Brady suddenly struggling in Pats’ biggest games

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    In Response to Re: Brady suddenly struggling in Pats’ biggest games : Affrimative, Brady was clubbing the w/e before the SB.  That is a fact. A poster here wrote last week that he had read or heard that Brady was seen in a Boston club last Sunday a.m.  Not smart.  Not just not smart. But make no mistake, I think Brady is one of the best all-time.  He has not been the best all-time in the past 10 post-season games, and reading about him being out at night is disturbing when coupled wiht that reality. As for him scoring that last, go-ahead TD last week, let's not whitewash one of his worst post-season games ever.  The Pats won in spite of Brady, not because, and he said so himself.  Take off the blinkers, homers.
    Posted by chrisakawoody


    Wow Chris, you're usually more level headed than that.
    A poster said he was seen on Treemont St @ 12:30 a.  Doesn't he live there?
    I don't remember any one saying he was clubbing and I seem to remember TB saying himself, that he does not drink. (don't quote me on that)
    If he were even out, which I doubt, where are the millions of pics of it and the breaking news TMZ report, that usually follows if TB is seen buying toilet paper?
    As far as hot and cold goes, you don't think that has anything to do with the opposition and the ability of the offense to get open?
    Yup he made some bad decisions in the Ravens game but a lot of that was due to him trying to force things. I don't think there's a QB alive that doesn't miss open receivers. 
    Not trying to make excuses but hidden behind the few bad throws were nearly 30 of them that weren't.  The team didn't win the game without him.
     
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    In Response to Re: Brady suddenly struggling in Pats’ biggest games : Affrimative, Brady was clubbing the w/e before the SB.  That is a fact. A poster here wrote last week that he had read or heard that Brady was seen in a Boston club last Sunday a.m.  Not smart.  Not just not smart. But make no mistake, I think Brady is one of the best all-time.  He has not been the best all-time in the past 10 post-season games, and reading about him being out at night is disturbing when coupled wiht that reality. As for him scoring that last, go-ahead TD last week, let's not whitewash one of his worst post-season games ever.  The Pats won in spite of Brady, not because, and he said so himself.  Take off the blinkers, homers. Posted by chrisakawoody
    It is not affirmative or a fact just because some guy you don't know says he heard somewhere that he can't remember that he was.
     
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    In Response to Re: Brady suddenly struggling in Pats’ biggest games : This recent report, I am taking at faith.  The one from SB42 was reported in the New York papers.  It was no secret.  The guy was hoofing around clubs in his walking boot.  Absolutely stupid.  I've had my share of severe sprains and know how to treat them.  Clubbing and walking are anti-treatments.  Good luck finding the article now because the 'net is flooded with new stories this week that bury it, but I read the story myself. Posted by chrisakawoody
    This article cites an espn article that he was in the clubs, it then links the article. Click the link to the article and no such report is there. It's an error. It was reported he and photographed he went to his girlfriends house with a walking boot on. The end.
     
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    Even my 70 year old mother last week asked what is wrong with Brady, and this was after she asked all year long just what is it? Obviously, she is a very casual Pats fan, but even see sees it!  
    Posted by RustyGriswold



    Well, at least we all know where you inherited your football genius.


     
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    Two things are being debated here. Here where I come down,

    The before game partying and not taking care of injuries: Sure TB might be out late but pretty sure anything he does has zero affect on his game. This is not Lawrence Taylor we are talking about.

    Hot and cold? Yes he is, and the big eyeopener last game was the shot down the field after the int. He threw in to traffic, looking to blow the game open. I think he gets worn down by the constant pressure in a game like that against a good D and needs a pressure release, just like someone in a constant finacial struggle might buy a lottery ticket.
    It is tremendous stress on Brady to 'dink and dunk' as Pollard puts it.  The Pats offense simply does not stretch the field which gives Brady less space and time margin than any other QB.

    There is also a lot more mental work that goes into his game, he is making decisions every play, there are many QB's in the NFL that take plays and run them..really simple.

    It does not help at all that everyone in the stadium knows the PAtriots are 'using the run to set up the pass'. (yes as Rusty says they do err on the side of being Pass-happy) Meaning, as the other team,  once you get past 4 BJGE 10 yard runs up the gut you don't have to worry about the run anymore. Not exactly a good way to take the pressure off.

    So in the end I think Brady cracks under the pressure which does not result in a complete breakdown but a couple overthrown passes and a couple ints, on the plus side some gutsy calls that sometimes work.
     
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    Did Shenanigan just average out the QB Rating in each playofff game to try to sell that as being good? lol These aren't 7 game series, where your goalie can lay an egg in one game and then come back and play well. Brady needs to hitting around a 90 rating, minumum in most, if not all games, especially now when it matters. End of story. Posted by RustyGriswold
    Okay, name one QB in NFL history who meets your standards of having a 90 rating in every game. Since you can't there apparently has never been a QB in the history of the NFL who's any good. So all he has to do to satisfy you is be better than any QB has ever been, that might just be an impossibly high standard. BTW- the first time Brady had a rating higher than 90 was his sixth playoff game. I think the Pats will face good and bad defenses and the team will struggle to score against great defenses in the playoffs but great QBs win when they have an opportunity at the end of the game, that's what Brady did...again.
     
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    OK, Brady-b*ggering-wanna'-be's, here is a link to one such story about Brady clubbing in NYC on his sprained ankle before SB42, and without his walking boot, which was even more foolish:  http://voices.yahoo.com/tom-bradys-cast-not-serious-matter-835191.html Thanks for cutting me down as a fool with no facts.  It makes doing the same to you so much more satisfying after I present my facts. Man...
    Posted by chrisakawoody

    Chris, we all remember the photo of Brady in Manhattan with the walking boot on.  But it was broad daylight.  If he was out clubbing the night before the Super Bowl that would be a bit over the top . . . but I've seen no evidence that he was.  If he was out late at night one evening a week before the Super Bowl, well I'm not sure that's such a big deal.

    Listening to you and Rusty, you'd think Brady were some kind of slouch. That's absurd.  Brady isn't a choker.  It's just that the defenses we've faced in the playoffs have matched up well against our offense's strengths . . .  and our defense, while okay, tends to give up big drives at inopportune times.  

     
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    Tom will be at his absolute best in this game. He spent time with DR.Martinez this week and all is fine in the QB's head again....Someone give that man a new kidney,if I didn't have but one infected one left I would.
     
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    . My uncles have been going to games since 1978. I grew up around football. Period.  I have been to so many Pats games, I lost count. Mocking me won't work. You lost. THEY, too, are scratching their heads with Brady as are my friends on emails after every game, every week.  
    Posted by RustyGriswold

    Even if you have a whole horde of geriatric relatives in hysterics over Brady's play, senility isn't supposed to be contagious . . . 


     
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    I bet the Pats could get Sanchez on the cheap.
     
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    We spent years making fun of Manning for this and now we're going to pretend this is not what Brady is sort of doing now? 
    Posted by RustyGriswold


    I always though Bradys big edge over Manning was trusting the rest of the team and not trying to do too much himself.

    I remember a 4 pick game by Manning vs. the Pats , remeber thinking Manning jus lost this game by taking everything on his own shoulders.

    Don't think Brady is there yet, but as I just posted in those tough game there is too much stress on his decision making every play and it definately drives him to make mistakes. He could help himself and the team a lot encouraging pressure releif plays like runs and screens.
     
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    He is in his fifth SB! Think how absurd it is to say to someone with 3 SB wins 6 AFC championship wins and on his 5th SB appearance struggles in big games. John Elway struggles in big games, Joe Montana struggles in big games, Tom Brady struggles in big games. You can say things like that in the microcosm of Boston.com where every play is over analyzed but if you take that show on the road people will laugh at that statement. And they should.
     
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    Right. Explain why a 57.9( whatever it is) rating is great. Thanks, HUmans and PAts Fans with an IQ just even above 100
    Posted by RustyGriswold


    Rus,
  23. You should know this better than any one as you are a smart poster.
    QB ratings are a way to rate the QB but not necessarily indicative of his play.

  24. Percentage of completions per attempt
  25. Average yards gained per attempt
  26. Percentage of touchdown passes per attempt
  27. Percentage of interceptions per attempt

  28. Percentage of completions can be determined by many factors, to include: dropped passes, batted away passes, receivers being interfered with, wrong routes by receivers, receivers falling down, QB pressures, ect...ect...ect

    Average yards gained also is on receivers, although it's his job to put them in a place to succeed, it doesn't always happen that way.

    percentage of Tds/attempt determined by game plan and receivers.  (ie, they chose to run in tds instead of passing because opponent doesn't allow many passing TDs)

    Interceptions are often  (not always) tipped passes and just good defensive play.

    If in the Bronco game, Gronk doesn't make that diving catch or Dion doesn't push off on the defender to score or if Wes.... Brady's PR goes down.
    In the Jest came, if there weren't 2 dropped passes in the EZ or a muffed hand off , Brady's rating goes up. 
    The outcome of the game is also usually determined the same way.
    In other words: "it takes a village."

 
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    Rusty, the reason I'm not admitting I'm wrong is because I'm right.  Yes, yes, yes, Brady is not always perfect.  I'm not arguing that.  But if you think because he makes a mistake once in a while (in-between a whole bunch of great plays) we need to "rein" him in, you're just not watching the games carefully enough.  

    And the idea that we're "loaded" on offense isn't right.  Yes, Gronk, Hernandez, and Welker are all special players.  Branch is quite good too.  After that, though, we've got a bunch of guys who are just okay.  You (and others) keep calling for more BJGE, more Ridley, more Edelman, more whoever . . . and yet, BB keeps doing what he has been doing.  Apparently, I'm "wrong" if I don't trust you and your hysterical relatives and friends, and instead think . . .Hmmm . . . maybe there's a reason BB is doing what he's doing.  Maybe I'm just terribly mislead, but somehow I tend to trust Belichick's judgment more than yours.  And Belichick isn't following your adivce.  Once he does, then I'll admit I'm wrong.  As long as he continues not too, however, I'm perfectly confident saying I'm right. 

    And as far as the defense being stellar . . . only in your upside down world is that the case.  Yes, the defense has played better recently.  But it still has a tendency to give up long, clock-eating drives.  Sometimes they keep the other team from scoring or get a turnover--and that's good.  But the long drives do have negative consequences: they eat up clock and keep our own offense off the field (but I suppose you think that's good, given your distrust of our QB); they give the other team chances to score; and they tend to result in our offense starting its drives deeper in its own territory.  If you think I'm wrong and you're right about the defense, that's your perogative . . . but I'm certainly not going to "admit" anything except that I'm right. Not only the statistics--but also any objective viewing of the games--proves that the Pats give up long drives regularly.  Even last game, when the defense played comparatively well, there were some real stinkers--even some of the drives that ended well, ate up a lot of clock.  This is just reality.  

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