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Best QB in the Past 5 Years?

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    Lest you forget, P Manning was the MVP in 08 and 09.   That should matter in the discussion.   Posted by UD6
    You still blowing Peyton? He's not even on your team anymore.
     
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    Lest you forget, P Manning was the MVP in 08 and 09.   That should matter in the discussion.  --------------------------------------- And lest you forget, its a complete and thorough mystery how Manning finished WAY ahead of Brees in the '09 voting despite throwing for fewer yards, fewer TD's, more INT's, lower QB rating, etc.. He's a great player of course but that was truly Manning frontrunning at its finest.
    Posted by OscarGamble


    My point exactly!!
     
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    In Response to Re: Best QB in the Past 5 Years? : I am going to assume you mean 2008 because in 2009 Manning threw for more yards than Brees.   As I previously noted, Brees also threw the ball 80 more times than Manning.  His team finished last in their division.  He had a worse td to Int ratio and and a lower completion percentage.   If you do actually mean 2009, its my opinion that the voters saw Manning's accomplishment of not losing a game under his watch with a rookie 4th and a 2nd yr 6th rdr as the difference, along with lesser defensive support.   Posted by UD6
    What are you talking about. Brees was last in his division in 09? Let me refresh your memory, the Saints won the SB for the 09 season against the Colts. Brees had more TDs, fewer INTs, a higher completion percentage! The highest passer rating in the league all while throwing 70 less passes. But Manning had 112 more yards...and he was named Manning.
     
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    Lest you forget, P Manning was the MVP in 08 and 09.   That should matter in the discussion.  
    Posted by UD6


    Payaton is no longer in the discussion. You better hope he comes to his senses and retires before he is injured permanently. Its not like he needs the money.
     
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    In Response to Re: Best QB in the Past 5 Years? : I see.  So this disussion is just about getting on everybody else's achievements in order to meet your objective, but no, Brady is off limits.  what a joke.   As for 2006 Tom Brady deserves credit for a great year, but he didn't take his team to the superbowl and his weapons were generally experienced high draft picks.  Manning made it to the superbowl didn't lose a game on his watch until the superbowl and did it with a rookie 4th and a 2nd year 6th who'd only caught 4 NFL passes the prior year. As for not agreeing with Manning as the MVP pick.  That's your preogative and bias.  It doesn't change the fact that Manning was the MVP those years.  In fact, he was the runaway pick in both years.   The question was who has been the best QB over the last 5 years.  P manning was not even in this conversation.  I simply brought up that you can't leave out the guy who won the freaking MVP 2 of those 5 years and a 3rd didn't play.  
    Posted by UD6

    Name the acheivements Brady has that he doesn't deserve...go on then!! It doesn't matter about voting as you're a manning fan and therefore a stats guy take a look at the stats from 09 at least there were better QBs that year simple as. 06 come on man what year were you watching who the hell is Reche Caldwell or Chad Jackson, they may have been taken in the 2nd round but that doesn't make them better players. I mean if you're going to talk like that you may as well bring into the equation the fact that Welker went undrafted, as well as Woodhead, as well as Green-Ellis etc. Stop bringing up the superior D thing as well man it's stupid, it works both ways look if Manning doesn't have the premier talent he may not be as good a passer but in saying that if he had used slightly less expenisive recievers during his career they may have won for championships...but he didn't at the end of the day and that's all that matters!

     
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    Lest you forget, P Manning was the MVP in 08 and 09.   That should matter in the discussion.  
    Posted by UD6



    NOPE
     
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    In Response to Re: Best QB in the Past 5 Years? : Mostly because it's offseason and I was a lil bored
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    I can see that.. this board has been devoid of really good chat stuff.  Let the draft begin!
     
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    Got to laugh at the people who say Michael Vick. Some of the ESPN ex players who surprisingly know nothing about the NFL.
     
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    Got to laugh at the people who say Michael Vick. Some of the ESPN ex players who surprisingly know nothing about the NFL.
    Posted by sporter81


    vick does not deserve consideration
     
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