Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

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    Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11306771/andy-dalton-cincinnati-bengals-reach-six-year-115-million-deal" rel="nofollow">http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11306771/andy-dalton-cincinnati-bengals-reach-six-year-115-million-deal


    Schefter also reported it on twitter.

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

    If the guaranteed money isn't too bad, I don't think this is a bad deal for Cincy. Dalton is a good QB overall, but he needs to find it in the post season (although I blame this partly on the HC as well).

    Plus, can they find anyone better? I'm not sure they could.

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

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    If the guaranteed money isn't too bad, I don't think this is a bad deal for Cincy. Dalton is a good QB overall, but he needs to find it in the post season (although I blame this partly on the HC as well).

    Plus, can they find anyone better? I'm not sure they could.

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    Wow. Thanks TB. He really helped the Pats against the cap

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

    In response to AyyyBoston's comment:
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    If the guaranteed money isn't too bad, I don't think this is a bad deal for Cincy. Dalton is a good QB overall, but he needs to find it in the post season (although I blame this partly on the HC as well).

    Plus, can they find anyone better? I'm not sure they could.

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    $19 mil a year?  Seems like an awful lot for Andy Dalton, with whom I've never been overly impressed.

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

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    Dalton is a good QB overall




    I don't agree.  49 picks in 48 games played is meh.

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

    All depends upon the guaranteed money

    Thjey also have to look at who could they get to replace him -

    Probably not any better than Dalton

    that said, as a Gm I dont see that sort of money


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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

    @pcm - Good might not be the best word...I suppose "decent" might be better. He reminds me of Eli Manning without the playoff accolades.

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

    In response to seawolfxs' comment:
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    All depends upon the guaranteed money

    Thjey also have to look at who could they get to replace him -

    Probably not any better than Dalton

    that said, as a Gm I dont see that sort of money


    Pat's Fan lost in Jet Land

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    That's my point. Decent QBs get this kind of money nowadays due to the uncertainty of whether or not the team can replace him...or the whole "known vs unknown" thing.

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

    Andy Dalton? Andy f**kin' Dalton?  Seriously? 

    But, as has been amply pointed out by my brother posters, the devil's in the deails.

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

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    Andy Dalton? Andy f**kin' Dalton?  Seriously? 

    But, as has been amply pointed out by my brother posters, the devil's in the deails.

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    I haven't really looked into it, but NFL Network is reporting it's similar to Kap's deal with a 2 year lock in and a pretty easy escape ater that.

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

    Wow, personally I think he is an average player, nothing more, nothing less. Just goes to show you that you have to have the QB...overpaying ...reaching...are all the things that are going to happen.

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

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    Wow, personally I think he is an average player, nothing more, nothing less. Just goes to show you that you have to have the QB...overpaying ...reaching...are all the things that are going to happen.

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    Basically this. QBs are not cheap at all nowadays. The average/decent ones get close to 20 million, and it only goes up after that for the better ones.

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

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    Thanks TB. 

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

    HAHAHA these new QB contracts are sorry man. talk about killing the cap for your team. this team still needs to sign AJ Green too. I seriously thought McCarron could give Dalton a run for the starting job.

    Amen we have Tom Brady who takes one for the team. Yes, his contract is 100% guaranteed but it's still not godawful vs. the cap for us. Thank You Brady

     
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    HAHAHA these new QB contracts are sorry man. talk about killing the cap for your team. this team still needs to sign AJ Green too. I seriously thought McCarron could give Dalton a run for the starting job.

    Amen we have Tom Brady who takes one for the team. Yes, his contract is 100% guaranteed but it's still not godawful vs. the cap for us. Thank You Brady

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    If the rumors of the deal basically locking the Bengals into Dalton for two years and allowing them to escape after are true, then it seems they are setting it up so that if they like what they see from McCarron (or if Dalton continues to disappoint), they can go a different route.

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

    In response to AyyyBoston's comment:
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    In response to mthurl's comment:
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    Wow, personally I think he is an average player, nothing more, nothing less. Just goes to show you that you have to have the QB...overpaying ...reaching...are all the things that are going to happen.

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    Basically this. QBs are not cheap at all nowadays. The average/decent ones get close to 20 million, and it only goes up after that for the better ones.

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    Yep - actually rather silly but apparently that's the market.

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

    Dalton is not bad, he just isnt great. He does have quite a few TD passes since entering the league and thats in part to A.J. Green but overall he is good enough because of the very good D they have. Same old story. Dalton has 2 years to win before his D starts to detoriate due to top defenders leaving for richer contracts.

    He is a big arm QB who has gotten better steadily but has to prove he can win in postseason but thats the same with lots of young QBs. I would put him on par w/ Detroits young QB without all the gaudy yards thrown due to having CJ.

     

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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

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    He is a big arm QB




    Isn't the biggest knock on Dalton his lack of arm strength?

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

    Quite the contract for a quarterback without a playoff win to his credit.

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

    I have never been sold on Andy Dalton. I sure wouldn't spend that type of money on him. 

    Thanks TFB!!

     

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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

    Here is a good article on Dalton and why he might struggle to live up to expectations.

    http://grantland.com/features/andy-dalton-cincinnati-bengals-pressure/

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

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    In response to TripleOG's comment:


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    He is a big arm QB


     


     




    Isn't the biggest knock on Dalton his lack of arm strength?


     


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    Maybe, Im not sure but its never looked like a problem to me. He has connected with more deep balls than any other QB to start his career I believe.  He has thrown 80 TD passes in his 1st 3 seasons, with only Manning and Brees topping him in that category. He threw too many pics last year(20) but also had 33 TDs and I think he had more attempts than he should have with that D and run game. I think they are grooming him to do it all which is what he will need to do once its time to pay guys later.


    All in all I think he is a pretty good QB but just hasnt won in playoffs yet which Im not gonna knock him for. Weve seen the best struggle in postseason when faced with tough defenses. In his division, he can only get better. Cincy is at the top of the north until Ravens/Steelers get back so Hey, he is part of that. I compare him to Flacco..except Flacc had more experience and put together an awesome postseason but he is nothing special either.


    QBs get lots of money. Do they deserve it?? IDk but the year before Dalton got there, they won 4 games. Since then, they have made the playoffs 3 years in a row. He will eventually win a playoff game but it aint easy. He has put them atop the division which is nothing to sneeze at.

     
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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million

    Supposedly a good amount of the money is tied to playoff escalators. Makes the deal look better if it's true.

     

     

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    Re: Bengals extend Andy Dalton - 6 years, $115 million


    He should really give AJ Green like 60% of that money, since he is the one who earned it. I don't get spending that much of your cap on a QB who looks to be chasing Peyton's playoff loss record. 

     

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