Boston Conspirocy Theory

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    Stupid.  Discussed at length.  Both calls correct.




    The Jets game was the right call and there happens to be an update from the NFL today. NFL is now showing that both the Patriots and Jets committed the infraction and warned all teams about pushing. So much for Rex calling BB a liar.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9888642/nfl-warns-all-32-head-coaches-continue-enforce-push-rule?ex_cid=espnapi_public



    Interesting.  So, the NFL admits the refs missed the call on Coples, too. Super. So, we still lose on inept officiating and refs getting involved in game deciding plays, but at least they admitted the officiating was not fair and even.

     




    Like it ever is? 

     
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    I guess everything evens out.  Remember all those championships we have been celebrating the last ten years?  Well the locals have been on a losing streak since then:

    Pats have lost last two Super Bowls they have been in.

    Bruins lost the Cup last year.

    Celtics lost to Lakers in last final appearance.

    Sox need to Rally or will have lost last World Series since winning in 2007.

     

     
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    Stupid.  Discussed at length.  Both calls correct.




    The Jets game was the right call and there happens to be an update from the NFL today. NFL is now showing that both the Patriots and Jets committed the infraction and warned all teams about pushing. So much for Rex calling BB a liar.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9888642/nfl-warns-all-32-head-coaches-continue-enforce-push-rule?ex_cid=espnapi_public



    Interesting.  So, the NFL admits the refs missed the call on Coples, too. Super. So, we still lose on inept officiating and refs getting involved in game deciding plays, but at least they admitted the officiating was not fair and even.

     




    Like it ever is? 



    On game deciding plays, no fan or paying customer, players or coaches should be seeing a new rule enforced in such fashion.

    We're not talking about PI calls that are subjective in the 2nd qtr here.

    Face it, that was as close to an influenced call from the sidelines as any fan will ever see. A week later, you're still here trying to spin it, so clearly, it's more than questionable, Busty.

     




    Stop with this new rule nonsense.  As if older rules take precedence over new rules.   That is just ridiculous.  It is either illegal or not and at critical points in games players need to know that the rules will be enforced.   To suggest that what a fan has to see is at all relevant is equally absurd.

     
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    Does anyone else think there's something umm . . . unmanly . . . about whining you lost the game because the refs made a bad call?  Please, this whole thread is an embarassment to a great sports city.  Maybe we should all be playing with Barbie dolls . . . 

     



    So, you approve of inept officiating? Did you see Game 1 and the call at 2B by DeMuth?  How is that whining?

    What is wrong with expecting quality officiating in a championship game?



    No.  I watch baseball only when it's absolutely necessary to prevent my wife from getting control of the remote and watching re-runs of Coronation Street. 

     

     
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    Stupid.  Discussed at length.  Both calls correct.




    The Jets game was the right call and there happens to be an update from the NFL today. NFL is now showing that both the Patriots and Jets committed the infraction and warned all teams about pushing. So much for Rex calling BB a liar.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9888642/nfl-warns-all-32-head-coaches-continue-enforce-push-rule?ex_cid=espnapi_public



    Interesting.  So, the NFL admits the refs missed the call on Coples, too. Super. So, we still lose on inept officiating and refs getting involved in game deciding plays, but at least they admitted the officiating was not fair and even.

     



    It mentions that Jets primed the officials before Jets attempt their in OT which is why they called it then and not before. So you have to give the Jets credit for taking advantage of the situation at that moment. But it doesn't justify the officials lack of not calling it on both sides for the entire game. The Jets caught the Patriots at the right time and played the officials at the right time.   

     
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    The Coples play was a lot less obvious than the Jones play.  Looks like the NFL has decided to call this very fine now if the report is right.  Jones put his hands on the other player's back and drove him into the line using his legs to power the drive.  Coples just jutted his arm foward into the back of the other player, not driving with his legs.  Looks like both are going to be illegal going forward.  But Jones's play was far more blatant than Coples' and a lot harder for the ref to miss. 

     

     
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    Stupid.  Discussed at length.  Both calls correct.




    The Jets game was the right call and there happens to be an update from the NFL today. NFL is now showing that both the Patriots and Jets committed the infraction and warned all teams about pushing. So much for Rex calling BB a liar.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9888642/nfl-warns-all-32-head-coaches-continue-enforce-push-rule?ex_cid=espnapi_public



    Interesting.  So, the NFL admits the refs missed the call on Coples, too. Super. So, we still lose on inept officiating and refs getting involved in game deciding plays, but at least they admitted the officiating was not fair and even.

     



    It mentions that Jets primed the officials before Jets attempt their in OT which is why they called it then and not before. So you have to give the Jets credit for taking advantage of the situation at that moment. But it doesn't justify the officials lack of not calling it on both sides for the entire game. The Jets caught the Patriots at the right time and played the officials at the right time.   



    My issue is not that coaches try to influence. My issue is the ref WAS influenced on a game deciding play.

    I think it's very dangerous to have never called a penalty with a new rule in the history of the NFL and then call it on a potential game deciding play, simply because one sideline asked for it to be called.

    There should be no favortisim from the refs. That's part of the oath they sign.



    Yes.  But coaches tell refs to look for things all the time.  Maybe they should outlaw that and penalize coaches for doing this?  If it helps alleviate a perception of bias it might be worth it. 

     

     
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    It was sadly the correct call.   However, it would have been nice if they had gotten this one right too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRw2_KvHcPk



    It's not the right call whatsoever.  Basically, Jim Joyce is saying that within 1 second, Middlebrooks needed to roll over to the 2b side to clear a path wide enough for Craig's ability to cleanly run to home WELL OUT OF THE BASELINE.  That's not a rule. A fielder has no responsibility to do that.

    Craig also pushes down on Middlebrooks's back, so how is that not blocking Middlebrooks from getting up?

    Once a player creates his own baseline like that, he's on his own.  If Middlebrooks moved his position, to impede, then you'd be correct.  Middlebrooks did not mover laterally and was in the baseline either.  That play is nothing. It's a bang/bang contact play that is ALWAYS deemed incidental due to the nature of how that play unfolded. YOu check to see if you can make it as the runner and you either go or stay. Period.

    The runner cannot just assume he has a clear path after turning his head back around to run forward. If Craig looks to see where Middlebrooks was first, he would simply take an inside path and run down the baseline.

    As per usual here, Catsfish in recent weeks, you are incorrect.

    Just because the broadcasters, some in the media, the union umps with Torre sit there and tell us it's correct, that doesn't mean it is. 

     



    A fielder has the responsibility to not be in the way.  It doesn't matter why he was there or if he intended to be in the there.  Technically the baseline is within three feet of the line. 




    Bingo!! MeadowlandMike is also correct.  Man, I am so tired of Rusty acting like he knows it all.  I know Meadowland Mike gets a lot of crap in this forum but he has some good points and he is correct here.  How does that make Rusty look!  Hahaha!!!



    What do you mean, "bingo"? Above, Bustchise is saying that there is an "argument for both sides".

    Now, he is changing his initial honest opinion to troll.

    And, finally, Middlebrooks has the right to field the ball at the bag.  The "3 feet of space" outside a baseline factor only comes into play if Middlebrooks initiates movement into the area. 

    He didn't. He was already there fielding a ball at the bag. That's not obstruction.

    Again, this all happened within 1 second of time elapsing.   The obstruction rule is applied when the fielder is moving into the path of the runner. Middlebrooks was on the ground from the previous play, not moving anywhere.  

    You're a moron.  The reason why people are talking about this call like this is because it's more than questionable and a game deciding call.

     




    BINGO!  He also said it didn't matter if incidental or not, and that is exactly what I said and the rules state!  So yes, BINGO!!  He was right also and you were once again wrong.

     

     
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    It was sadly the correct call.   However, it would have been nice if they had gotten this one right too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRw2_KvHcPk



    It's not the right call whatsoever.  Basically, Jim Joyce is saying that within 1 second, Middlebrooks needed to roll over to the 2b side to clear a path wide enough for Craig's ability to cleanly run to home WELL OUT OF THE BASELINE.  That's not a rule. A fielder has no responsibility to do that.

    Craig also pushes down on Middlebrooks's back, so how is that not blocking Middlebrooks from getting up?

    Once a player creates his own baseline like that, he's on his own.  If Middlebrooks moved his position, to impede, then you'd be correct.  Middlebrooks did not mover laterally and was in the baseline either.  That play is nothing. It's a bang/bang contact play that is ALWAYS deemed incidental due to the nature of how that play unfolded. YOu check to see if you can make it as the runner and you either go or stay. Period.

    The runner cannot just assume he has a clear path after turning his head back around to run forward. If Craig looks to see where Middlebrooks was first, he would simply take an inside path and run down the baseline.

    As per usual here, Catsfish in recent weeks, you are incorrect.

    Just because the broadcasters, some in the media, the union umps with Torre sit there and tell us it's correct, that doesn't mean it is. 

     



    A fielder has the responsibility to not be in the way.  It doesn't matter why he was there or if he intended to be in the there.  Technically the baseline is within three feet of the line. 




    Bingo!! MeadowlandMike is also correct.  Man, I am so tired of Rusty acting like he knows it all.  I know Meadowland Mike gets a lot of crap in this forum but he has some good points and he is correct here.  How does that make Rusty look!  Hahaha!!!



    What do you mean, "bingo"? Above, Bustchise is saying that there is an "argument for both sides".

    Now, he is changing his initial honest opinion to troll.

    And, finally, Middlebrooks has the right to field the ball at the bag.  The "3 feet of space" outside a baseline factor only comes into play if Middlebrooks initiates movement into the area. 

    He didn't. He was already there fielding a ball at the bag. That's not obstruction.

    Again, this all happened within 1 second of time elapsing.   The obstruction rule is applied when the fielder is moving into the path of the runner. Middlebrooks was on the ground from the previous play, not moving anywhere.  

    You're a moron.  The reason why people are talking about this call like this is because it's more than questionable and a game deciding call.

     




    I think the bingo aspect was my correction to your claim that he was out of the baseline by explaining to you that the baseline is within three feet of the line and to explain to you that the reason or intention as to why a player is obstructing is irrelevant.  

     
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    Last nights call unfortanutly was the correct call, I think the rule is just a bad rule.

    The Pats game and the Sox game, I hate to see games decided on fluke things like what happened last night and last week.



    people we have Clay Bucholtz tonight in the most important game of the year. He's only pitching with a tired arm.  

     
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    Stupid.  Discussed at length.  Both calls correct.




    The Jets game was the right call and there happens to be an update from the NFL today. NFL is now showing that both the Patriots and Jets committed the infraction and warned all teams about pushing. So much for Rex calling BB a liar.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9888642/nfl-warns-all-32-head-coaches-continue-enforce-push-rule?ex_cid=espnapi_public



    Interesting.  So, the NFL admits the refs missed the call on Coples, too. Super. So, we still lose on inept officiating and refs getting involved in game deciding plays, but at least they admitted the officiating was not fair and even.

     



    It mentions that Jets primed the officials before Jets attempt their in OT which is why they called it then and not before. So you have to give the Jets credit for taking advantage of the situation at that moment. But it doesn't justify the officials lack of not calling it on both sides for the entire game. The Jets caught the Patriots at the right time and played the officials at the right time.   



    My issue is not that coaches try to influence. My issue is the ref WAS influenced on a game deciding play.

    I think it's very dangerous to have never called a penalty with a new rule in the history of the NFL and then call it on a potential game deciding play, simply because one sideline asked for it to be called.

    There should be no favortisim from the refs. That's part of the oath they sign.



    By claiming that the ref was influenced, you are stating that the ref called a penalty that did not exist.  It clearly did.

     
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    I still think it was a tough call.  But what if the Cards had lost?  They would have had a legit claim that they got shafted.  I think JF is as much to blame for that loss as anyone.  He is not as good with the Xs & Os as Tito.



    Yes, and I agree.  If the Sox had a base runner going home and that happened and they didn't get the call we would all be furious and we would have a right to be furious.

    With the pushing call last weekend, the ref was right there, it would have been horrible for him NOT to make the call against the Pats.

    Can't really argue for the Pats or Sox, as both calls were correct, unfortunately.  If I could make an argument, it would be that Craig was out of the baseline.  That's about the best argument you could make.

     
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    It was the correct call. Middlebrooks lifted his feet up. That tripped I believe craig. Havey raises a good point the umps were bad as well.

     
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    Pats call,the worst call altho both were bad. The same ump who made the "safe" call in the first game at 2nd base.



    No waaay?  You serious?

     
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    Pats call,the worst call altho both were bad. The same ump who made the "safe" call in the first game at 2nd base.



    No waaay?  You serious?



    Right in front of him brutal . 

     
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    IMHO - blaming a loss on officials (especially when it proves out to be an actual infraction) is embarrassing! And any fan that foams at the mouth complaining when they are clearly wrong is absolutely pathetic!!!!!!!

    BB admitted he misunderstood the rule and was wrong but certain people want to protect their binky!

    If our teams put themselves into position that one play will lose the game then we deserved to lose the game....it's realtively simple. Unless you are simple, then not so much!

    Sad

     
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    I still think it was a tough call.  But what if the Cards had lost?  They would have had a legit claim that they got shafted.  I think JF is as much to blame for that loss as anyone.  He is not as good with the Xs & Os as Tito.



    Yes, and I agree.  If the Sox had a base runner going home and that happened and they didn't get the call we would all be furious and we would have a right to be furious.

    With the pushing call last weekend, the ref was right there, it would have been horrible for him NOT to make the call against the Pats.

    Can't really argue for the Pats or Sox, as both calls were correct, unfortunately.  If I could make an argument, it would be that Craig was out of the baseline.  That's about the best argument you could make.



    Umm, why wasn't it made against Coples in regulation then?

    http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9888642/nfl-warns-all-32-head-coaches-continue-enforce-push-rule

    Face it, no one was thinking of that rule in either case, but the refs felt obligated to do so in OT after being threatened by the Jets sidelines.

    FACT

    Stop trolling. THe board was so much better with you gone before.




    Stop making lame excuses.  The board was so much better when you are banned.  You are a joke.  Clearly you don't know anything about football or baseball except for what you read and still you are wrong.  

    Don't you get it, nobody here likes you and everyone knows that you lie and post false facts.  You are a troll, you are a fraud.  You have many screen names here that you use every day.  Maybey that poster is right, maybe you don't have a job!  We all know you spend all day here with your many screen names.  You are a L-O-S-E-R here and in life.

     
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    I still think it was a tough call.  But what if the Cards had lost?  They would have had a legit claim that they got shafted.  I think JF is as much to blame for that loss as anyone.  He is not as good with the Xs & Os as Tito.



    Yes, and I agree.  If the Sox had a base runner going home and that happened and they didn't get the call we would all be furious and we would have a right to be furious.

    With the pushing call last weekend, the ref was right there, it would have been horrible for him NOT to make the call against the Pats.

    Can't really argue for the Pats or Sox, as both calls were correct, unfortunately.  If I could make an argument, it would be that Craig was out of the baseline.  That's about the best argument you could make.



    Umm, why wasn't it made against Coples in regulation then?

    http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9888642/nfl-warns-all-32-head-coaches-continue-enforce-push-rule

    Face it, no one was thinking of that rule in either case, but the refs felt obligated to do so in OT after being threatened by the Jets sidelines.

    FACT

    Stop trolling. THe board was so much better with you gone before.




    What kind of threats might the Jets have perpetrated upon NFL officials to get them to make a call? 

     
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    IMHO - blaming a loss on officials (especially when it proves out to be an actual infraction) is embarrassing! And any fan that foams at the mouth complaining when they are clearly wrong is absolutely pathetic!!!!!!!

    BB admitted he misunderstood the rule and was wrong but certain people want to protect their binky!

    If our teams put themselves into position that one play will lose the game then we deserved to lose the game....it's realtively simple. Unless you are simple, then not so much!

    Sad



    I don't think wanting rules applied fairly on game deciding plays is "absolutely pathetic" at all.

    The reason why these two calls are getting so much press is because they decided the games.

    Is this really that hard to comprehend here?  One was in OT and one was in the 9th innning of a 4-4 WS game.

    What a moron you are.



    Are you a big fan of make up calls in the NBA?  The kind of call where they miss a foul, but then call one later that didn't exist?

     
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    It was the correct call. Middlebrooks lifted his feet up. That tripped I believe craig. Havey raises a good point the umps were bad as well.



    THat doesn't matter what Middlebrooks does in the same physical place he was in.  He has the right to get to his feet, no matter how he chooses to do it. He could have slide himself on his torso with elbows and been on his knees and he'd still be well within his rights to get to his feet. Milddlebrooks never changed his position from where he fielded the ball from, so it's not obstruction.

    Even if Middlebrooks started his motion quicker and got up faster, say to the point where he was in a crouched position and Craig ran into him, that's still not the right call.  Obstruction is about moving your actual position on the diamond, to impede.

    Craig cannot impede the fielder as the baserunner, especially bordering on being way out of the baseline.

    There is a box drawn in the dirt, in foul territory, that is technically the baseline corridor that the runner needs to abide by in the rules.  He was clearly a good 4 or 5 feet outside that.

    When you see interference called on a runner on throws down the first baseline for example? That's because the runner is impeding the defender's angle to the first baseman, which is illegal.

     



    Me, Havey I would have not made the call . Same as the call last week.people can say well it should have not come down to that, well it did . It cost the pats the ball at the 46 with 3 or 4 fresh downs. A couple of first downs they are in FG range . It's the first time I think ever 2 calls in 6 days that u never see jmo.

     
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    It was the correct call. Middlebrooks lifted his feet up. That tripped I believe craig. Havey raises a good point the umps were bad as well.



    THat doesn't matter what Middlebrooks does in the same physical place he was in.  He has the right to get to his feet, no matter how he chooses to do it. He could have slide himself on his torso with elbows and been on his knees and he'd still be well within his rights to get to his feet. Milddlebrooks never changed his position from where he fielded the ball from, so it's not obstruction.

    Even if Middlebrooks started his motion quicker and got up faster, say to the point where he was in a crouched position and Craig ran into him, that's still not the right call.  Obstruction is about moving your actual position on the diamond, to impede.

    Craig cannot impede the fielder as the baserunner, especially bordering on being way out of the baseline.

    There is a box drawn in the dirt, in foul territory, that is technically the baseline corridor that the runner needs to abide by in the rules.  He was clearly a good 4 or 5 feet outside that.

    When you see interference called on a runner on throws down the first baseline for example? That's because the runner is impeding the defender's angle to the first baseman, which is illegal.

     




    Like I said pathetic!!

     
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    It was sadly the correct call.   However, it would have been nice if they had gotten this one right too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRw2_KvHcPk



    It's not the right call whatsoever.  Basically, Jim Joyce is saying that within 1 second, Middlebrooks needed to roll over to the 2b side to clear a path wide enough for Craig's ability to cleanly run to home WELL OUT OF THE BASELINE.  That's not a rule. A fielder has no responsibility to do that.

    Craig also pushes down on Middlebrooks's back, so how is that not blocking Middlebrooks from getting up?

    Once a player creates his own baseline like that, he's on his own.  If Middlebrooks moved his position, to impede, then you'd be correct.  Middlebrooks did not mover laterally and was in the baseline either.  That play is nothing. It's a bang/bang contact play that is ALWAYS deemed incidental due to the nature of how that play unfolded. YOu check to see if you can make it as the runner and you either go or stay. Period.

    The runner cannot just assume he has a clear path after turning his head back around to run forward. If Craig looks to see where Middlebrooks was first, he would simply take an inside path and run down the baseline.

    As per usual here, Catsfish in recent weeks, you are incorrect.

    Just because the broadcasters, some in the media, the union umps with Torre sit there and tell us it's correct, that doesn't mean it is. 

     




    Why can't you understand that how, why or the intent of a player obstructing is not relevant to being called for obstructing?

     
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    I still think it was a tough call.  But what if the Cards had lost?  They would have had a legit claim that they got shafted.  I think JF is as much to blame for that loss as anyone.  He is not as good with the Xs & Os as Tito.



    Yes, and I agree.  If the Sox had a base runner going home and that happened and they didn't get the call we would all be furious and we would have a right to be furious.

    With the pushing call last weekend, the ref was right there, it would have been horrible for him NOT to make the call against the Pats.

    Can't really argue for the Pats or Sox, as both calls were correct, unfortunately.  If I could make an argument, it would be that Craig was out of the baseline.  That's about the best argument you could make.



    Umm, why wasn't it made against Coples in regulation then?

    http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9888642/nfl-warns-all-32-head-coaches-continue-enforce-push-rule

    Face it, no one was thinking of that rule in either case, but the refs felt obligated to do so in OT after being threatened by the Jets sidelines.

    FACT

    Stop trolling. THe board was so much better with you gone before.




    Stop making lame excuses.  The board was so much better when you are banned.  You are a joke.  Clearly you don't know anything about football or baseball except for what you read and still you are wrong.  

    Don't you get it, nobody here likes you and everyone knows that you lie and post false facts.  You are a troll, you are a fraud.  You have many screen names here that you use every day.  Maybey that poster is right, maybe you don't have a job!  We all know you spend all day here with your many screen names.  You are a L-O-S-E-R here and in life.



    I have on screen name, TFB12. One.  It's not my fault insecure people go running to get me banned for no reason, other than being uptight they are wrong and embarrassed as such.

    You don't even know about the baseline corridor a runner needs to stick to on the 1st and 3rd base lines.

    LOL

    That proves you know nothing about baseball. 

    Bludgeoned.




    You couldn't be more wrong here Rusty!  Clearly you know even less about baseball then you do football which really isn't saying much!  hahahaha!  Matter of fact pretty much the entire baseball nation agrees with the call just like pretty much the entire football nation agreed with the penalty last week.

    You are a loser.  You have more then 1 screen name here and you know it.  You are a compulsive liar!!!  What a joke.

     
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    Re: Boston Conspirocy Theory

    Bottom line...http://www.nflevolution.com/article/report:-nfl-tells-coaches-fg-safety-rules-will-be-watched-closely?ref=0ap2000000270038

    The NFL admits it gave the jets the game.

    But as a Pats fan that is not an excuse. The PAts blew the game by making many mistakes and the jets get some credit for playing well. 

    Lets rise above the Miami and NO fans who blame the refs.

     
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    Re: Boston Conspirocy Theory

    In response to digger0862's comment:

    Does it matter if the runner is off the baseline? It should.

    Allen Craig #21 of the St. Louis Cardinals




    good point the runner was kinda Inside -- never caught that?

     
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