Here's something I never get: here's a guy, Belichick, who probably works 80+ hours a week prepping for the game, and you think you know better than him when it comes to putting Ridley and Vereen into the game? Get a clue.
Posted by AlwaysTheGood

Never Fumbles, Solid Back, averaging 3.9 yards per carry..next question.
Posted by Ender587

Yeah, he sucks so much playing with a nagging toe injury, Lacrybabyan Tomlinson sat out PLAYOFF GAMES with the same injury. I did not see this '' he sucks '' thread last year when he rushed for 1000 yards and 13 touchdowns. Brady is on pace for 16 INT's, a career worst, does he suck too? I wish the fantasy football stat guys had their own site.
Posted by PatsRfineIn09

It really doesn't matter what we think, all that matters is what Belichick thinks, and here's my best guess as to what his priorities are for a running back behind Tom Brady: 1) No fumbles 2) Reliable blitz pick-up 3) No negative yardage carries 4) Effective in the red zone 5) Effective receiver (swings, screens, dumps) 6) Break away threat Green-Ellis has shown that he has #1-4 covered.  Until Vareen and Ridley show that they have at least #1-2 they won't get prime time playing time.  I'm not saying they can't do it but until Belichick is convinced, we won't see it. P.S. Prior to 2010 Kevin Faulk had #2-5 down cold.  earlier in his career he could fumble but he eventually became very reliable on #1, which is why we saw so him so frequently.
Posted by jimijazz

In Response to Re: Ben Jarvis Green Ellis sucks : 1000 yards or 6o some odd yards per game is not tremendous. we need a better all purpose back who also can breakaway and make the d pay
Posted by brdbreu

In Response to Re: Ben Jarvis Green Ellis sucks : 1000 yards or 6o some odd yards per game is not tremendous. we need a better all purpose back who also can breakaway and make the d pay
Posted by brdbreu

Here's something I never get: here's a guy, Belichick, who probably works 80+ hours a week prepping for the game, and you think you know better than him when it comes to putting Ridley and Vereen into the game? Get a clue.
Posted by AlwaysTheGood

In Response to Re: Ben Jarvis Green Ellis sucks : Yeah, and he also messes up many times. I'm not saying that other coaches don't. BB is the best in the business. But it doesn't mean he's infalliable. And it doesn't mean we shouldn't complain about it when he messes up. 
Posted by murghkhor

I often see criticisms here that the Patriots don't rush enough. Which would imply that since most teams are defending the pass, our runners would be killing it. Here you go. Yards per rush attempt. BJGE ranks 31st of those with atleast 50 attempts. He sucks.  Maybe the reason we don't run as much is we have no decent runners (or atleast Ridley and Vereen are not ready yet or something). http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/rushing/sort/yardsPerRushAttempt   RK PLAYER TEAM ATT YDS YDS/A LONG 20+ TD YDS/G FUM 1DN 1 Michael Vick , QB PHI 65 535 8.2 53 5 0 59.4 6 26 2 DeMarco Murray , RB DAL 147 834 5.7 91 7 2 75.8 1 38 3 Ben Tate , RB HOU 122 686 5.6 27 4 3 76.2 3 38 4 Fred Jackson , RB BUF 170 934 5.5 80 10 6 93.4 2 40 5 Darren McFadden , RB OAK 113 614 5.4 70 8 4 87.7 1 23 6 LeSean McCoy , RB PHI 188 1,019 5.4 60 11 10 101.9 0 60 7 Cam Newton , QB CAR 77 411 5.3 26 3 9 41.1 2 29 8 DeAngelo Williams , RB CAR 93 471 5.1 69 6 1 47.1 0 19 9 Matt Forte , RB CHI 186 926 5.0 46 11 3 92.6 1 38 10 Steven Jackson , RB STL 155 749 4.8 47 5 4 83.2 1 32 RK PLAYER TEAM ATT YDS YDS/A LONG 20+ TD YDS/G FUM 1DN 11 Willis McGahee , RB DEN 139 658 4.7 60 5 3 73.1 2 30 12 Pierre Thomas , RB NO 72 340 4.7 33 2 2 34.0 1 14 13 Adrian Peterson , RB MIN 186 872 4.7 54 6 11 87.2 1 45 14 Dexter McCluster , WR KC 72 336 4.7 24 2 0 33.6 1 20 15 Jahvid Best , RB DET 84 390 4.6 88 2 2 65.0 0 15 16 Jackie Battle , RB KC 95 436 4.6 34 3 1 43.6 0 18 17 LeGarrette Blount , RB TB 118 541 4.6 54 4 4 67.6 1 20 18 James Starks , RB GB 124 560 4.5 40 5 1 50.9 1 31 19 Jonathan Stewart , RB CAR 83 372 4.5 29 2 2 37.2 1 25 20 Frank Gore , RB SF 203 909 4.5 55 8 5 82.6 2 39 RK PLAYER TEAM ATT YDS YDS/A LONG 20+ TD YDS/G FUM 1DN 21 Ryan Mathews , RB SD 130 580 4.5 36 4 3 64.4 4 25 22 Michael Turner , RB ATL 200 888 4.4 61 9 8 88.8 3 43 23 Maurice Jones-Drew , RB JAC 212 941 4.4 41 5 5 94.1 3 47 24 Arian Foster , RB HOU 171 740 4.3 42 3 6 92.5 0 35 25 Kendall Hunter , RB SF 69 298 4.3 44 2 2 27.1 0 14 26 Michael Bush , RB OAK 139 599 4.3 44 5 5 59.9 1 33 27 Reggie Bush , RB MIA 133 567 4.3 36 4 4 51.5 3 23 28 Chris Ogbonnaya , RB CLE/HOU 70 291 4.2 40 2 1 41.6 2 10 29 Ray Rice , RB BAL 179 722 4.0 59 4 8 65.6 1 26 30 Beanie Wells , RB ARI 154 621 4.0 39 3 7 69.0 3 31 RK PLAYER TEAM ATT YDS YDS/A LONG 20+ TD YDS/G FUM 1DN 31 BenJarvus Green-Ellis , RB NE 136 541 4.0 18 0 5 54.1 0 30 32 Ahmad Bradshaw , RB NYG 111 440 4.0 37 2 5 62.9 0 29 33 Mike Tolbert , RB SD 76 296 3.9 29 1 4 32.9 1 17 34 Delone Carter , RB IND 84 327 3.9 42 2 2 32.7 2 15 35 Shonn Greene , RB NYJ 148 573 3.9 24 2 2 57.3 1 26 36 Isaac Redman , RB PIT 64 245 3.8 20 1 1 24.5 0 16 37 Tim Hightower , RB WSH 84 321 3.8 22 2 1 64.2 0 13 38 Marshawn Lynch , RB SEA 156 595 3.8 47 3 6 66.1 3 33 39 Rashard Mendenhall , RB PIT 136 517 3.8 68 2 6 57.4 1 24 40 Cedric Benson , RB CIN 167 634 3.8 39 2 4 70.4 0 31
Posted by murghkhor

The Patriots won 2 SB's with Antowain Smith and a less developed passing attack.  The O is good enough to win a SB.  The Patriots do not need an all-pro RB.  BJGE doesn't fumble.  He isn't a gamebreaker, but he keeps the ball in TB's hands.  The Patriots can win a SB with him and to me that is good enough.
Posted by pcmIV

In Response to Re: Ben Jarvis Green Ellis sucks : The Patriots can't afford to pay an all pro running back. The money is better used to address other short comings. Don't tell the pink hat fantasy whiners that though it's too much like reality.
Posted by glenr

In Response to Re: Ben Jarvis Green Ellis sucks : save your pink hat nonsense. if either of you knew any football youd understand. since you dont, it might be the smart thing to say less and read more (ie listen more). without a back who can make you pay with big runs(u dont need the all pro) or a wideout who can catch the ball outside the #s 1. defenses dont have to play the run and can key on (and hello, more easily stop the pass-have you watched the pats in the playoffs?) 2. better defenses can simply clog up the short and middle routes.
Posted by brdbreu

In Response to Re: Ben Jarvis Green Ellis sucks : Listen fool. You and the other clueless whiners should start a club where you can get together and whine about how every player on the team isn't in the pro bowl. You're team should be the Colts.
Posted by Evil2012

Green Ellis is OK, he does some things well, maybe even above average but he is not the future unless he improves. He's the only RB in the top 32 without a run of 20+ yards, everyone else has at Least 2 most have 4 or 5. There's also only 2 RBs with as many carries as he has who don't have a fumble. You want a RB to 1. make good runs. 2. Catch out of the backfield. 3 pick up blitzes. 4 Not turn the ball over. Hell do for now but they are going to look for a way to improve like they do in all positions.
Posted by shenanigan