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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: BenJarvus Green-Ellis... : He did, can't help but wonder if his productivity had anything to do with getting probably the most touches he has ever had. As in the more carrys he gets the better he does GASP!?!?! Pound the rock!
    Posted by TrueChamp[/QUOTE]

    Maybe the number of carries helped, but right from the beginning of the game he was making great decisions. He started strong and just kept right on going.  Nice blocking too . . seemed like they were opening some great holes in the B and C gaps that Benny was able to exploit. 
     
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    I think Benny is the go-to guy for killing the clock. Ridley may be in there as a big play threat, but I like Benny's style. He gets what's there, doesn't turn the ball over, he is durable and reliable. I know Belichick appreciates that type of runner. I hope Law Firm stays our lead back, with Ridley and Woodhead coming in occasionally.
     
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    Where is zbellino?  He's been putting down Law Firm all season and trying to tell us how much better that other guy is.
     
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    I give BJGE credit and he secured his starting job. I never said Ridley was god, but after seeing him run the first few games, the way he broke tackles and got into the open field making people miss I felt he should have a shot at starting. I don't see anything wrong with that assessment. However the Jets are much better against the run than any of those other teams and that brought out the weakness in Ridley. When the right choice wasn't obvious he hesitated. 

     Unlike some people I see what is really there on the field and I don't cling to hope. Ridley needs experience and he'll continue to get it, but I won't be pushing for the start again after today until he proves he can repeat a good performance week after week. BGJE made a point today. 

     
     
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    I was very happy to see him have the game he did as the Ridley threads were getting out of control. Benny was a solid performer last season as well. I wonder how much the offensive game plan contributed to his great game; I can't remember the last time the Pats didn't line up shotgun for 90% of the game.
     
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    That 4th qtr drive with Benny carrying the load was as impressive a drive as I've seen the Pats execute in some time.  And I totally agree; most of what Benny got were very tough yards.  Good to see a Pats ground game come together.

     
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    [QUOTE]Where is zbellino?  He's been putting down Law Firm all season and trying to tell us how much better that other guy is.
    Posted by themightypatriotz[/QUOTE]

    Hey don't get on the guy. He's one of the few rational people on this board. I think if you look at the play on the field it made a lot of sense to give Rid more carries. He didn't live up to that today. No need to go after those of us who were pushing for Ridley like hounds smelling blood. 

    Anyway what I'd like to know is where all of those Merriweather bashers are? Both replacements are nothing but bench material and I haven't seen one of them come out and admit that it was a mistake letting him go. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: BenJarvus Green-Ellis... : Hey don't get on the guy. He's one of the few rational people on this board. I think if you look at the play on the field it made a lot of sense to give Rid more carries. He didn't live up to that today. No need to go after those of us who were pushing for Ridley like hounds smelling blood.  Anyway what I'd like to know is where all of those Merriweather bashers are? Both replacements are nothing but bench material and I haven't seen one of them come out and admit that it was a mistake letting him go. 
    Posted by Macrawn[/QUOTE]

    Great fun getting each others Case.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: BenJarvus Green-Ellis... : Hey don't get on the guy. He's one of the few rational people on this board. I think if you look at the play on the field it made a lot of sense to give Rid more carries. He didn't live up to that today. No need to go after those of us who were pushing for Ridley like hounds smelling blood.  Anyway what I'd like to know is where all of those Merriweather bashers are? Both replacements are nothing but bench material and I haven't seen one of them come out and admit that it was a mistake letting him go. 
    Posted by Macrawn[/QUOTE]

    I know he is, that's why I enjoy talking to him and don't mind ribbing him.
     
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    Ben Jarvus Green Ellis is the man.  I want every PATS player to succeed, including Ridley but those fans who were saying that Ridely was the end of Green Ellis are nuts.  What is not to like about this guy?  He's a great story and has played himself from undrafted obscurity to a role of premier running back on a Super Bowl contender, at least this far in the season.  No injuries, no fumbles, an absolute beast close to the end zone.  Man he was ripping off yardage against that vaunted YETS defense like he was playing against the college all-stars.  Give the man his due.  He is here to stay as a major part of the running attack in a constantly changing offense.

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: BenJarvus Green-Ellis... : Maybe the number of carries helped, but right from the beginning of the game he was making great decisions. He started strong and just kept right on going.  Nice blocking too . . seemed like they were opening some great holes in the B and C gaps that Benny was able to exploit. 
    Posted by prolate0spheroid[/QUOTE]

    Yeah, I noticed his blocking as well, he's very good at picking up blitzing linebackers the man has no fear at all, he "gets it" for sure.
     
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    Thats what I liked seeing too Rusty, was BJGE in on the shotgun snaps and 3-4 wide sets. What we have been talking about for over a year. Run out of different sets with a power back, don't annou8nce it by going shotgun no back 4 plays in a row, then bringing in Benny and the run formation.

    Who would have thought we would direct snap to Benny on 3rd down? What a ballsy but clutch play call after the timeout.
     
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    He has been a solid back who takes care of the ball right along.

    He was no more the "difference" than a relatively solid performance from the D, 300+ yards from Brady or 100+ yards from Welker.
     
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    [QUOTE]He has been a solid back who takes care of the ball right along. He was no more the "difference" than a relatively solid performance from the D, 300+ yards from Brady or 100+ yards from Welker.
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    Wow, so say BJGE is out this game with an injury, you think we still win? Because I didn't see Ridley running through any tight holes. I don't know why all of the shotgun spread defenders can't just admit when they are wrong.

    Without Benny gashing the Jets, Brady gets sacked more then he already was. Why do you refuse to admit what a consistent power run game does for this offense, any offense?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: BenJarvus Green-Ellis... : Wow, so say BJGE is out this game with an injury, you think we still win? Because I didn't see Ridley running through any tight holes. I don't know why all of the shotgun spread defenders can't just admit when they are wrong. Without Benny gashing the Jets, Brady gets sacked more then he already was. Why do you refuse to admit what a consistent power run game does for this offense, any offense?
    Posted by TrueChamp[/QUOTE]

    If he's out we still win. You have no proof of what Ridley would have done if he had another 20 carries. You have no case that Brady would not have put up even more points if he had thrown the 27 times BJGE ran.

    This team IS NOT going to have a power run game most of the time. Coach has stated he will run more when that is what will exploit the D he is attacking.

    Even saying somebody has to defend the shotgun/spread is ludicrous. It needs no defending. It is one of the key factors that has allowed offenses to step up and score away these days. You adjust to what the D is doing. If they are going to let you run and stop the pass you run more. Simple as that.

    Some of you people have to get your head on straight. Brady threw for over 300 yards. This is a big deal. There are only 7 guys averaging that much per game in the league right now. You have become numbed to that level of performance so much that it has become a ho hum event to you. This win was effected by an overall good performance from the team, including passing, running and defense. On the negative side, special teams and the O-line had some bad moments.
     
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    [QUOTE]Awesome game...27 carries of decisive power running. Thanks, Bill O'Brien.
    Posted by NY-PATS-FAN4[/QUOTE]
    With the way BenJarvus running like yesterday made me remmber the play off last year vs the Jets.  Ben didnot touch and line up much in the game, therefore, they lost that one.  I hope the offensive coach should use more often with the 2 power back that we have BenJarvus and Riddley.  Kevin Faulk and Woody (former Jets) are third down specialist.  We have 2 pro bowl TE like Aaron and Gronks plus Wes and Deion as a pro bowl receiver so whom are they gonna stop.  I think Bill O'Brien is smart enough to make the offensive call this year.
     
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    If he's out we still win. You have no proof of what Ridley would have done if he had another 20 carries. You have no case that Brady would not have put up even more points if he had thrown the 27 times BJGE ran.

    The proof is in the pudding babe. Ridley was stuffed all game, he ran behind the same line that Benny did. Brady threw 1 td against one of the best pass defense's in the league, he was also sacked HARD 4 times. It is fair to say that had we thrown the ball more, Brady would have been sacked more. Need to protect the best QB in the game by utilizing a run game that has been great for the past 20 plus weeks.

    This team IS NOT going to have a power run game most of the time. Coach has stated he will run more when that is what will exploit the D he is attacking.

    I don't want us to become a "running" team but they need to use a power run game more then they have in the past. Almost every "football guy" I listen to talks about how the Patriots lack of a run threat is one of the main reasons they didn't win a Superbowl in 07. Pat Kirwan, Tim Ryan,Carl Banks,The God Father Gil Brandt. Our passing game is the best in the league but when we don't utilize our runnig game it becomes predictable and we suffer the consequences. Do you deny this?

    Even saying somebody has to defend the shotgun/spread is ludicrous. It needs no defending. It is one of the key factors that has allowed offenses to step up and score away these days. You adjust to what the D is doing. If they are going to let you run and stop the pass you run more. Simple as that.

    Now I realize you and I probably are not far off here. I am not saying we need to be 50/50. I am saying that when Brady is torching a team and they sub in 7 d-backs or something to the effect then we need to start thumping them with the run. You can't say it is "simple as that" because Obrian has not successfully made these adjustments since he has been our OC, until the past 2 weeks.

    Some of you people have to get your head on straight. Brady threw for over 300 yards. This is a big deal. There are only 7 guys averaging that much per game in the league right now. You have become numbed to that level of performance so much that it has become a ho hum event to you. This win was effected by an overall good performance from the team, including passing, running and defense. On the negative side, special teams and the O-line had some bad moments.

    You treat this as if I am saying our pass game is not good and we need to run all the time. I am saying we are too reliable on our pass game when we have very effective running backs on the roster. It makes no sense to pound our spread down a teams throats no matter what they are doing on defense. That is what we have done until the last 2 games. Buffalo was another glaring example of the OC having a relapse and throwing 2-1 ratio when we were up all game.
     
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