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    Spoiled?

    It's outrageous to say fans watching a GM squander one of the greatest periods of opportunity in NFL history to completely dominate the SB legend by failing repeatedly to replace good defensive players is the fans being spoiled.

    It's more like, though they do appreciate a winning team, they are simply frustrated with the huge number personnel blunders committed that have stifled what could have otherwise amounted to so so much more.

    It's actually a damned shame.

     

     



    Please post Brady's stats in the last 3 AFC title games at home in Foxborough.

     

     

     




    I'm not going to help you cherry pick junior.

     

     




    How is POOR PLAY in straight AFC title games AT HOME, "cherrypicking"?  The Conf title game is the game you need to win to get to a SB, moron.

     

    It's an offensive/QB league, but you're going to ignore the part where your own SB sucks in these games?

    I'l help you:


    5 TDs, 7 INTs in the last 3 AFC title games at home.

    It's an inverted ration, dummy. THAT SUCKS.

    SUCKS.

    I am really, really glad you think those are good numbers, but even Brady himself would tell you how awful that is. And you know what?   Those numbers come in games when NE had LEADS.

    LEADS.

    He's not on his own trying to comeback, etc.  Worst postseason stretch of his career is 2007-2012 and I am not even counting 2009's playoff where he had 4 INTs, so I am being nice.

    Brady has singlhandedly almost tried to lose these games, to the point it looks like he's beig paid off to do so.

     

     




    DUH He's won more playoff games than anybody in history. Stop embarrassing yourself with your cherry picking which only displays your football ignorance junior. LMAO@U

     
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    .If put into proper perspective it's pretty amazing that they've had sustained success for more than a decade during the salary cap era.

     



    Not all that amazing. Put a MEDIOCRE team around a guy many call the greatest QB who ever lived and you're probably going to make the playoffs just about every time and might come close to winning it all. Put a good team around him and you probably have a dynasty.

     

     




    brady did not play well, i dont know what game you were watching. he was throwing the ball at receiver's feet, forcing the ball into tight spots that werent there....he is lucky he didnt throw 4 int's with how awful he was that game. lloyd and welker made some great catches in that game to make brady's stats look respectable. yes, wes dropped one easy pass that could have changed the game. he also made 4 or 5 catches that only a select few of receivers can make. also, the pats do have a good team around him, the gronkowski injury definitely hurt, but they still had a good o-line, a young and good running game, [ranked 1st in td's], a receiving core that included welker, lloyd, and hernandez....yes i know hern is a TE, but hes really more of a receiver the way they use him. the defense was also a top 10 defense once talib arrived....the defense was playing very well in the first half while talib was out there. once he was injured, they were forced in to putting marquice freakin cole and arrington in coverage, that was the game right there. so i agree they need more good players in the secondary, but besides that, you cant score 13 f.ucking points on offense and blame the defense, its just ignorant.

     

     



    Ya, it sux your boy Ridley personally killed 2 scoring drives and 7-11 points.

     

    TB killed 3-7 with the pick

    BB killed  potentially, 6-14 with his decision to punt from the 38 twice, because he respected the Balt D and didn't trust the Pats D.

    The Pats D made ZERO RZ stops. Case closed!

     




    the pats d made zero red zone stops because the ravens had an excellent gameplan once talib got injured and they attacked the mismatch of the century which was marquice cole on anquan boldin. obviously they were going to have a HUGE advantage in the red zone with that kind of a mismatch...also the pats made it to the ravens 25 six times, they only scored one TD....so whats more unacceptable, the #1 offense in the league scoring 13 points, or the #10 defense allowing three td's and one td when the pats turned the ball over at midfield? you see the difference in the game is that when the ravens defense made a play, their offense took advantage of it with the points, the pats offense didnt do that. they had the ball at midfield and went 7 yards and punted the ball right back to the ravens....that is awful. if you want to disagree with BB for him choosing to punt, fine....but what had the offense shown him to make him trust they could convert those plays????

     

     




    OK, One more time.  BB respected the Ravens D with good reason and didn't trust his own D with good reason.  Zero RZ stops, Zero picks and Zero fumble recoveries is not a good reason to trust your D, as a Pick, a fumble recovery, and 3 RZ stops is good reason to respect the other D.

     

    All teams punt, the Ravens did, and Flacco wasn't spectacular in fact he was down right poor in the first half, missing throws.  The D did fine up until the half but failed miserably in the second half as usual.

    If Ridley doesn't fumble ( a good Defensive play and gets one yrd into the RZ, it's a completely different game)

    The Ravens made the stops when needed and the Pats D, didn't.

    Defenses win championships!

     




    the offense and defense both stunk in the 2nd half, that i agree on. but when your top rated offense doesnt score a single point after halftime, you cant expect to win, espescially when they are turning the ball over. and yes, it wasnt all on brady, ridley caught the fumbilitis once again which has really held him back from being an elite running back.

     

     




    Well hate to disagree again, but if the D doesn't pizz away a half time lead, you can expect to win games.  Yes it does royally suck that the O couldn't score again but when that happens, you have to have a recourse.   They do not and haven't for years.

     

     




    keep a 6 point lead the whole second half without their top cb playing? cmon, i know you are smarter than that. if the offense had scored another td, you may have a point, but they didnt score at all in the 2nd half. you cant expect the defense to hold on to that slim of a lead the whole second half, espescially when the offense is turning the ball over.

     

     




    A 6 pt. lead, a 9 point lead, a 11 point lead, a 13 point lead, it doesn't matter.

     

    Look at all the losses, with the exception of the 9'rs, (tied in the 4th)  they all have the same ending.

    A lead with seconds or minutes left, it doesn't matter, they all have the same ending.

    And that includes when the O is scoring 30 +

     




    Hey, pinkhat:

     

    Does that ALSO include multiple turnovers by our offense with Brady tossing 2 or 3 INTs?

    Does it?

    They all have the same ending since we switched to a shotgun base spread where our offense DOES JACK SQUAT FOR ENTIRE HALVES, allowing the opponent to crawl back into it.

    I don't care if it's a D with Seymour, Bruschi, Harrison, Samuel, Vrabel, etc, on it or not.

     

     




    It all includes a defense that cosistantly puts up a 100+ DPR and sends every opposing QB to the HOF and gives them huge raises because of their incompetencies and can't hold there own bladders on the field for the past 5-6 years.

     




    They made Eli a legend.

     
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    DUH He's won more playoff games than anybody in history.Stop embarrassing yourself with your cherry picking which only displays your football ignorance junior. LMAO@U

     



    Cherry picking?

    Yes, tom lady has won more playoff games than anybody. But what he did early in his career is not really indicative of the QB he is now.

    Face it, since 2005 he's 8-7 in the playoffs and he personally has struggled in some big games. He's been mediocre at best in the playoffs over that time frame.

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    Team around him is a shadow of what it was troll. Learn the game fool.

     
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    Not only has his post season play been SUBPAR, his competative fire seems to all but have disappeared.



    The team around him clearly isn't what it used to be so his post seasons aren't apt to be at heir peak.

    The rest of your point is pure speculation with no basis in fact. Rather, everything we hear says you are dead wrong on his competitiveness.

     
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    lol...

    The D obviously isn't what is was in years past but we can admit that........




    I agree the D isn't what it once was, but that doesn't change tom lady's mediocre performances in the playoffs.

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    .If put into proper perspective it's pretty amazing that they've had sustained success for more than a decade during the salary cap era.

     



    Not all that amazing. Put a MEDIOCRE team around a guy many call the greatest QB who ever lived and you're probably going to make the playoffs just about every time and might come close to winning it all. Put a good team around him and you probably have a dynasty.

     

     




    brady did not play well, i dont know what game you were watching. he was throwing the ball at receiver's feet, forcing the ball into tight spots that werent there....he is lucky he didnt throw 4 int's with how awful he was that game. lloyd and welker made some great catches in that game to make brady's stats look respectable. yes, wes dropped one easy pass that could have changed the game. he also made 4 or 5 catches that only a select few of receivers can make. also, the pats do have a good team around him, the gronkowski injury definitely hurt, but they still had a good o-line, a young and good running game, [ranked 1st in td's], a receiving core that included welker, lloyd, and hernandez....yes i know hern is a TE, but hes really more of a receiver the way they use him. the defense was also a top 10 defense once talib arrived....the defense was playing very well in the first half while talib was out there. once he was injured, they were forced in to putting marquice freakin cole and arrington in coverage, that was the game right there. so i agree they need more good players in the secondary, but besides that, you cant score 13 f.ucking points on offense and blame the defense, its just ignorant.

     

     



    Ya, it sux your boy Ridley personally killed 2 scoring drives and 7-11 points.

     

    TB killed 3-7 with the pick

    BB killed  potentially, 6-14 with his decision to punt from the 38 twice, because he respected the Balt D and didn't trust the Pats D.

    The Pats D made ZERO RZ stops. Case closed!

     




    the pats d made zero red zone stops because the ravens had an excellent gameplan once talib got injured and they attacked the mismatch of the century which was marquice cole on anquan boldin. obviously they were going to have a HUGE advantage in the red zone with that kind of a mismatch...also the pats made it to the ravens 25 six times, they only scored one TD....so whats more unacceptable, the #1 offense in the league scoring 13 points, or the #10 defense allowing three td's and one td when the pats turned the ball over at midfield? you see the difference in the game is that when the ravens defense made a play, their offense took advantage of it with the points, the pats offense didnt do that. they had the ball at midfield and went 7 yards and punted the ball right back to the ravens....that is awful. if you want to disagree with BB for him choosing to punt, fine....but what had the offense shown him to make him trust they could convert those plays????

     

     




    OK, One more time.  BB respected the Ravens D with good reason and didn't trust his own D with good reason.  Zero RZ stops, Zero picks and Zero fumble recoveries is not a good reason to trust your D, as a Pick, a fumble recovery, and 3 RZ stops is good reason to respect the other D.

     

    All teams punt, the Ravens did, and Flacco wasn't spectacular in fact he was down right poor in the first half, missing throws.  The D did fine up until the half but failed miserably in the second half as usual.

    If Ridley doesn't fumble ( a good Defensive play and gets one yrd into the RZ, it's a completely different game)

    The Ravens made the stops when needed and the Pats D, didn't.

    Defenses win championships!

     




    the offense and defense both stunk in the 2nd half, that i agree on. but when your top rated offense doesnt score a single point after halftime, you cant expect to win, espescially when they are turning the ball over. and yes, it wasnt all on brady, ridley caught the fumbilitis once again which has really held him back from being an elite running back.

     

     




    Well hate to disagree again, but if the D doesn't pizz away a half time lead, you can expect to win games.  Yes it does royally suck that the O couldn't score again but when that happens, you have to have a recourse.   They do not and haven't for years.

     

     




    keep a 6 point lead the whole second half without their top cb playing? cmon, i know you are smarter than that. if the offense had scored another td, you may have a point, but they didnt score at all in the 2nd half. you cant expect the defense to hold on to that slim of a lead the whole second half, espescially when the offense is turning the ball over.

     

     




    A 6 pt. lead, a 9 point lead, a 11 point lead, a 13 point lead, it doesn't matter.

     

    Look at all the losses, with the exception of the 9'rs, (tied in the 4th)  they all have the same ending.

    A lead with seconds or minutes left, it doesn't matter, they all have the same ending.

    And that includes when the O is scoring 30 +

     




    Hey, pinkhat:

     

    Does that ALSO include multiple turnovers by our offense with Brady tossing 2 or 3 INTs?

    Does it?

    They all have the same ending since we switched to a shotgun base spread where our offense DOES JACK SQUAT FOR ENTIRE HALVES, allowing the opponent to crawl back into it.

    I don't care if it's a D with Seymour, Bruschi, Harrison, Samuel, Vrabel, etc, on it or not.

     

     




    It all includes a defense that cosistantly puts up a 100+ DPR and sends every opposing QB to the HOF and gives them huge raises because of their incompetencies and can't hold there own bladders on the field for the past 5-6 years.

     

     




    They made Eli a legend.

     



    Not completely; he set a record in 2011 with 15 4th QTR TD passes in the Reg Season and come from behind Ws.

     
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    Team around him is a shadow of what it was troll. Learn the game fool.



    And he is a shadow of what he once was in the playoffs as well.

    It's pretty funny that when presented with facts you resort to third grade name calling, truly a sign of weakness.

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    What facts? The fact his defense has gone from one of the best early in his career to one of the worst? That fact? I'm not calling you a name. I'm telling a troll that they are a fool if they simply ignore the facts.

     

     
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    .If put into proper perspective it's pretty amazing that they've had sustained success for more than a decade during the salary cap era.

     



    Not all that amazing. Put a MEDIOCRE team around a guy many call the greatest QB who ever lived and you're probably going to make the playoffs just about every time and might come close to winning it all. Put a good team around him and you probably have a dynasty.

     

     




    brady did not play well, i dont know what game you were watching. he was throwing the ball at receiver's feet, forcing the ball into tight spots that werent there....he is lucky he didnt throw 4 int's with how awful he was that game. lloyd and welker made some great catches in that game to make brady's stats look respectable. yes, wes dropped one easy pass that could have changed the game. he also made 4 or 5 catches that only a select few of receivers can make. also, the pats do have a good team around him, the gronkowski injury definitely hurt, but they still had a good o-line, a young and good running game, [ranked 1st in td's], a receiving core that included welker, lloyd, and hernandez....yes i know hern is a TE, but hes really more of a receiver the way they use him. the defense was also a top 10 defense once talib arrived....the defense was playing very well in the first half while talib was out there. once he was injured, they were forced in to putting marquice freakin cole and arrington in coverage, that was the game right there. so i agree they need more good players in the secondary, but besides that, you cant score 13 f.ucking points on offense and blame the defense, its just ignorant.

     

     



    Ya, it sux your boy Ridley personally killed 2 scoring drives and 7-11 points.

     

    TB killed 3-7 with the pick

    BB killed  potentially, 6-14 with his decision to punt from the 38 twice, because he respected the Balt D and didn't trust the Pats D.

    The Pats D made ZERO RZ stops. Case closed!

     




    the pats d made zero red zone stops because the ravens had an excellent gameplan once talib got injured and they attacked the mismatch of the century which was marquice cole on anquan boldin. obviously they were going to have a HUGE advantage in the red zone with that kind of a mismatch...also the pats made it to the ravens 25 six times, they only scored one TD....so whats more unacceptable, the #1 offense in the league scoring 13 points, or the #10 defense allowing three td's and one td when the pats turned the ball over at midfield? you see the difference in the game is that when the ravens defense made a play, their offense took advantage of it with the points, the pats offense didnt do that. they had the ball at midfield and went 7 yards and punted the ball right back to the ravens....that is awful. if you want to disagree with BB for him choosing to punt, fine....but what had the offense shown him to make him trust they could convert those plays????

     

     




    OK, One more time.  BB respected the Ravens D with good reason and didn't trust his own D with good reason.  Zero RZ stops, Zero picks and Zero fumble recoveries is not a good reason to trust your D, as a Pick, a fumble recovery, and 3 RZ stops is good reason to respect the other D.

     

    All teams punt, the Ravens did, and Flacco wasn't spectacular in fact he was down right poor in the first half, missing throws.  The D did fine up until the half but failed miserably in the second half as usual.

    If Ridley doesn't fumble ( a good Defensive play and gets one yrd into the RZ, it's a completely different game)

    The Ravens made the stops when needed and the Pats D, didn't.

    Defenses win championships!

     




    the offense and defense both stunk in the 2nd half, that i agree on. but when your top rated offense doesnt score a single point after halftime, you cant expect to win, espescially when they are turning the ball over. and yes, it wasnt all on brady, ridley caught the fumbilitis once again which has really held him back from being an elite running back.

     

     




    Well hate to disagree again, but if the D doesn't pizz away a half time lead, you can expect to win games.  Yes it does royally suck that the O couldn't score again but when that happens, you have to have a recourse.   They do not and haven't for years.

     

     




    keep a 6 point lead the whole second half without their top cb playing? cmon, i know you are smarter than that. if the offense had scored another td, you may have a point, but they didnt score at all in the 2nd half. you cant expect the defense to hold on to that slim of a lead the whole second half, espescially when the offense is turning the ball over.

     

     




    A 6 pt. lead, a 9 point lead, a 11 point lead, a 13 point lead, it doesn't matter.

     

    Look at all the losses, with the exception of the 9'rs, (tied in the 4th)  they all have the same ending.

    A lead with seconds or minutes left, it doesn't matter, they all have the same ending.

    And that includes when the O is scoring 30 +

     




    Hey, pinkhat:

     

    Does that ALSO include multiple turnovers by our offense with Brady tossing 2 or 3 INTs?

    Does it?

    They all have the same ending since we switched to a shotgun base spread where our offense DOES JACK SQUAT FOR ENTIRE HALVES, allowing the opponent to crawl back into it.

    I don't care if it's a D with Seymour, Bruschi, Harrison, Samuel, Vrabel, etc, on it or not.

     

     




    It all includes a defense that cosistantly puts up a 100+ DPR and sends every opposing QB to the HOF and gives them huge raises because of their incompetencies and can't hold there own bladders on the field for the past 5-6 years.

     

     




    They made Eli a legend.

     

     



    Not completely; he set a record in 2011 with 15 4th QTR TD passes in the Reg Season and come from behind Ws.

     




    Eli has had some good moments. But the biggest thing for him have been the two defensive collapses at the endgame by the Pats' D.

     
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    DUH He's won more playoff games than anybody in history.Stop embarrassing yourself with your cherry picking which only displays your football ignorance junior. LMAO@U

     

     



    Cherry picking?

     

    Yes, tom lady has won more playoff games than anybody. But what he did early in his career is not really indicative of the QB he is now.

    Face it, since 2005 he's 8-7 in the playoffs and he personally has struggled in some big games. He's been mediocre at best in the playoffs over that time frame.

     



    +1

     

    Some people think TB is forever young...or infallible for that matter



    They're fanboys.  Sick, deluded fanbys  who apparently have a raging man lust for Brady.

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    5 td and 7 ints combined in three home afc title games just isnt getting it done. brady is great and may go down as the best or second best to ever play the game, but to say he hasnt slipped off a bit in the playoffs is just ignorant. people also act like the super bowl defensed of 01-04 were so dominant....yes, they slowed down the rams to a tune of 17 points, but the panthers scored 29 and the eagles scored 21. in the two recent super bowl losses, the giants have scored 17 and 21 points, thats not much of a difference in points allowed from the previous three. also in the afc championship game vs pittsburgh, the defense allowed 27 points, but noone will bring that up.

     
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    .If put into proper perspective it's pretty amazing that they've had sustained success for more than a decade during the salary cap era.

     



    Not all that amazing. Put a MEDIOCRE team around a guy many call the greatest QB who ever lived and you're probably going to make the playoffs just about every time and might come close to winning it all. Put a good team around him and you probably have a dynasty.

     

     




    brady did not play well, i dont know what game you were watching. he was throwing the ball at receiver's feet, forcing the ball into tight spots that werent there....he is lucky he didnt throw 4 int's with how awful he was that game. lloyd and welker made some great catches in that game to make brady's stats look respectable. yes, wes dropped one easy pass that could have changed the game. he also made 4 or 5 catches that only a select few of receivers can make. also, the pats do have a good team around him, the gronkowski injury definitely hurt, but they still had a good o-line, a young and good running game, [ranked 1st in td's], a receiving core that included welker, lloyd, and hernandez....yes i know hern is a TE, but hes really more of a receiver the way they use him. the defense was also a top 10 defense once talib arrived....the defense was playing very well in the first half while talib was out there. once he was injured, they were forced in to putting marquice freakin cole and arrington in coverage, that was the game right there. so i agree they need more good players in the secondary, but besides that, you cant score 13 f.ucking points on offense and blame the defense, its just ignorant.

     

     



    Ya, it sux your boy Ridley personally killed 2 scoring drives and 7-11 points.

     

    TB killed 3-7 with the pick

    BB killed  potentially, 6-14 with his decision to punt from the 38 twice, because he respected the Balt D and didn't trust the Pats D.

    The Pats D made ZERO RZ stops. Case closed!

     




    the pats d made zero red zone stops because the ravens had an excellent gameplan once talib got injured and they attacked the mismatch of the century which was marquice cole on anquan boldin. obviously they were going to have a HUGE advantage in the red zone with that kind of a mismatch...also the pats made it to the ravens 25 six times, they only scored one TD....so whats more unacceptable, the #1 offense in the league scoring 13 points, or the #10 defense allowing three td's and one td when the pats turned the ball over at midfield? you see the difference in the game is that when the ravens defense made a play, their offense took advantage of it with the points, the pats offense didnt do that. they had the ball at midfield and went 7 yards and punted the ball right back to the ravens....that is awful. if you want to disagree with BB for him choosing to punt, fine....but what had the offense shown him to make him trust they could convert those plays????

     

     




    OK, One more time.  BB respected the Ravens D with good reason and didn't trust his own D with good reason.  Zero RZ stops, Zero picks and Zero fumble recoveries is not a good reason to trust your D, as a Pick, a fumble recovery, and 3 RZ stops is good reason to respect the other D.

     

    All teams punt, the Ravens did, and Flacco wasn't spectacular in fact he was down right poor in the first half, missing throws.  The D did fine up until the half but failed miserably in the second half as usual.

    If Ridley doesn't fumble ( a good Defensive play and gets one yrd into the RZ, it's a completely different game)

    The Ravens made the stops when needed and the Pats D, didn't.

    Defenses win championships!

     




    the offense and defense both stunk in the 2nd half, that i agree on. but when your top rated offense doesnt score a single point after halftime, you cant expect to win, espescially when they are turning the ball over. and yes, it wasnt all on brady, ridley caught the fumbilitis once again which has really held him back from being an elite running back.

     

     




    Well hate to disagree again, but if the D doesn't pizz away a half time lead, you can expect to win games.  Yes it does royally suck that the O couldn't score again but when that happens, you have to have a recourse.   They do not and haven't for years.

     

     




    keep a 6 point lead the whole second half without their top cb playing? cmon, i know you are smarter than that. if the offense had scored another td, you may have a point, but they didnt score at all in the 2nd half. you cant expect the defense to hold on to that slim of a lead the whole second half, espescially when the offense is turning the ball over.

     

     




    A 6 pt. lead, a 9 point lead, a 11 point lead, a 13 point lead, it doesn't matter.

     

    Look at all the losses, with the exception of the 9'rs, (tied in the 4th)  they all have the same ending.

    A lead with seconds or minutes left, it doesn't matter, they all have the same ending.

    And that includes when the O is scoring 30 +

     




    Hey, pinkhat:

     

    Does that ALSO include multiple turnovers by our offense with Brady tossing 2 or 3 INTs?

    Does it?

    They all have the same ending since we switched to a shotgun base spread where our offense DOES JACK SQUAT FOR ENTIRE HALVES, allowing the opponent to crawl back into it.

    I don't care if it's a D with Seymour, Bruschi, Harrison, Samuel, Vrabel, etc, on it or not.

     

     




    It all includes a defense that cosistantly puts up a 100+ DPR and sends every opposing QB to the HOF and gives them huge raises because of their incompetencies and can't hold there own bladders on the field for the past 5-6 years.

     

     




    They made Eli a legend.

     

     



    Not completely; he set a record in 2011 with 15 4th QTR TD passes in the Reg Season and come from behind Ws.

     

     




    Eli has had some good moments. But the biggest thing for him have been the two defensive collapses at the endgame by the Pats' D.

     



    The D was good in 2007; Samuel just flubbed one. Few will claim they had a good D the last 2 yrs.

     
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    .If put into proper perspective it's pretty amazing that they've had sustained success for more than a decade during the salary cap era.

     



    Not all that amazing. Put a MEDIOCRE team around a guy many call the greatest QB who ever lived and you're probably going to make the playoffs just about every time and might come close to winning it all. Put a good team around him and you probably have a dynasty.

     

     




    brady did not play well, i dont know what game you were watching. he was throwing the ball at receiver's feet, forcing the ball into tight spots that werent there....he is lucky he didnt throw 4 int's with how awful he was that game. lloyd and welker made some great catches in that game to make brady's stats look respectable. yes, wes dropped one easy pass that could have changed the game. he also made 4 or 5 catches that only a select few of receivers can make. also, the pats do have a good team around him, the gronkowski injury definitely hurt, but they still had a good o-line, a young and good running game, [ranked 1st in td's], a receiving core that included welker, lloyd, and hernandez....yes i know hern is a TE, but hes really more of a receiver the way they use him. the defense was also a top 10 defense once talib arrived....the defense was playing very well in the first half while talib was out there. once he was injured, they were forced in to putting marquice freakin cole and arrington in coverage, that was the game right there. so i agree they need more good players in the secondary, but besides that, you cant score 13 f.ucking points on offense and blame the defense, its just ignorant.

     

     



    Ya, it sux your boy Ridley personally killed 2 scoring drives and 7-11 points.

     

    TB killed 3-7 with the pick

    BB killed  potentially, 6-14 with his decision to punt from the 38 twice, because he respected the Balt D and didn't trust the Pats D.

    The Pats D made ZERO RZ stops. Case closed!

     




    the pats d made zero red zone stops because the ravens had an excellent gameplan once talib got injured and they attacked the mismatch of the century which was marquice cole on anquan boldin. obviously they were going to have a HUGE advantage in the red zone with that kind of a mismatch...also the pats made it to the ravens 25 six times, they only scored one TD....so whats more unacceptable, the #1 offense in the league scoring 13 points, or the #10 defense allowing three td's and one td when the pats turned the ball over at midfield? you see the difference in the game is that when the ravens defense made a play, their offense took advantage of it with the points, the pats offense didnt do that. they had the ball at midfield and went 7 yards and punted the ball right back to the ravens....that is awful. if you want to disagree with BB for him choosing to punt, fine....but what had the offense shown him to make him trust they could convert those plays????

     

     




    OK, One more time.  BB respected the Ravens D with good reason and didn't trust his own D with good reason.  Zero RZ stops, Zero picks and Zero fumble recoveries is not a good reason to trust your D, as a Pick, a fumble recovery, and 3 RZ stops is good reason to respect the other D.

     

    All teams punt, the Ravens did, and Flacco wasn't spectacular in fact he was down right poor in the first half, missing throws.  The D did fine up until the half but failed miserably in the second half as usual.

    If Ridley doesn't fumble ( a good Defensive play and gets one yrd into the RZ, it's a completely different game)

    The Ravens made the stops when needed and the Pats D, didn't.

    Defenses win championships!

     




    the offense and defense both stunk in the 2nd half, that i agree on. but when your top rated offense doesnt score a single point after halftime, you cant expect to win, espescially when they are turning the ball over. and yes, it wasnt all on brady, ridley caught the fumbilitis once again which has really held him back from being an elite running back.

     

     




    Well hate to disagree again, but if the D doesn't pizz away a half time lead, you can expect to win games.  Yes it does royally suck that the O couldn't score again but when that happens, you have to have a recourse.   They do not and haven't for years.

     

     




    keep a 6 point lead the whole second half without their top cb playing? cmon, i know you are smarter than that. if the offense had scored another td, you may have a point, but they didnt score at all in the 2nd half. you cant expect the defense to hold on to that slim of a lead the whole second half, espescially when the offense is turning the ball over.

     

     




    A 6 pt. lead, a 9 point lead, a 11 point lead, a 13 point lead, it doesn't matter.

     

    Look at all the losses, with the exception of the 9'rs, (tied in the 4th)  they all have the same ending.

    A lead with seconds or minutes left, it doesn't matter, they all have the same ending.

    And that includes when the O is scoring 30 +

     




    Hey, pinkhat:

     

    Does that ALSO include multiple turnovers by our offense with Brady tossing 2 or 3 INTs?

    Does it?

    They all have the same ending since we switched to a shotgun base spread where our offense DOES JACK SQUAT FOR ENTIRE HALVES, allowing the opponent to crawl back into it.

    I don't care if it's a D with Seymour, Bruschi, Harrison, Samuel, Vrabel, etc, on it or not.

     

     




    It all includes a defense that cosistantly puts up a 100+ DPR and sends every opposing QB to the HOF and gives them huge raises because of their incompetencies and can't hold there own bladders on the field for the past 5-6 years.

     

     




    They made Eli a legend.

     

     



    Not completely; he set a record in 2011 with 15 4th QTR TD passes in the Reg Season and come from behind Ws.

     

     




    Eli has had some good moments. But the biggest thing for him have been the two defensive collapses at the endgame by the Pats' D.

     



    did you even watch the other playoff games in 07 and last year? eli was phenomenal!! he outplayed rodgers in lambeau twice, not to mention embarassing matt ryan and the falcons...and also beating the 49ers.....yes, the pats defensive players were out of position on some key plays at the end of those games....but the two plays that were the biggest were really just great plays. eli escapes the sack and then just heaves it to tyree who catches it on his helmet, harrison was actually in position, tyree just made a heck of a play. and the manningham play last year was just a terriffic throw, thats all there is to it. moore and chung were in the play, but eli put it in a spot where only manningham could get it and he did.

     
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    5 td and 7 ints combined in three home afc title games just isnt getting it done. brady is great and may go down as the best or second best to ever play the game, but to say he hasnt slipped off a bit in the playoffs is just ignorant. people also act like the super bowl defensed of 01-04 were so dominant....yes, they slowed down the rams to a tune of 17 points, but the panthers scored 29 and the eagles scored 21. in the two recent super bowl losses, the giants have scored 17 and 21 points, thats not much of a difference in points allowed from the previous three. also in the afc championship game vs pittsburgh, the defense allowed 27 points, but noone will bring that up.



    Rumors abound that the RAMS were reading their press clippings, and were busy partying SB Week, not realizing the force they were going to dealing with. Refer to a recent Damien Woody interview on the Michael Kay show. Never take a game for granted; BB never does.

     
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    5 td and 7 ints combined in three home afc title games just isnt getting it done. brady is great and may go down as the best or second best to ever play the game, but to say he hasnt slipped off a bit in the playoffs is just ignorant. people also act like the super bowl defensed of 01-04 were so dominant....yes, they slowed down the rams to a tune of 17 points, but the panthers scored 29 and the eagles scored 21. in the two recent super bowl losses, the giants have scored 17 and 21 points, thats not much of a difference in points allowed from the previous three. also in the afc championship game vs pittsburgh, the defense allowed 27 points, but noone will bring that up.




    Spare us the Rusty speak, Rusty Clone. 

     

    Despite whatever may have happened in a particular playoff game, the Pats' D fo the good old days was leaps and bounds better than the D of recent years.

    Or are you seriously trying to make a case this mickey mouse club D is as good as they were? Put up or shut up Rusty Clone.

     
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    .If put into proper perspective it's pretty amazing that they've had sustained success for more than a decade during the salary cap era.

     



    Not all that amazing. Put a MEDIOCRE team around a guy many call the greatest QB who ever lived and you're probably going to make the playoffs just about every time and might come close to winning it all. Put a good team around him and you probably have a dynasty.

     

     




    brady did not play well, i dont know what game you were watching. he was throwing the ball at receiver's feet, forcing the ball into tight spots that werent there....he is lucky he didnt throw 4 int's with how awful he was that game. lloyd and welker made some great catches in that game to make brady's stats look respectable. yes, wes dropped one easy pass that could have changed the game. he also made 4 or 5 catches that only a select few of receivers can make. also, the pats do have a good team around him, the gronkowski injury definitely hurt, but they still had a good o-line, a young and good running game, [ranked 1st in td's], a receiving core that included welker, lloyd, and hernandez....yes i know hern is a TE, but hes really more of a receiver the way they use him. the defense was also a top 10 defense once talib arrived....the defense was playing very well in the first half while talib was out there. once he was injured, they were forced in to putting marquice freakin cole and arrington in coverage, that was the game right there. so i agree they need more good players in the secondary, but besides that, you cant score 13 f.ucking points on offense and blame the defense, its just ignorant.

     

     



    Ya, it sux your boy Ridley personally killed 2 scoring drives and 7-11 points.

     

    TB killed 3-7 with the pick

    BB killed  potentially, 6-14 with his decision to punt from the 38 twice, because he respected the Balt D and didn't trust the Pats D.

    The Pats D made ZERO RZ stops. Case closed!

     




    the pats d made zero red zone stops because the ravens had an excellent gameplan once talib got injured and they attacked the mismatch of the century which was marquice cole on anquan boldin. obviously they were going to have a HUGE advantage in the red zone with that kind of a mismatch...also the pats made it to the ravens 25 six times, they only scored one TD....so whats more unacceptable, the #1 offense in the league scoring 13 points, or the #10 defense allowing three td's and one td when the pats turned the ball over at midfield? you see the difference in the game is that when the ravens defense made a play, their offense took advantage of it with the points, the pats offense didnt do that. they had the ball at midfield and went 7 yards and punted the ball right back to the ravens....that is awful. if you want to disagree with BB for him choosing to punt, fine....but what had the offense shown him to make him trust they could convert those plays????

     

     




    OK, One more time.  BB respected the Ravens D with good reason and didn't trust his own D with good reason.  Zero RZ stops, Zero picks and Zero fumble recoveries is not a good reason to trust your D, as a Pick, a fumble recovery, and 3 RZ stops is good reason to respect the other D.

     

    All teams punt, the Ravens did, and Flacco wasn't spectacular in fact he was down right poor in the first half, missing throws.  The D did fine up until the half but failed miserably in the second half as usual.

    If Ridley doesn't fumble ( a good Defensive play and gets one yrd into the RZ, it's a completely different game)

    The Ravens made the stops when needed and the Pats D, didn't.

    Defenses win championships!

     




    the offense and defense both stunk in the 2nd half, that i agree on. but when your top rated offense doesnt score a single point after halftime, you cant expect to win, espescially when they are turning the ball over. and yes, it wasnt all on brady, ridley caught the fumbilitis once again which has really held him back from being an elite running back.

     

     




    Well hate to disagree again, but if the D doesn't pizz away a half time lead, you can expect to win games.  Yes it does royally suck that the O couldn't score again but when that happens, you have to have a recourse.   They do not and haven't for years.

     

     




    keep a 6 point lead the whole second half without their top cb playing? cmon, i know you are smarter than that. if the offense had scored another td, you may have a point, but they didnt score at all in the 2nd half. you cant expect the defense to hold on to that slim of a lead the whole second half, espescially when the offense is turning the ball over.

     

     




    A 6 pt. lead, a 9 point lead, a 11 point lead, a 13 point lead, it doesn't matter.

     

    Look at all the losses, with the exception of the 9'rs, (tied in the 4th)  they all have the same ending.

    A lead with seconds or minutes left, it doesn't matter, they all have the same ending.

    And that includes when the O is scoring 30 +

     




    Hey, pinkhat:

     

    Does that ALSO include multiple turnovers by our offense with Brady tossing 2 or 3 INTs?

    Does it?

    They all have the same ending since we switched to a shotgun base spread where our offense DOES JACK SQUAT FOR ENTIRE HALVES, allowing the opponent to crawl back into it.

    I don't care if it's a D with Seymour, Bruschi, Harrison, Samuel, Vrabel, etc, on it or not.

     

     




    It all includes a defense that cosistantly puts up a 100+ DPR and sends every opposing QB to the HOF and gives them huge raises because of their incompetencies and can't hold there own bladders on the field for the past 5-6 years.

     

     




    They made Eli a legend.

     

     



    Not completely; he set a record in 2011 with 15 4th QTR TD passes in the Reg Season and come from behind Ws.

     

     




    Eli has had some good moments. But the biggest thing for him have been the two defensive collapses at the endgame by the Pats' D.

     

     



    did you even watch the other playoff games in 07 and last year? eli was phenomenal!! he outplayed rodgers in lambeau twice, not to mention embarassing matt ryan and the falcons...and also beating the 49ers.....yes, the pats defensive players were out of position on some key plays at the end of those games....but the two plays that were the biggest were really just great plays. eli escapes the sack and then just heaves it to tyree who catches it on his helmet, harrison was actually in position, tyree just made a heck of a play. and the manningham play last year was just a terriffic throw, thats all there is to it. moore and chung were in the play, but eli put it in a spot where only manningham could get it and he did.

     



    Namath called it the best throw he's ever seen, equating it to throwing a football 40+ yrds into a Basketball net for a swish; and he made some good throws himself, so I would think he would know.

     
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    The D was good in 2007; Samuel just flubbed one. Few will claim they had a good D the last 2 yrs.

     



    It certainly was better then than now, but it was already deteriorating.

     

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