Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

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    My fault 24 TDs and 17 INTs - pretty pedestrian




    His playoff total is 38 and 20. We can all make things look like we want by parsing the timeframe.

    So... your great challenge to name two good playoff games in the last 12 was met and obliterated.

    Your lies about TD/INT was exposed.

    And your artificial manipulation of the timeframe has been duly noted.

     

    Take a week or two off and regroup. You've been owned.

     



    Nobody's better than professor babe at parsing.  I don't give him credit for much, but he's a master parser.




    Prove it or zip it troll.



    babe,  it's common knowledge.  It would be like asking me to prove that water is wet.




    As expected, the troll can't prove squat and is simply lying again. Everybody hates you troll.

    Now go brush up on your "harmless college pranks".



    Poor guy babe.  It's got nothing to do with "can't"but everything to do with it being unnecessary.  Thus the water wet comment.  

     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

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    AZ.. OMG, no SB win since 2005??!!  Must make Jets fans feel much better since they haven't been to a SB since 1967.  I'll say this again, at least we have a team that gets to the SB a bit more often than most teams.  Enjoy the ride!




    The Ride is great. but the comparrisions to the 1990's Atlanta Braves (can no longer win the Big One) is the embarrassing piece. Somehow, after winning 3 of 4, with ALL of us bragging on them, going 0-2 in SB's since, and 0-every season since 2005's game, while using the old "at least we won games and GOT there!" story line is not the stuff champions are made of. It's a resignation that just getting to the game is good enough. THAT'S not good enough, for an alleged dynasty, even a short lived one. 

     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

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    Tom Brady has led the Pats to a division title every year as a starter except for one.

    Tom Brady has led the Pats to the conference championship 6 out of 10 times as a starter.

    Tom Brady has led the Pats to the Super Bowl 5 out of 10 times as a starter.

    And he won 3 Super Bowls.

    That is all.

    For now.



    Keep going....... Tom Brady hasn't won a Super Bowl since 2005.

    Tom Brady is 0-2 in his last two Super Bowl appearences.

    Let's make sure that, when looking at history, we look at it ALL. Brady doesn't and hasn't won three Super Bowls all on his own. Just, since 2005, he and the team have been "lacking" in achieving this goal.

    (OMG! Now I know I'm going to have Babe jump this post!)



    Why don't we wait until he makes History this Sunday by passing Joe Montana with the most playoff wins in the HISTORY of the sport!  Then we can sit back and wait until his career is done before passing judgement on where is stands. 

    You Trolls should find something else to do now that your team is out of the running AGAIN.  I know go to the B's board and bug them about the Rangers game coming up next weekend!



    Hmmmm.... playoff wins....... only "playoff wins".......Means nothing unless it equates to SB championships. Otherwise, it's a simple case of playing 16 games to see what 12 teams go to the playoffs (For you mathmatically challenged fans out there, that is 37.5% yearly go to the post season. For those STILL not understanding, that means over 1/3 of all teams go to the playoffs. And, like the NHL, and NBA, eventually this will be a reverse number when only 37.5% WON'T go.)

    I seem to recall a couple of years ago when we'd debate playoffs with folks like JESTS!, Colts, Steelers, and Broke Back fans, they'd continually point out the lame division the Pats play in. We all, including me, rushed in saying they only play the games they have scheduled, they're in teh division, so deal with it, etc. Even with 10 "gimmies" on schedule year in and year out, it all came down to winning the division. Then along comes the Seahawks, won their division (went 6-0 in fact), and made the playoffs with a 7-9 record. Then, a LOT of you got incredulous. Tried to move the bar for qualification to include "must have a winning record" (I guess that even 8-8 wasn't good enough), to "must have winning record vs other conference qualifiers", and we even had a short term poster that actually advocated for making qualification being the playoff qualifiers  MUST have a win total equal to the average of the top 6 qualifiers (of course after all NFL tiebreakers have been determined). The NFL rule is plain and simple: ALL division winners will advance.

    Question: Who is the MLB all-time leader in post season HR's? (NOT a trick question). If you say Babe Ruth, Reggie Jackson, or anyone NY, you need to take a refresher course in Paying Attention. The correct answer is that All Universe, HOF bound, Can't Wait Till He Gets In..... Manny Ramierez, with 29. Only 2 WS champiinships (from the Wild Card position), with a lot of post season games played. Does this get him elevated in greatness over The Mick? Ruth? Gehrig? The number says he does. Can't deny the number! And that's with only 8 of 32 MLB teams making the postseason (26.6% for those keeping track).

    More? How abiut career post season games played? Numbers 1-3: Jeter, Posada, and Bernie Williams. Think there is any connection to this stat and expanded playoffs? The more you play, the more you have an opportunity to win. (Team actual play will win the games, I'll be the first to say.) One can say that in today's game, the QB is the most highly protected species since the North American Bison. Montana? Hardly. In fact, you'll find better overall defences in the 80's.

    Postseason wins a relevent stat? I'd rather have it than NOT have it. Ah, but let's look at SB wins, which equates to overall success and achievement. Sort of like all those glitzy, gaudy, and glamorous numbers Mario tossed up there for a career. Yet, only 1 SB game, and a loss. Is his career diminished? How about Elway until his last two seasons?

    Playoff wins is a nice number, but there's more to greatness than that stat.

     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

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    Game where he throws INTs you consider good...Shows your football knowledge,,,,,I suppose your going to deny he has 5 games in a row with INTs???




    Montana threw more INTs than Brady has in the playoffs. Learn the game and then come back to talk with the big boys junior.

     

    You always were a glutton for abuse brought on by your own ignorance.


     Really how bout in SBs??? Seems to me Montana is 11TDS ZERO INT in 4 SBs

     
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    AZ.. OMG, no SB win since 2005??!!  Must make Jets fans feel much better since they haven't been to a SB since 1967.  I'll say this again, at least we have a team that gets to the SB a bit more often than most teams.  Enjoy the ride!




    The Ride is great. but the comparrisions to the 1990's Atlanta Braves (can no longer win the Big One) is the embarrassing piece. Somehow, after winning 3 of 4, with ALL of us bragging on them, going 0-2 in SB's since, and 0-every season since 2005's game, while using the old "at least we won games and GOT there!" story line is not the stuff champions are made of. It's a resignation that just getting to the game is good enough. THAT'S not good enough, for an alleged dynasty, even a short lived one. 



    What's more embarrassing is our fanbase, or some of it, most of it online to not realize that our own QB with a myriad of toys in an offensive era, just hasn't been as good as he was in the regular season.

    Tom Brady needs to be the game manager he used to be. If he is? We win the SB.

    That simple.

     



    Congrats you get it...These other clowns cant comprehend it!

     
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    Game where he throws INTs you consider good...Shows your football knowledge,,,,,I suppose your going to deny he has 5 games in a row with INTs???




    Montana threw more INTs than Brady has in the playoffs. Learn the game and then come back to talk with the big boys junior.

     

    You always were a glutton for abuse brought on by your own ignorance.


     Really how bout in SBs??? Seems to me Montana is 11TDS ZERO INT in 4 SBs




    Are you seriously trying to slam Brady for having a 9 TD and 2 INT record in SBs?

    You're making this too easy. If you're going to be a troll, at least TRY to put up a fight.

     

     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

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    In those 12 games he has not had 2 good games in a row. Can he string 3 good games in a row this year to win it all?




    Here is a news flash for you and so many others: Teams won and lost those games. THis is not tennis. Or boxing. Or wrestling (I refer to real wrestling, not the cartoon kind). Instead of asking a mind dead question how about this one:

    CAN THE PATRIOTS STRING 3 GOOD GAMES IN A ROW?

    See, it works this way: Defenses either stop the other team from scoring or the other team scores. Special teams either make good plays or bad plays. Blockers either give the QB time to throw or they do not. Receviers either get open ro not; either drop passes or catch them. RBs either run well and dont fumble or they do not run well and/or fumble. See. It takes a team. Not a QB.

    Has Brady made bad plays? Yes. Has he made good plays? Yes. Did he win the first three games? No. The team did. Did he lose the next 2 SBs? No, the team did.

    Did you see how the winning team gets rings for EVERY player and coach? Ever WONDER why that is so?

    Ask a meaningful question...

    And not the "should the Pats get Tebow" type. Really. Do you say everyhting that pops into your head?

     

     
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    What's more embarrassing is our fanbase, or some of it, most of it online to not realize that our own QB with a myriad of toys in an offensive era, just hasn't been as good as he was in the regular season.

     



    Well you had better strike that guy Montana off your list of post season wonders then junior. He has a worse INT% in the playoffs than he did during the season.

    Another day, another factual bludgeoning for junior. LMAO@U Learn the game.

     
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    Hey Babe- It was a horrible pass to Welker from Brady add in the bad pass to Branch also the safety.

    That's it in a nutshell.I don't need 14 pages of drivel to say that Brady had a BIG part in the pats loss in last years SB.He didn't loss single handidly but he was a BIG contributor.

    We all know by your epic posts that you disagree ......now go play in traffic.




    You are clueless. That is all.

     
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    Hey babe -Who threw that pass to Welker in the pats last SB that was way behind him and outside?

    Oh that's right it was Tom Brady. Even the great ones throw up a dud every now and again. Why can't you see that?

    You're infatuation with Brady being perfect is a little odd.



    Your infatuation with a team that hires coaches to trip players trying to make a play is a little odd. So is your puffery regarding a team when you, their fans and the team itself says how the entire league fears them and they are SB winners and yet they LOST 10 games, are the biggest joke in the league while leading the league in cheating and have not been to a B ,since before Larry Brown, Calvin Hill and Greg Cook were rookies (you can look those names up... they were football players... I am sure you can find a write up on what football is on wikipedia)...

     
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    My fault 24 TDs and 17 INTs - pretty pedestrian




    His playoff total is 38 and 20. We can all make things look like we want by parsing the timeframe.

    So... your great challenge to name two good playoff games in the last 12 was met and obliterated.

    Your lies about TD/INT was exposed.

    And your artificial manipulation of the timeframe has been duly noted.

     

    Take a week or two off and regroup. You've been owned.

     



    Nobody's better than professor babe at parsing.  I don't give him credit for much, but he's a master parser.




    Prove it or zip it troll.



    babe,  it's common knowledge.  It would be like asking me to prove that water is wet.




    As expected, the troll can't prove squat and is simply lying again. Everybody hates you troll.

    Now go brush up on your "harmless college pranks".



    Poor guy babe.  It's got nothing to do with "can't"but everything to do with it being unnecessary.  Thus the water wet comment.  




    You actually think you're credible because you say it's obvious but can't come up with what you claim should be very easy proof to find.

    Just another of the scores of proofs that you add nothing of worth to this board Dolts' troll.

     

     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

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    Hey babe -Who threw that pass to Welker in the pats last SB that was way behind him and outside?

     



    More brilliance from the jets' troll.

    The pass was behind him but he had to jump to get it. Makes perfect sense; to an idiot!

     

     
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    Yep, all those 3 and outs from the offense in the 2001-2004 playoffs are the reason we won.

     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

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    Montana was 4-3 in CCGs and 9-7 in divisional games. Fetus Head is 9-10 in the playoffs.

     

    Give Brady a defense like when he was 10-0 and that 6-6 might look a whole lot better.

     



    Give Manning or Montana those defenses and they would have been 10-0, too. 




    Stop lying troll.

    No lies Babe -  here you go. 

    In 2002 the Colts went one and out despite having the 7th rated scoring defense as Fetus Head threw 2 picks and zero TDs.

    Go read the play by play of the game and tell me whether or not that game was Manning's fault.  The Jets scored on their first 3 possessions.  Vanderjagt missed a FG on the colts 2nd possession.  The colts muffed a kickoff on their 3rd possession and 20 minutes into the game, the Jets were up 17 to nothing.  The Jets did not score on their next possession but scored on the following 2.  That's scoring on 5 of their first 6 possessions to a 27-0 lead without Manning turning the ball over. 

    Manning's not absolved, because he needed to find a way to get points, but that vaunted D you mentioned was awful. 

    In 2005 they went one and out despite having the 2nd rated scoring defense.

    In 2005 Mike Vanderjagt missed a field goal to tie the game and send it into overtime.  That has never happened to Brady.  Its happened to Manning twice (the other in 99). 

    In 2007 they went one and out despite having the #1 rated scoring defense as Fetus Head threw another 2 picks.

    Manning's 2 picks included a half ending hail mary and the other was a throw on the SD 5 yd line (close to scoring) that was a screen to kenton keith which hit keith directly in his hands not inside or outside but right at the numbers.  Keith stone handed the ball and it fell into Eric Weddle's hands who was on the ground.  Also in that game, Marvin Harrison fumbled in scoring range.  Further, the vaunted D could not stop Billy Cundiff and Darren Sproles from Scoring.  The d was so bad that with 2 minutes left and the colts on the chargers 7 yd line down 4, they went for it on 4th and goal from the 7.  They could have kicked a FG then tried to stop cundiff and sproles but went for it and didn't make it. 

    In 2008 they went one and out despite having the 7th rated scoring defense.

    In 2008 Manning played well.  Unfortunately, Mike Scifres put the colts consisitently in bad field position.  After his punts the colts started on their 10, 19, 3, 7, 9, and 1 yd lines.  Also, Manning had the colts with the lead with less than 2 minutes to play.  the D could not stop the Chargers from tying to send into overtime then SD got the ball to start the OT drove the ball the length of the field to score and win the game.  Manning didn't have a chance. 

    In 2009 they lost the SB despite having the 8th ranked scoring defense.

    Manning threw a pick 6 and he'll never live that down.  What people don't talk about, however, is the fumble on the kickoff to start the 2nd half and the fact that the colts vaunted defense allowed Brees to go 20-21 from the middle of the second quarter to the end of the game and allowed the Saints to score on each of their last 5 possessions. 

    That's half of Fetus Head's losses despite having a top 10 D.

    By the way, if being a statistically top 10 defense is all that matters, then how come Manning won a SB with the 23 ranked D? 

    Further, Brady had the 8th ranked D in 2010 (1 and done); 5th in 2009 (1 and done); 4th in 2007 (lost in the SB) when Brady publicly mocked Plaxico Burress for saying the Pats would score only 14 pts; 2nd in 2006 (lost in afccg). 

    Your argument doesn't really hold water.




     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

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    Talk about denial....Im a Pats fan but a realist. You Pats fans know that Brady a has 5 game PICK streak in the playoffs?




    I know since 2007 Brady has a 2/1 TD/INT ratio in playoff games other than the Raven's fiasco in 2009. You know, the one where Welker was out and the Ravens shot to a 24 zip lead in the 1st quarter and we threw the gameplan out the window?

     

     




    This is parsing (in this very thread no less).  I love you Babe.

     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

    imo his postseason records are slightly misleading stats...guess that's true for a lot of players.

    If not for Vinateri's leg, Pats might not have had two of those SBs.  If he doesn't hit those clutch FGs, does Brady deserve to be remembered for the loss(es)

    Arguably flame material, but there was that game against Pittsburgh...new rule came out of it.  We all remember that game, and no matter how you look at it fortune always favors the bold.  So if the tuck-thing hadn't gone our way, do we again hang the loss on #12?  It was a clutch drive on the road against a highly favored Pitt team in really cra**y weather.  Bold and fortunate.

    I just don't always buy into the stats.

     
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    If not for Vinateri's leg, Pats might not have had two of those SBs.  If he doesn't hit those clutch FGs, does Brady deserve to be remembered for the loss(es)

     




    Woulda shoulda coulda. And If Welker doesn't get butterfingers Brady probably has another ring. And if Samuel doesn't get butterfingers he definitely has another ring. And if Tyree misplaces his velcro helmet he probably has that ring anyway.

    And if those happened then the name Montana isn't even mentioned in the same sentence as Brady anymore.

     

     
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    So if the tuck-thing hadn't gone our way, do we again hang the loss on #12?

     




    The tuck thing didn't go our way. We got screwed out of a hands to the head penalty.

     

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