Brady #3.

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    Rusty's dug a hole so deep for himself trying to defend his cockamamie ideas, he's going to have to learn Mandarin this summer. 

     




    Facts are cockamamie ideas?  Do you really think diehard Colts or Broncos fans would rather see Manning put up big stats all year only to crap himself when the time comes? Or, would they rather he play well, have lesser stats and actually show up in the postseason?

    Peyton Manning is arguably the WORST postseason QB ever behind Elway and Marino and our very own Tom Brady is trending in that direction, hot on the heels of what GOmer has done his whole career.

    I don't want to sit there as a fan every January and see Brady get his stats to boost his resume in his mind, chase Gomer, and then know that the ego took over, to the detriment of the team winning a close game in the postseason.

    To think that could happen another 5 seasons in row is a depressing though for any real Pats fan. Brady could actually hold this whole thing hostage. Meanwhile, FLacco, Eli Manning, Russell Wilson and a whole host of inferior QBs perform better in the postseason.

    Basically, Brady needs a healthy Gronk to help Brady avoid being painfully mediocre or subpar, so how great is Brady if he has to have a HOF TE to make him be effective?

    Brady didn't need that earlier in his career because he was a better QB then. Plain and simple.




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    You're such a fraud.

    He needed gronk as all QB's need good receivers, because the rest of the bunch was a big stinking pile of horse manure.

    Yup, your intimate, gm/coach, gave him a big stinking pile to work with.

    MORE WITH LESS and when we say less, we mean really less. Like 4 rookies right out of college, LESS.

     Name another who worked with that stinking pile?  Name another who also had a STINKING PILE of a defense.

    EVERY GREAT QB HAD GREAT RECEIVERS!  Except him, that is.

    Your jealousy is clearly reached psychosis.

     
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    Re: Brady #3.

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    Rusty's dug a hole so deep for himself trying to defend his cockamamie ideas, he's going to have to learn Mandarin this summer. 



    Facts are cockamamie ideas?  Do you really think diehard Colts or Broncos fans would rather see Manning put up big stats all year only to crap himself when the time comes? Or, would they rather he play well, have lesser stats and actually show up in the postseason?

    Peyton Manning is arguably the WORST postseason QB ever behind Elway and Marino and our very own Tom Brady is trending in that direction, hot on the heels of what GOmer has done his whole career.

    I don't want to sit there as a fan every January and see Brady get his stats to boost his resume in his mind, chase Gomer, and then know that the ego took over, to the detriment of the team winning a close game in the postseason.

    To think that could happen another 5 seasons in row is a depressing though for any real Pats fan. Brady could actually hold this whole thing hostage. Meanwhile, FLacco, Eli Manning, Russell Wilson and a whole host of inferior QBs perform better in the postseason.

    Basically, Brady needs a healthy Gronk to help Brady avoid being painfully mediocre or subpar, so how great is Brady if he has to have a HOF TE to make him be effective?

    Brady didn't need that earlier in his career because he was a better QB then. Plain and simple.


    If you understand the QB position and complexity of the offense they are running now compared to then  you should know how blatantly false that last sentence is.



    It's essentially the same exact offense based on timing. It's a hybrid West Coast offense that is being run here.

    Every WR (and TE) was asked to line up and know the route from different spots on the field in 2003 just like they are in 2014.

    It's more complex than 99% of other offenses in the NFL, but you're making it seem like Brady is up against the wall to run it, more so now than before, which is a complete farce of a premise.

    You're better than that, Jiri.

    Ask yourself this:

    Are you ok with BB building 1 or 2 seed teams with these great drafts and personnel management in the cap era as other teams make blunders that force them to miss the playoffs for long periods, with Brady putting up his stats and being inconsistently subpar in the postseason for the next 5 years?

    Are the stats and bloated rhetoric about Brady's level of play more important than how he plays in the postseason to help our team win in the title game and SB?

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    Russ you need to watch the game… It is more than stats, it is about recognition and putting the offensive personnel on the field in the best position to succeed. Brady is the best in the game at identifying and exposing the weakness in any defense. His pre reads at the line is what makes him so good. When you are in the stadium and look at the how the D is aligned and how he shifts into different sets and changes in and out of plays it is like watching an artist. One of his biggest strengths is identifying the need to change out of passing plays into running plays.

     
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    Re: Brady #3.

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    Rusty's dug a hole so deep for himself trying to defend his cockamamie ideas, he's going to have to learn Mandarin this summer. 



    Facts are cockamamie ideas?  Do you really think diehard Colts or Broncos fans would rather see Manning put up big stats all year only to crap himself when the time comes? Or, would they rather he play well, have lesser stats and actually show up in the postseason?

    Peyton Manning is arguably the WORST postseason QB ever behind Elway and Marino and our very own Tom Brady is trending in that direction, hot on the heels of what GOmer has done his whole career.

    I don't want to sit there as a fan every January and see Brady get his stats to boost his resume in his mind, chase Gomer, and then know that the ego took over, to the detriment of the team winning a close game in the postseason.

    To think that could happen another 5 seasons in row is a depressing though for any real Pats fan. Brady could actually hold this whole thing hostage. Meanwhile, FLacco, Eli Manning, Russell Wilson and a whole host of inferior QBs perform better in the postseason.

    Basically, Brady needs a healthy Gronk to help Brady avoid being painfully mediocre or subpar, so how great is Brady if he has to have a HOF TE to make him be effective?

    Brady didn't need that earlier in his career because he was a better QB then. Plain and simple.


    If you understand the QB position and complexity of the offense they are running now compared to then  you should know how blatantly false that last sentence is.




    It's essentially the same exact offense based on timing. It's a hybrid West Coast offense that is being run here.

    Every WR (and TE) was asked to line up and know the route from different spots on the field in 2003 just like they are in 2014.

    It's more complex than 99% of other offenses in the NFL, but you're making it seem like Brady is up against the wall to run it, more so now than before, which is a complete farce of a premise.

    You're better than that, Jiri.

    Ask yourself this:

    Are you ok with BB building 1 or 2 seed teams with these great drafts and personnel management in the cap era as other teams make blunders that force them to miss the playoffs for long periods, with Brady putting up his stats and being inconsistently subpar in the postseason for the next 5 years?

    Are the stats and bloated rhetoric about Brady's level of play more important than how he plays in the postseason to help our team win in the title game and SB?

     




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    His great drafts and personnel management have yielded the worst defenses in NFL history.  THAT'S A FACT.

    Sorry, there are no great teams with diarrhea defenses, no matter how good their O , is..

    How is it TB continues to run great offenses despite an enormous lack of talent (comparatively speaking) and bb can't put out a good D with the crap he gave his self to work with?

    TB, great with crap

    BB, sucky with crap.

    That's a fact!

     
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    Re: Brady #3.

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    Rusty's dug a hole so deep for himself trying to defend his cockamamie ideas, he's going to have to learn Mandarin this summer. 



    Facts are cockamamie ideas?  Do you really think diehard Colts or Broncos fans would rather see Manning put up big stats all year only to crap himself when the time comes? Or, would they rather he play well, have lesser stats and actually show up in the postseason?

    Peyton Manning is arguably the WORST postseason QB ever behind Elway and Marino and our very own Tom Brady is trending in that direction, hot on the heels of what GOmer has done his whole career.

    I don't want to sit there as a fan every January and see Brady get his stats to boost his resume in his mind, chase Gomer, and then know that the ego took over, to the detriment of the team winning a close game in the postseason.

    To think that could happen another 5 seasons in row is a depressing though for any real Pats fan. Brady could actually hold this whole thing hostage. Meanwhile, FLacco, Eli Manning, Russell Wilson and a whole host of inferior QBs perform better in the postseason.

    Basically, Brady needs a healthy Gronk to help Brady avoid being painfully mediocre or subpar, so how great is Brady if he has to have a HOF TE to make him be effective?

    Brady didn't need that earlier in his career because he was a better QB then. Plain and simple.


    If you understand the QB position and complexity of the offense they are running now compared to then  you should know how blatantly false that last sentence is.



    It's essentially the same exact offense based on timing. It's a hybrid West Coast offense that is being run here.

    Every WR (and TE) was asked to line up and know the route from different spots on the field in 2003 just like they are in 2014.

    It's more complex than 99% of other offenses in the NFL, but you're making it seem like Brady is up against the wall to run it, more so now than before, which is a complete farce of a premise.

    You're better than that, Jiri.

    Ask yourself this:

    Are you ok with BB building 1 or 2 seed teams with these great drafts and personnel management in the cap era as other teams make blunders that force them to miss the playoffs for long periods, with Brady putting up his stats and being inconsistently subpar in the postseason for the next 5 years?

    Are the stats and bloated rhetoric about Brady's level of play more important than how he plays in the postseason to help our team win in the title game and SB?

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    Russ you need to watch the game… It is more than stats, it is about recognition and putting the offensive personnel on the field in the best position to succeed. Brady is the best in the game at identifying and exposing the weakness in any defense. His pre reads at the line is what makes him so good. When you are in the stadium and look at the how the D is aligned and how he shifts into different sets and changes in and out of plays it is like watching an artist. One of his biggest strengths is identifying the need to change out of passing plays into running plays.




    You don;t get it.  He's being baited by the other team.  Defenses know that if they play man, hold and get away with PI, etc, knowing the refs are told to not call a fair game, pressure Brady down the middle, etc, they can use that knowledge of Brady's passing addiction against him.

    We've been over this a billion times on here.  Brady was a better QB earlier in his career when he had less autonomy and wasn't over-thinking exactly what you just described.

    At some point, the fundamentals of this game will never change and it becomes a physical battle of wills, not a finesse mind game where you think you're smarter than the humans on the defensive side of the ball.

    At first, I thought it was just a concidence or one-off thing, but the jig has been up for a while.  Defenses know Brady wants to throw a lot to make it about him in the spotlight, so when the team wins, he gets most of the recognition, so they use that against him, usually with a loss for the Pats.

    Brady has got to prove that he's smarter than them or more disciplined, not taking the bait. He just can't help himself which is why he ends up with 40+ passes and only 16 or 17 points when the game ends.


    I get it just fine… invest some money and go back and watch the coaches tapes the NFL network offers… you will understand then.

     
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    You don;t get it.  He's being baited by the other team.  Defenses know that if they play man, hold and get away with PI, etc, knowing the refs are told to not call a fair game, pressure Brady down the middle, etc, they can use that knowledge of Brady's passing addiction against him.

    We've been over this a billion times on here.  Brady was a better QB earlier in his career when he had less autonomy and wasn't over-thinking exactly what you just described.

    At some point, the fundamentals of this game will never change and it becomes a physical battle of wills, not a finesse mind game where you think you're smarter than the humans on the defensive side of the ball.

    At first, I thought it was just a concidence or one-off thing, but the jig has been up for a while.  Defenses know Brady wants to throw a lot to make it about him in the spotlight, so when the team wins, he gets most of the recognition, so they use that against him, usually with a loss for the Pats.

    Brady has got to prove that he's smarter than them or more disciplined, not taking the bait. He just can't help himself which is why he ends up with 40+ passes and only 16 or 17 points when the game ends.

     



    Belichick's still not taking your calls, huh?   

    Have you tried any of the phone spoofing software that allow you to pretend you are someone important?

     

     
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    Re: Brady #3.

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    Rusty's dug a hole so deep for himself trying to defend his cockamamie ideas, he's going to have to learn Mandarin this summer. 



    Facts are cockamamie ideas?  Do you really think diehard Colts or Broncos fans would rather see Manning put up big stats all year only to crap himself when the time comes? Or, would they rather he play well, have lesser stats and actually show up in the postseason?

    Peyton Manning is arguably the WORST postseason QB ever behind Elway and Marino and our very own Tom Brady is trending in that direction, hot on the heels of what GOmer has done his whole career.

    I don't want to sit there as a fan every January and see Brady get his stats to boost his resume in his mind, chase Gomer, and then know that the ego took over, to the detriment of the team winning a close game in the postseason.

    To think that could happen another 5 seasons in row is a depressing though for any real Pats fan. Brady could actually hold this whole thing hostage. Meanwhile, FLacco, Eli Manning, Russell Wilson and a whole host of inferior QBs perform better in the postseason.

    Basically, Brady needs a healthy Gronk to help Brady avoid being painfully mediocre or subpar, so how great is Brady if he has to have a HOF TE to make him be effective?

    Brady didn't need that earlier in his career because he was a better QB then. Plain and simple.


    If you understand the QB position and complexity of the offense they are running now compared to then  you should know how blatantly false that last sentence is.



    It's essentially the same exact offense based on timing. It's a hybrid West Coast offense that is being run here.

    Every WR (and TE) was asked to line up and know the route from different spots on the field in 2003 just like they are in 2014.

    It's more complex than 99% of other offenses in the NFL, but you're making it seem like Brady is up against the wall to run it, more so now than before, which is a complete farce of a premise.

    You're better than that, Jiri.

    Ask yourself this:

    Are you ok with BB building 1 or 2 seed teams with these great drafts and personnel management in the cap era as other teams make blunders that force them to miss the playoffs for long periods, with Brady putting up his stats and being inconsistently subpar in the postseason for the next 5 years?

    Are the stats and bloated rhetoric about Brady's level of play more important than how he plays in the postseason to help our team win in the title game and SB?

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    Russ you need to watch the game… It is more than stats, it is about recognition and putting the offensive personnel on the field in the best position to succeed. Brady is the best in the game at identifying and exposing the weakness in any defense. His pre reads at the line is what makes him so good. When you are in the stadium and look at the how the D is aligned and how he shifts into different sets and changes in and out of plays it is like watching an artist. One of his biggest strengths is identifying the need to change out of passing plays into running plays.




    You don;t get it.  He's being baited by the other team.  Defenses know that if they play man, hold and get away with PI, etc, knowing the refs are told to not call a fair game, pressure Brady down the middle, etc, they can use that knowledge of Brady's passing addiction against him.

    We've been over this a billion times on here.  Brady was a better QB earlier in his career when he had less autonomy and wasn't over-thinking exactly what you just described.

    At some point, the fundamentals of this game will never change and it becomes a physical battle of wills, not a finesse mind game where you think you're smarter than the humans on the defensive side of the ball.

    At first, I thought it was just a concidence or one-off thing, but the jig has been up for a while.  Defenses know Brady wants to throw a lot to make it about him in the spotlight, so when the team wins, he gets most of the recognition, so they use that against him, usually with a loss for the Pats.

    Brady has got to prove that he's smarter than them or more disciplined, not taking the bait. He just can't help himself which is why he ends up with 40+ passes and only 16 or 17 points when the game ends.

     




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    Absolutely the biggest crock, ever spewed from any orifice.

     
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    #3??? I know I would be considered bias but TB last year over the course of the last 8 games played some of the best football of his career. I don't care what his ranking is I am just happy the guy plays QB for the NE Patriots. When he is gone it will be then that this fan base will understand just how good this guy is.




     





    He also played some of his worst, especially at the beginning of the season, blaming others. He botched two snaps for sneaks as well, trying to blame Wendell after each game because he is scared and pulled back too fast.

     

     

     

     

     

    Each game could have been lost over something that is such a formality for any NFL QB.  

     

     

     

    Next, his crybaby behavior during games showed very poor leadership and was discussed over the airwaves for weeks on end.  It wasn't a mirage. That actually happened.

     

     

     

    Lastly, his terrible throws to wide open receivers would actually haunt the team at different times during the year, including the title game.

     

     

     

    He's actually wildly inconsistent from week to week, which has lost this team games.  If not for a good group of surrounding young talent in here since 2010 making plays and covering for his flawed play at times, who knows where this franchise would be at this point.

     

     

     

    The D singlehandedly won the first 6 games of the year for crying out loud with Talib the best player of any defender in football.

     

     

     

    These stupid lists are based on reputation anyway.  I'd rather be Brady be #1 or #2 in January instead of #3 on some list from Sept-December.

     

     

     

     



    Russ I've been watching NFL QB's since the mid 70's and TB is one of the top 3 I have ever seen if not the best. Everyone reveres Joe Montana as #1 and rightfully so but go back and look at how many 1 and outs the great Joe Montana had. There are no perfect QB's even the all time greats have flaws. You could give me your top QB list of all time and I could do the same thing you are doing here to Brady.  If you understand the game you should understand how exceptional the current QB for the Pats really is. When the final TB chapter is written it will show him to be perhaps the greatest QB to ever lace them up in the history of the league.

     

     

     

     



    I agree, but the difference is, this has been going on with Brady for so many years. Montana bounced back in 1988 after Walsh added some nice youth, mainly starting in 1986. Meanwhile, Brady looks distant, removed and uninterested on those Sundays in January.

     

     

     

    It's almost as if he feels these lists or the stat compilations are more important. As if diehard fans care more about where he falls on some stupid list as a likeable opponent in the NFL?  Who cares?

     

     

     

    Why do I care more about seeing this team win a title than Brady?  I just don't buy his line anymore. He changed when Giselle entered the scene and he changed for the worse.

     

     

     

    Also, if you notice, he is far more demonstrative to the players on the sideline, which has been the norm since he returned in 2009 and that is because he has a ring and no one else does. It's almost like he's talking down to the other players and he gets off on it. I never ONCE saw him unload on Troy Brown, Patten, Branch or Givens back in the day. Not once. He was the quiet, calm and cool field general who stayed focused and didn't care about stats.  He'd run off the field knowing he did things better than Gomer, but had the lesser stats.

     

    Now, he cares more about the stats and lists than he does doing the small things right go get the win.  Kyle Williams sits there and says "Brady does whatever is needed to win"....Nope. No, he doesn't. I've seen Brady baited numerous times by defenses who know that Brady gets addicted to throwing, Buffalo in 2011 being a perfect example. I saw it. That didn't happen. The worst run D in the AFC and Brady wants to throw 50 times when he has a 21-3 lead and looking to score, heading into halftime.  The same thing happened in the 2006 title game. Corey Dillon is running amuck and we throw more. It's just mindboggling.

     

     

     

    I was appalled last year when he said "we need to work on the snap", implying Wendell somehow had something to do with Brady pulling back to soon.  How about some accountability, Tom?

     

     

     

    He acts like he never makes a mistake, too.  Has ever walked over to a teammate that has no ring and said "that was my bad"?  I wouldn't bet on it.  I've seen him last out at coaches, too, like O'Brien in DC after that god awful INT.  He was at fault there and he tried to throw Underwood under the bus.  I saw it. It happened.

     

     

     

    Brady is ruining his legacy year after year with a trending pattern of poor play.  Every excuse in the book, to the moon and back has been used, and he and his minions are now 100% out of them.  Look at Babe's comments about how BB "saddled" Brady with inferior talent. Saddled?

     

    Is the talent inferior for Brady or is it just younger and new, so the unknown to Babe, who needs his blankie at night to sleep well in his Brady underoos, such an unknown he can come on here an insult these good, young players BB has surrounded Brady with? It used to be "Branch can't get separation" and "Brady needs a deep threat", so BB gets it and Brady still can't execute.  SOmehow, there is always a Brady built-in excuse waiting in the wings.

     

     

     

    If you want inferior, go look at about 70% of other franchises with bonehead morons who probably shouldn't have a college degree, but they get on ESPN's highlights one week for Babe to pretend he knows how great some other team's receivers are, when he doesn't.  Most of the WRs in this league would never work here because of how much Brady demands, but the irony is, Brady needs to look in that mirror and demand more of himself in the postseason if this team can even dream of a chance at a SB ring again.

     

     

     

    This D will be loaded this year and BB has basically turned the keys over to Brady and pushing him out of the house to go pick up his date in the sports car.  Brady has nowhere to go, so this is it. No more AFC title games ending with Brady trotting off the field, faking genuine disappointment in front of the cameras, only to meet up with GIselle to fly to Brazil hours later.

     

     

     

    I am tired of it as a fan. 

     

     

     

    People say it's going to be a sad day when Brady retires. Well, it won't be if he keeps this up. Montana answered the bell after 3 straight one and dones as Walsh rebuilt on the fly from '86-'88. Brady? He looks the same as he did when he threw that pick 6 in Denver in the divisional rd in 2005 when he literally threw the game away.

     

     

     

    Nothing has really changed with him. Only he can make that change. Him. No one else.

     

     

     

    Top 5 QBs all time:

     

     

     

    Montana

     

     

     

    Otto Graham

     

     

     

    Brady

     

     

     

    Unitas

     

     

     

    Manning

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Top 5 I've Seen:

     

     

     

    Montana

     

     

     

    Brady

     

     

     

    Manning

     

     

     

    Marino

     

     

     

    Steve Young




    as much as I didn't bother with ur thesis above and keeping in mind how inane ur Brady nonsense is I must say both ur QB lists are very good and argument could be made u nailed it pretty good...now if u only took the BB is God bumper stickers off ur Pinto u might actually be onto something...as for music ur probably hopeless however

     
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    Rusty's dug a hole so deep for himself trying to defend his cockamamie ideas, he's going to have to learn Mandarin this summer. 

     




    Facts are cockamamie ideas?  Do you really think diehard Colts or Broncos fans would rather see Manning put up big stats all year only to crap himself when the time comes? Or, would they rather he play well, have lesser stats and actually show up in the postseason?

    Peyton Manning is arguably the WORST postseason QB ever behind Elway and Marino and our very own Tom Brady is trending in that direction, hot on the heels of what GOmer has done his whole career.

    I don't want to sit there as a fan every January and see Brady get his stats to boost his resume in his mind, chase Gomer, and then know that the ego took over, to the detriment of the team winning a close game in the postseason.

    To think that could happen another 5 seasons in row is a depressing though for any real Pats fan. Brady could actually hold this whole thing hostage. Meanwhile, FLacco, Eli Manning, Russell Wilson and a whole host of inferior QBs perform better in the postseason.

    Basically, Brady needs a healthy Gronk to help Brady avoid being painfully mediocre or subpar, so how great is Brady if he has to have a HOF TE to make him be effective?

    Brady didn't need that earlier in his career because he was a better QB then. Plain and simple.




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    You're such a fraud.

    He needed gronk as all QB's need good receivers, because the rest of the bunch was a big stinking pile of horse manure.

    Yup, your intimate, gm/coach, gave him a big stinking pile to work with.

    MORE WITH LESS and when we say less, we mean really less. Like 4 rookies right out of college, LESS.

     Name another who worked with that stinking pile?  Name another who also had a STINKING PILE of a defense.

    EVERY GREAT QB HAD GREAT RECEIVERS!  Except him, that is.

    Your jealousy is clearly reached psychosis.




    Me being frustrated and just speecheless with Brady's poor postseasons since 2005 is a "psychosis"? LOL

    I would say you not admitting that as fact even though it's actually happened for so long is the psychosis, dummy.

    Moss, Welker, Branch returning, the two best TEs in the game, 1200 yard rushers, etc, etc, etc, and right on down the line.  Nothing has ever been good enough for Brady in January for a long time, but it was just ducky all year long as your fantasy football numbers got you wins, dork.

    LOL

    Nothing seems to be good enough for Brady, just like the spoiled rich kid down the street who never appreciated his birthday presents.

    You want psychosis? Look in the mirror, boy.  You're a grown man with such lustful sentiments towards Brady, you have never once admitted how subpar his play has been in the postseason all this time. SICK




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    Your frustration is in your sick little mind.  There is no disputing that.

     
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    Rusty's dug a hole so deep for himself trying to defend his cockamamie ideas, he's going to have to learn Mandarin this summer. 



    Facts are cockamamie ideas?  Do you really think diehard Colts or Broncos fans would rather see Manning put up big stats all year only to crap himself when the time comes? Or, would they rather he play well, have lesser stats and actually show up in the postseason?

    Peyton Manning is arguably the WORST postseason QB ever behind Elway and Marino and our very own Tom Brady is trending in that direction, hot on the heels of what GOmer has done his whole career.

    I don't want to sit there as a fan every January and see Brady get his stats to boost his resume in his mind, chase Gomer, and then know that the ego took over, to the detriment of the team winning a close game in the postseason.

    To think that could happen another 5 seasons in row is a depressing though for any real Pats fan. Brady could actually hold this whole thing hostage. Meanwhile, FLacco, Eli Manning, Russell Wilson and a whole host of inferior QBs perform better in the postseason.

    Basically, Brady needs a healthy Gronk to help Brady avoid being painfully mediocre or subpar, so how great is Brady if he has to have a HOF TE to make him be effective?

    Brady didn't need that earlier in his career because he was a better QB then. Plain and simple.


    If you understand the QB position and complexity of the offense they are running now compared to then  you should know how blatantly false that last sentence is.



    It's essentially the same exact offense based on timing. It's a hybrid West Coast offense that is being run here.

    Every WR (and TE) was asked to line up and know the route from different spots on the field in 2003 just like they are in 2014.

    It's more complex than 99% of other offenses in the NFL, but you're making it seem like Brady is up against the wall to run it, more so now than before, which is a complete farce of a premise.

    You're better than that, Jiri.

    Ask yourself this:

    Are you ok with BB building 1 or 2 seed teams with these great drafts and personnel management in the cap era as other teams make blunders that force them to miss the playoffs for long periods, with Brady putting up his stats and being inconsistently subpar in the postseason for the next 5 years?

    Are the stats and bloated rhetoric about Brady's level of play more important than how he plays in the postseason to help our team win in the title game and SB?

    [/QUOTE
    Russ you need to watch the game… It is more than stats, it is about recognition and putting the offensive personnel on the field in the best position to succeed. Brady is the best in the game at identifying and exposing the weakness in any defense. His pre reads at the line is what makes him so good. When you are in the stadium and look at the how the D is aligned and how he shifts into different sets and changes in and out of plays it is like watching an artist. One of his biggest strengths is identifying the need to change out of passing plays into running plays.




    You don;t get it.  He's being baited by the other team.  Defenses know that if they play man, hold and get away with PI, etc, knowing the refs are told to not call a fair game, pressure Brady down the middle, etc, they can use that knowledge of Brady's passing addiction against him.

    We've been over this a billion times on here.  Brady was a better QB earlier in his career when he had less autonomy and wasn't over-thinking exactly what you just described.

    At some point, the fundamentals of this game will never change and it becomes a physical battle of wills, not a finesse mind game where you think you're smarter than the humans on the defensive side of the ball.

    At first, I thought it was just a concidence or one-off thing, but the jig has been up for a while.  Defenses know Brady wants to throw a lot to make it about him in the spotlight, so when the team wins, he gets most of the recognition, so they use that against him, usually with a loss for the Pats.

    Brady has got to prove that he's smarter than them or more disciplined, not taking the bait. He just can't help himself which is why he ends up with 40+ passes and only 16 or 17 points when the game ends.


    I get it just fine… invest some money and go back and watch the coaches tapes the NFL network offers… you will understand then.



    Anyone needing "coaching tape" to watch Brady miss wide open WRs or throw 40+ times with a lead, only to lose, is WASTING their money.

    And, anyone who is a fan of this team not admitting Brady is the main figure who needs to improve in January, is also wasting their time.


    I'm done banging my head against the wall… I know how good Brady is and how fortunate the Pats fan base is to have him as the QB of this franchise. You have your opinion I have mine… I knew I shouldn't have engaged you on this topic. I swear it's like the movie Ground Hog Day most of the time in this forum.

     
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    Re: Brady #3.

    In response to DougIrwin's comment:

    In response to pezz4pats' comment:

    In response to DougIrwin's comment:

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    Rusty's dug a hole so deep for himself trying to defend his cockamamie ideas, he's going to have to learn Mandarin this summer. 

     




    Facts are cockamamie ideas?  Do you really think diehard Colts or Broncos fans would rather see Manning put up big stats all year only to crap himself when the time comes? Or, would they rather he play well, have lesser stats and actually show up in the postseason?

    Peyton Manning is arguably the WORST postseason QB ever behind Elway and Marino and our very own Tom Brady is trending in that direction, hot on the heels of what GOmer has done his whole career.

    I don't want to sit there as a fan every January and see Brady get his stats to boost his resume in his mind, chase Gomer, and then know that the ego took over, to the detriment of the team winning a close game in the postseason.

    To think that could happen another 5 seasons in row is a depressing though for any real Pats fan. Brady could actually hold this whole thing hostage. Meanwhile, FLacco, Eli Manning, Russell Wilson and a whole host of inferior QBs perform better in the postseason.

    Basically, Brady needs a healthy Gronk to help Brady avoid being painfully mediocre or subpar, so how great is Brady if he has to have a HOF TE to make him be effective?

    Brady didn't need that earlier in his career because he was a better QB then. Plain and simple.




    [object HTMLDivElement]

    You're such a fraud.

    He needed gronk as all QB's need good receivers, because the rest of the bunch was a big stinking pile of horse manure.

    Yup, your intimate, gm/coach, gave him a big stinking pile to work with.

    MORE WITH LESS and when we say less, we mean really less. Like 4 rookies right out of college, LESS.

     Name another who worked with that stinking pile?  Name another who also had a STINKING PILE of a defense.

    EVERY GREAT QB HAD GREAT RECEIVERS!  Except him, that is.

    Your jealousy is clearly reached psychosis.




    Me being frustrated and just speecheless with Brady's poor postseasons since 2005 is a "psychosis"? LOL

    I would say you not admitting that as fact even though it's actually happened for so long is the psychosis, dummy.

    Moss, Welker, Branch returning, the two best TEs in the game, 1200 yard rushers, etc, etc, etc, and right on down the line.  Nothing has ever been good enough for Brady in January for a long time, but it was just ducky all year long as your fantasy football numbers got you wins, dork.

    LOL

    Nothing seems to be good enough for Brady, just like the spoiled rich kid down the street who never appreciated his birthday presents.

    You want psychosis? Look in the mirror, boy.  You're a grown man with such lustful sentiments towards Brady, you have never once admitted how subpar his play has been in the postseason all this time. SICK




    [object HTMLDivElement]

    Your frustration is in your sick little mind.  There is no disputing that.




    Brady is wildly inconsistent in the postseason overall since 2005 and yes, I am frustrated with that FACT.

    Repeat after me:

    You can do it!




    [object HTMLDivElement]

    Nope, cuz it would be a lie and I'd rather the liars like yourself, do that.

    Brady has undoubtedly, been one of, if not the most consistent, QB's ever.

    Now, what HAS been inconsistent is the garbage that bb has fielded since 2005.

    So much so, that he's had to go out and purchased a  duo of starting CB's, due to his complete failure in trying to draft any for the past 8 years. FACT!

    TB='s more with less

    BB ='s less with less

     
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    Re: Brady #3.

    In response to ghostofjri37's comment:

    In response to DougIrwin's comment:

    In response to prolate0spheroid's comment:

    Rusty's dug a hole so deep for himself trying to defend his cockamamie ideas, he's going to have to learn Mandarin this summer. 



    Facts are cockamamie ideas?  Do you really think diehard Colts or Broncos fans would rather see Manning put up big stats all year only to crap himself when the time comes? Or, would they rather he play well, have lesser stats and actually show up in the postseason?

    Peyton Manning is arguably the WORST postseason QB ever behind Elway and Marino and our very own Tom Brady is trending in that direction, hot on the heels of what GOmer has done his whole career.

    I don't want to sit there as a fan every January and see Brady get his stats to boost his resume in his mind, chase Gomer, and then know that the ego took over, to the detriment of the team winning a close game in the postseason.

    To think that could happen another 5 seasons in row is a depressing though for any real Pats fan. Brady could actually hold this whole thing hostage. Meanwhile, FLacco, Eli Manning, Russell Wilson and a whole host of inferior QBs perform better in the postseason.

    Basically, Brady needs a healthy Gronk to help Brady avoid being painfully mediocre or subpar, so how great is Brady if he has to have a HOF TE to make him be effective?

    Brady didn't need that earlier in his career because he was a better QB then. Plain and simple.


    If you understand the QB position and complexity of the offense they are running now compared to then  you should know how blatantly false that last sentence is.




    Every time Rusty writes a post on this topic he betrays how little he actually knows about football.  It's funny really.  He'd be better off writing in Mandarin, because most of us wouldn't be able to tell what a fool he's making of himself. 

     
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    Re: Brady #3.

    In response to CatfishHunter's comment:

    In response to DougIrwin's comment:

    Peyton Manning is arguably the WORST postseason QB ever behind Elway and Marino and our very own Tom Brady is trending in that direction, hot on the heels of what GOmer has done his whole career.




    Manning had 3 TDs and 7 INTs in his only SB winning post-season.  So, if you are correct about the trend then horrendous QB play could be the recipe for the next Lombardi trophy.




    In fact, the main theme on BDC today seems to be that the key to winning Super Bowls is horrendous QB play and not having any good WRs.

     

     
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    Re: Brady #3.

    In response to ghostofjri37's comment:

    In response to DougIrwin's comment:

    In response to ghostofjri37's comment:

    In response to DougIrwin's comment:

    In response to prolate0spheroid's comment:

    Rusty's dug a hole so deep for himself trying to defend his cockamamie ideas, he's going to have to learn Mandarin this summer. 



    Facts are cockamamie ideas?  Do you really think diehard Colts or Broncos fans would rather see Manning put up big stats all year only to crap himself when the time comes? Or, would they rather he play well, have lesser stats and actually show up in the postseason?

    Peyton Manning is arguably the WORST postseason QB ever behind Elway and Marino and our very own Tom Brady is trending in that direction, hot on the heels of what GOmer has done his whole career.

    I don't want to sit there as a fan every January and see Brady get his stats to boost his resume in his mind, chase Gomer, and then know that the ego took over, to the detriment of the team winning a close game in the postseason.

    To think that could happen another 5 seasons in row is a depressing though for any real Pats fan. Brady could actually hold this whole thing hostage. Meanwhile, FLacco, Eli Manning, Russell Wilson and a whole host of inferior QBs perform better in the postseason.

    Basically, Brady needs a healthy Gronk to help Brady avoid being painfully mediocre or subpar, so how great is Brady if he has to have a HOF TE to make him be effective?

    Brady didn't need that earlier in his career because he was a better QB then. Plain and simple.


    If you understand the QB position and complexity of the offense they are running now compared to then  you should know how blatantly false that last sentence is.



    It's essentially the same exact offense based on timing. It's a hybrid West Coast offense that is being run here.

    Every WR (and TE) was asked to line up and know the route from different spots on the field in 2003 just like they are in 2014.

    It's more complex than 99% of other offenses in the NFL, but you're making it seem like Brady is up against the wall to run it, more so now than before, which is a complete farce of a premise.

    You're better than that, Jiri.

    Ask yourself this:

    Are you ok with BB building 1 or 2 seed teams with these great drafts and personnel management in the cap era as other teams make blunders that force them to miss the playoffs for long periods, with Brady putting up his stats and being inconsistently subpar in the postseason for the next 5 years?

    Are the stats and bloated rhetoric about Brady's level of play more important than how he plays in the postseason to help our team win in the title game and SB?

    [/QUOTE
    Russ you need to watch the game… It is more than stats, it is about recognition and putting the offensive personnel on the field in the best position to succeed. Brady is the best in the game at identifying and exposing the weakness in any defense. His pre reads at the line is what makes him so good. When you are in the stadium and look at the how the D is aligned and how he shifts into different sets and changes in and out of plays it is like watching an artist. One of his biggest strengths is identifying the need to change out of passing plays into running plays.

    Rusty's never seen Brady play l i v e. 



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    Re: Brady #3.

    In response to prolate0spheroid's comment:

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    In response to DougIrwin's comment:

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    In response to DougIrwin's comment:

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    Rusty's dug a hole so deep for himself trying to defend his cockamamie ideas, he's going to have to learn Mandarin this summer. 



    Facts are cockamamie ideas?  Do you really think diehard Colts or Broncos fans would rather see Manning put up big stats all year only to crap himself when the time comes? Or, would they rather he play well, have lesser stats and actually show up in the postseason?

    Peyton Manning is arguably the WORST postseason QB ever behind Elway and Marino and our very own Tom Brady is trending in that direction, hot on the heels of what GOmer has done his whole career.

    I don't want to sit there as a fan every January and see Brady get his stats to boost his resume in his mind, chase Gomer, and then know that the ego took over, to the detriment of the team winning a close game in the postseason.

    To think that could happen another 5 seasons in row is a depressing though for any real Pats fan. Brady could actually hold this whole thing hostage. Meanwhile, FLacco, Eli Manning, Russell Wilson and a whole host of inferior QBs perform better in the postseason.

    Basically, Brady needs a healthy Gronk to help Brady avoid being painfully mediocre or subpar, so how great is Brady if he has to have a HOF TE to make him be effective?

    Brady didn't need that earlier in his career because he was a better QB then. Plain and simple.


    If you understand the QB position and complexity of the offense they are running now compared to then  you should know how blatantly false that last sentence is.



    It's essentially the same exact offense based on timing. It's a hybrid West Coast offense that is being run here.

    Every WR (and TE) was asked to line up and know the route from different spots on the field in 2003 just like they are in 2014.

    It's more complex than 99% of other offenses in the NFL, but you're making it seem like Brady is up against the wall to run it, more so now than before, which is a complete farce of a premise.

    You're better than that, Jiri.

    Ask yourself this:

    Are you ok with BB building 1 or 2 seed teams with these great drafts and personnel management in the cap era as other teams make blunders that force them to miss the playoffs for long periods, with Brady putting up his stats and being inconsistently subpar in the postseason for the next 5 years?

    Are the stats and bloated rhetoric about Brady's level of play more important than how he plays in the postseason to help our team win in the title game and SB?

    [/QUOTE
    Russ you need to watch the game… It is more than stats, it is about recognition and putting the offensive personnel on the field in the best position to succeed. Brady is the best in the game at identifying and exposing the weakness in any defense. His pre reads at the line is what makes him so good. When you are in the stadium and look at the how the D is aligned and how he shifts into different sets and changes in and out of plays it is like watching an artist. One of his biggest strengths is identifying the need to change out of passing plays into running plays.

    Rusty's never seen Brady play l i v e. 



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    Interesting observation. You are most likely correct. Rusty has never seen Brady play in person. Maybe his uncles went to a game and filled him in?

    Bwaha....Aha....bwahahahahahaha...

     
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    Re: Brady #3.

    In response to DougIrwin's comment:

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    Rusty's dug a hole so deep for himself trying to defend his cockamamie ideas, he's going to have to learn Mandarin this summer. 

     




    Facts are cockamamie ideas?  Do you really think diehard Colts or Broncos fans would rather see Manning put up big stats all year only to crap himself when the time comes? Or, would they rather he play well, have lesser stats and actually show up in the postseason?

    Peyton Manning is arguably the WORST postseason QB ever behind Elway and Marino and our very own Tom Brady is trending in that direction, hot on the heels of what GOmer has done his whole career.

    I don't want to sit there as a fan every January and see Brady get his stats to boost his resume in his mind, chase Gomer, and then know that the ego took over, to the detriment of the team winning a close game in the postseason.

    To think that could happen another 5 seasons in row is a depressing though for any real Pats fan. Brady could actually hold this whole thing hostage. Meanwhile, FLacco, Eli Manning, Russell Wilson and a whole host of inferior QBs perform better in the postseason.

    Basically, Brady needs a healthy Gronk to help Brady avoid being painfully mediocre or subpar, so how great is Brady if he has to have a HOF TE to make him be effective?

    Brady didn't need that earlier in his career because he was a better QB then. Plain and simple.




    [object HTMLDivElement]

    You're such a fraud.

    He needed gronk as all QB's need good receivers, because the rest of the bunch was a big stinking pile of horse manure.

    Yup, your intimate, gm/coach, gave him a big stinking pile to work with.

    MORE WITH LESS and when we say less, we mean really less. Like 4 rookies right out of college, LESS.

     Name another who worked with that stinking pile?  Name another who also had a STINKING PILE of a defense.

    EVERY GREAT QB HAD GREAT RECEIVERS!  Except him, that is.

    Your jealousy is clearly reached psychosis.




    Me being frustrated and just speecheless with Brady's poor postseasons since 2005 is a "psychosis"? LOL

    I would say you not admitting that as fact even though it's actually happened for so long is the psychosis, dummy.

    Moss, Welker, Branch returning, the two best TEs in the game, 1200 yard rushers, etc, etc, etc, and right on down the line.  Nothing has ever been good enough for Brady in January for a long time, but it was just ducky all year long as your fantasy football numbers got you wins, dork.

    LOL

    Nothing seems to be good enough for Brady, just like the spoiled rich kid down the street who never appreciated his birthday presents.

    You want psychosis? Look in the mirror, boy.  You're a grown man with such lustful sentiments towards Brady, you have never once admitted how subpar his play has been in the postseason all this time. SICK




    [object HTMLDivElement]

    Your frustration is in your sick little mind.  There is no disputing that.




    Brady is wildly inconsistent in the postseason overall since 2005 and yes, I am frustrated with that FACT.

    Repeat after me:

    You can do it!




    [object HTMLDivElement]

    Nope, cuz it would be a lie and I'd rather the liars like yourself, do that.

    Brady has undoubtedly, been one of, if not the most consistent, QB's ever.

    Now, what HAS been inconsistent is the garbage that bb has fielded since 2005.

    So much so, that he's had to go out and purchased a  duo of starting CB's, due to his complete failure in trying to draft any for the past 8 years. FACT!

    TB='s more with less

    BB ='s less with less




    He's also purchased WR after WR and after TE to spoil Brady beyond belief, only to utter failure in the brightest of lights.

    I will never forget that Jets playoff game where he looked like a deer in the headlights the entire game, losing field position on every drive, throwing INTs, etc.

    BB is now going for bear by bringing in TWO CBs, doubling down yet again, but will Brady destroy that too?




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    Yes he had to go out and get Moss and Welker because of his failure in drafting and developing them too.

    Every one else, he drafted or purchased was dung.

    Pitiful, if you think about it.

    Can't draft receivers, can't draft DB's, cant draft a soul to rush the passer.

    Without Brady, they are the Cleveland Browns.

    Brady ='s more with less

    BB's D ='s less with less.

    That's the way it's going down in the books for all the world to see.

    Doubled down ????????  BWAHAHAHA.  He had to go out and get a #1 & a #2, DB.

      That means without them there are a bunch of 3's thru 6's  who would not start on any team.

    Yup, that's all they've had, 3-6's, thus the BOTTOM Barrel D's., for years.

    God, what a dope!

     
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