Brady fed up with receivers

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    The midweek NFL injury report came out Wednesday, and as usual New England did not list the most obvious item.

    Name: Tom Brady. Position: Quarterback. Injury: Tongue. Game Status: Probable.

    The Patriots’ offense is a mess. As he has done throughout his career, Brady bit his tongue when asked why. By now it must be hanging together by a couple of taste buds.

    “I just want us to score points,” Brady said pleasantly at his press conference.

    That’s been a bit of a problem so far. New England averaged a league-leading 34.8 points last season. Then its top five receivers were either released, injured, left un-signed or charged with murder.

    Despite that, Bill Belichick's overall plan is on track. The Patriots are 4-1 heading into Sunday’s FOX Game of the Week against New Orleans. They are also averaging 19.0 points a game and coming off one of the all-time Brady era stinkers.

    The 13-6 loss to Cincinnati was so bad people are starting to question Brady's mortality. He has seven touchdown passes this season, barely five quarters work these days for Peyton Manning. Last week was the first time in 53 games that Brady didn’t throw a touchdown pass.

    Part of it was the monsoon conditions and part of it was Brady. But an excessive amount was his supporting cast of rookies and retreads.

    So what else is new?

    On the list of all-time quarterbacks, Brady has always had to do the most with the least.

    Joe Montana had Jerry Rice and John Taylor. Terry Bradshaw had Lynn Swann and John Stallworth. Dan Marino had Mark Duper and Mark Clayton.

    Brett Favre had Sterling Sharpe, Antonio Freeman and Donald Driver. John Elway had the Three Amigos, Shannon Sharpe, Rod Smith and Steve Watson. Even Gladys Knight had the Pips.

    Brady had Jabar Gaffney.

    It hasn't always been that dire, but for every Wes Welker there have been four Reche Caldwells. The Dog-and-Pony-and-Ochocinco Show was finally enough to make Brady scream last month. He also clutched his helmet, flailed his arms and stewed on the bench.

    It all happened during New England’s clunking 13-10 win over the Jets in Week 2. Unlike his tongue, Brady could not bite his entire body. But he quickly vowed to make its language comport to Brady family standards. If we’re ever going to enjoy a good venting, it will have to come from wife Gisele Bundchen.

    “My husband cannot throw the (bleeping) ball and catch the ball at the same,” she famously said after the 2011 Super Bowl.

    Her husband’s current take is standard-issue Brady.

    “You let your emotions get into it and feelings and so forth,” he said. “But realistically, you have to come up with a plan.”

    New England’s master plan hasn’t changed this century. It’s based on the coaching, the system, an occasional spy, and plugging in pieces around its master quarterback.

    When Brady had receivers like Welker and Randy Moss in 2007, the Patriots rewrote offensive history and almost went unbeaten. When the Patriots relied on flotsam and jetsam, they knew Brady would raise everyone’s game enough to get by.

    There have been blips, though none approaching the current dysfunction. That's what happens when players who accounted for 85 percent of your offense last year are no longer around.

    To be fair, nobody knew Aaron Hernandez would be exposed as an alleged homicidal maniac. But everyone knew Rob Gronkowski’s serial surgeries would make him a football flight risk.

    New England let Welker go to Denver for a modest $6 million a year. Danny Woodhead bolted to San Diego for $3.5 million over two years. Brandon Lloyd and his 74 catches were released.

    The plan was to plug in holdover Julian Edelman, free agent Danny Amendola and rookies Aaron Dobson and Kenbrell Thompkins. None will ever be confused for Stanley Morgan.

    When Brady goes home at night he must ask his football-analyst wife if the Patriots covet money more than wins. In February, he signed a contract extension that's way below market value ($57 million for four years) in order to give owner Robert Kraft more cap space to sign talent.

    Sure, Bundchen made $42 million last year, so they can still fly Business Class to their private island. But the Patriots are almost $10 million under the salary cap. There's principle involved.

    It doesn't help that Welker went to catch passes from Manning. Various sources said Brady was “beyond enraged” and “feels like he's been pierced in the heart” when New England failed to re-sign his favorite receiver. Except for the body-language tantrum in Week 2, Brady has remained a good soldier.

    “You have to focus on what your job is,” he said, “and try to do it the best you can regardless of who's out there.”

    Who's been out there has dropped 17 passes this season, including six against the Bengals. None, Gisele would note, were by her husband.

    He is No. 1 in her heart but No. 22 on the NFL quarterback charts with an 80.5 rating. That's three behind Geno Smith, who is not married to a supermodel.

    At 36, Brady is easing past his prime. His accuracy and reads haven't had their usual crispness. But a 26-year-old Tom couldn't make up for all that ails New England right now.

    The offensive line is getting shoved around. Receivers aren't running precise routes. Gronk is a medical mystery.

    He's supposed to make his 2013 debut Sunday, so at least Brady may no longer have to try hitting tackle Nate Solder in the red zone. That was one of last week's pratfalls, where the Patriots converted one of 12 third downs.

    It's an ugly scene in Foxboro, though not all that shocking. The Patriots have lost 10 regular-season games in the past four years. Nine of them came in the first half of the season. Belichick figures injuries will subside, the new guys will figure things out and Brady will do the rest.

    That's the plan. That's always the plan.

    It's amazing the Master hasn't bitten his tongue clean off.

     
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    First off don't paste the whole article, that's copyright infringement, post an excerpt and a link. 

    Second, this article hardly reporting or news. Nor does it establish anything. It's a very lazy piece of reporting. In fact there is no reporting at all. 

    I do agree with the general opinion Brady has had to do more with less a lot of the time. And yeah, I have issues with Belichick over that. 

    But that's old news. No one knows exactly how Brady feels about it - the supposed behind the scenes comments have never been verified. 

    He probably IS pretty upset that he restructured his contract and they left him with this sorry group. But there is no reporting out there that is credible on this topic. In the franchise's defense, if Hernandez and Gronk are out there healthy with their big contracts, it doesn't look so bad right now for Brady in terms of his weapons. There's some degree of bad luck there (and some questionable drafting philosophies, but at an any rate it's not like no effort was made to give him weapons). 

    It doesn't really matter if Brady is pissed or not. It matters whether he can pull it together and whether they can win some games and make a push. 

     

     
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    “I just want us to score points,” Brady said pleasantly at his press conference.

     

    Thats all he said. Where does it say he is fed up with his receivers?

    Stupid thread.

     
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    “I just want us to score points,” Brady said pleasantly at his press conference.

     

    Thats all he said. Where does it say he is fed up with his receivers?

    Stupid thread.

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    Just using what the title on msn was. 

    Clearly if you don't see that he is fed up with them then you are in denial.

     
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    First off don't paste the whole article, that's copyright infringement, post an excerpt and a link. 

    Second, this article hardly reporting or news. Nor does it establish anything. It's a very lazy piece of reporting. In fact there is no reporting at all. 

    I do agree with the general opinion Brady has had to do more with less a lot of the time. And yeah, I have issues with Belichick over that. 

    But that's old news. No one knows exactly how Brady feels about it - the supposed behind the scenes comments have never been verified. 

    He probably IS pretty upset that he restructured his contract and they left him with this sorry group. But there is no reporting out there that is credible on this topic. In the franchise's defense, if Hernandez and Gronk are out there healthy with their big contracts, it doesn't look so bad right now for Brady in terms of his weapons. There's some degree of bad luck there (and some questionable drafting philosophies, but at an any rate it's not like no effort was made to give him weapons). 

    It doesn't really matter if Brady is pissed or not. It matters whether he can pull it together and whether they can win some games and make a push. 

     

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    Does every story need to be a "reporting"?  Clearly there are many things that are correct in this writing so call it an information piece if that fits your needs better. 

     
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    In response to BostonTrollSpanker's comment:
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    First off don't paste the whole article, that's copyright infringement, post an excerpt and a link. 

    Second, this article hardly reporting or news. Nor does it establish anything. It's a very lazy piece of reporting. In fact there is no reporting at all. 

    I do agree with the general opinion Brady has had to do more with less a lot of the time. And yeah, I have issues with Belichick over that. 

    But that's old news. No one knows exactly how Brady feels about it - the supposed behind the scenes comments have never been verified. 

    He probably IS pretty upset that he restructured his contract and they left him with this sorry group. But there is no reporting out there that is credible on this topic. In the franchise's defense, if Hernandez and Gronk are out there healthy with their big contracts, it doesn't look so bad right now for Brady in terms of his weapons. There's some degree of bad luck there (and some questionable drafting philosophies, but at an any rate it's not like no effort was made to give him weapons). 

    It doesn't really matter if Brady is pissed or not. It matters whether he can pull it together and whether they can win some games and make a push. 

     

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    Brady isn't an idiot.  Rusty, now he's an idiot. And anybody who is not an idiot (or afflicted with a severe case of homerism) knows BB has done a very ho-hum job as GM and has let the team around Brady slowly slide into mediocrity. Of course Brady knows this, he's the damned victim of all these dunder-headed mistakes by BB! And now BB has allowed the receiver situation to become a shamble, just when he finally seems to have put a half way decent D on the field thanks to a spiffy trade for Talib. As a fan I find it infuriating. I can only imagine how steamed an aging HOF QB who has to bear the brunt of this would be.

     

     

     
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    Can't wait to see what rusty/riding with the king/harvey wallbanger says about this.

     
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    “I just want us to score points,” Brady said pleasantly at his press conference.

     

    Thats all he said. Where does it say he is fed up with his receivers?

    Stupid thread.

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    He pretty much would be an imbecile if he wasn't fed up with them. LMAO

     
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    “I just want us to score points,” Brady said pleasantly at his press conference.

     

    Thats all he said. Where does it say he is fed up with his receivers?

    Stupid thread.

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    He pretty much would be an imbecile if he wasn't fed up with them. LMAO

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    Apparently Brady sux and it is all his fault.

     
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    “I just want us to score points,” Brady said pleasantly at his press conference.

     

    Thats all he said. Where does it say he is fed up with his receivers?

    Stupid thread.




    He pretty much would be an imbecile if he wasn't fed up with them. LMAO



    Apparently Brady sux and it is all his fault.

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    It's usually the HOFers fault and the rookies have to just put up with them.

    Hopefully Brady will retire soon so this amazing machine BB has built won't be held back anymore. LMAO

     
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    “I just want us to score points,” Brady said pleasantly at his press conference.

     

    Thats all he said. Where does it say he is fed up with his receivers?

    Stupid thread.




    He pretty much would be an imbecile if he wasn't fed up with them. LMAO



    Apparently Brady sux and it is all his fault.

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    It's usually the HOFers fault and the rookies have to just put up with them.

    Hopefully Brady will retire soon so this amazing machine BB has built won't be held back anymore. LMAO

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    I wonder who Harvey Wallbanger will blame then???

     
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    I will continue to maintain, in my humble opinion, that Brady has nothing against the kids. I will also continue to believe that Brady is livid, incensed, over the Patriots and the Welker situation.

     
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    Doesn't this article with tongue in cheek sum up what many, many here in New England feel? Haven't the draft misses at CB and WR the past 5 years effected the quality and quantity of depth on this roster? Any dumb koff can come on this board and gloat about the yearLy free agent find such as Fletcher from the unknown bin. Can anyone with an objective eye come on this board and gloat about free agency when the positives are 1 years band aids Carter, Crump and Anderson, and boast about signing our own, yet have Mankins contract, the tragic Hern situation,  Arringtons over pay and resigning Talib to 1 year? 

    Proof is in black and white on this roster...the amount of UDfA's and rookie and 2nd year players is not a good sign that this team is set. talent, depth and experience win in this league. Pats are lacking in experience and depth. Remains to be seen where the talent falls. 

    I posted a thread on cut down day...titled "I don't like this roster" ....this has always been my team and always will be, but this years team needs every ounce Bb can coax out of it...any hiccup in coaching, and the Cincy game is the outcome. 

     
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    One question that I have had all year is this.  Manning leaves the Colts and goes to Denver.  The offense is explosive and the receivers are making catches.  In the past ten years, receivers have come into Foxboro and departed as stiffs.  Is it the system?  Is it the Quarterback?  Are these receivers that bad?  I am having a hard time to believe that the receivers are the problem. 

    This team has the ability to win it all.   The receivers are getting open.  How many times this year has the receivers been wide open and Brady missed the read.  With time this offense will be explosive again, if Brady quits trying to be precise.  He needs to look at himself first.  Adjust to what the receivers are giving him.

     
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    Agree, take a look at Brady throwing even in 2010 vs now, big difference.  BB makes 7.5 million a year, I have to wonder if the drive to win is still as strong as 10 years ago, the older you get, the more money you make, the easier life becomes, resting on your reputation and past sucess happens every day.  Take a look at his press conferences, I get it that he does not want to give anything away but the arrogance and condescion is over the top, this isnt life and death its football and its entertainment-nothing more and nothing less.

     
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    Hands down (no pun intended) the best piece I've read so far this season. Written tongue in cheek this captures the absurdity of what TB has to deal with every game. I can see that not every fan sees the humour in this post. Though there is plenty of biting truth (besides Brady's tongue) here- the author takes the cast of characters and is able to put in perspective who the Pats O are and aren't this year.  Thanks for posting.

     
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    One question that I have had all year is this.  Manning leaves the Colts and goes to Denver.  The offense is explosive and the receivers are making catches.  In the past ten years, receivers have come into Foxboro and departed as stiffs.  Is it the system?  Is it the Quarterback?  Are these receivers that bad?  I am having a hard time to believe that the receivers are the problem. 

    This team has the ability to win it all.   The receivers are getting open.  How many times this year has the receivers been wide open and Brady missed the read.  With time this offense will be explosive again, if Brady quits trying to be precise.  He needs to look at himself first.  Adjust to what the receivers are giving him.

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    What has any of theses gems done in in anyone's system with anyone's QB and with any other coaches?

    It's called garbage in.......garbage out.  Quite simply.

    Need a REAL GM!

     
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    sighhhh

     
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    Nothing new here.

    Although and please don't jump on my ignorance ,  who's fault would you say it is not taking advantage of Brady re-vamped contract opening up cap space ?  Is it BB for not trying to sign someone ? or if BB under orders from Kraft ? Because I feel after the last Superbowl the Pats went to there hasn't been much of an upgrade (won't go as far as a downgrade).

    Again, these are innocent questions and not trying to point a finger at anyone , just curious what the majority of you guys think .

     
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    No doubt the man is frustrated, but I'm not sure you can say he's "fed up with receivers".  Has he said that? 

    I'm guessing that he is bothered by drops, incorrect routes, missed blocks, poorly thrown passes, fumbles, injuries, and ineffectiveness in the red-zone.  It all adds up to what I believe he is truly most "fed up" with...not enough points scored.  I think any annoyance he has with his receivers is probably nearly equal with the annoyance he has regarding his own performance, up to this point.  I also believe that he and the rest of the team will continue to work on those sources of frustration and continue to show improvement. 

    Like it or not, it takes time to develop chemistry with new players.

     
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    In response to msteven's comment:
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    One question that I have had all year is this.  Manning leaves the Colts and goes to Denver.  The offense is explosive and the receivers are making catches.  In the past ten years, receivers have come into Foxboro and departed as stiffs.  Is it the system?  Is it the Quarterback?  Are these receivers that bad?  I am having a hard time to believe that the receivers are the problem. 

    This team has the ability to win it all.   The receivers are getting open.  How many times this year has the receivers been wide open and Brady missed the read.  With time this offense will be explosive again, if Brady quits trying to be precise.  He needs to look at himself first.  Adjust to what the receivers are giving him.

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    A.) None of these WRs/TEs who've failed hee have done anything elsewhere.

    B.) The group of WRs/TEs who've had success here show it can be done. 

    If A and B then C.

    C.) Brady isn't the issue. 

    Give the receivers time. Be realistic .... not all draft picks are successes, especially when they are beneath the first couple rounds. 

     
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    Great post Uncle Rico.  Fans should be giving Brady all their support for what he's had to put up with this season.

     
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    It is a team game and play makers on offense are lacking right now.  Looking at other top flight teams, they have multiple playmakers on their offenses.  Even the 0 - 6 Giants have more playmakers on their offense than the Pats.  Go figure!

     
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