because Newsome is one of the top GMs in the league. Proving Belichick is inferior to Newsome (which I am not conceding)
RESPONSE: Stop right here. Are you seriously going to argue that BB is better at drafting then Newsome? Okay...please produce facts to support this opinion of yours. I'll be looking forward to it. If you don't we'll all understand why.
isn't proving that Belichick is a bottom tier drafter who would be fired if he was on another team. I think most people would agree Matt Ryan isn't as good as Rodgers or Brady. That doesn't make him a bottom tier QB. If anyone is acting like a child here it is you.
RESPONSE: BB has been awful. Why don't you get off your homer butt, and review his drafts since 2006...and you rate them. We'll see just how objective you are, son. Until you do, go run along with the five year olds.