Brady's contract re structure in offseason

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    Brady's contract re structure in offseason

    Does anyone know what the point of him doing that was. It by all reports was a cap friendly re structure for now. I was happy to hear of it and expected possibly a big free agent signing or 2 but alas no. All they did was replace Welker and the only 2 other free agent signings of any note were Kelly and Wilson(now on I.R) who certainly wouldn't have broken the bank. Is there some award for the team that wins the most games with the most money left under the cap or something? NE should and probably will win the division again but come playoff time the lack of quality in key positions will bite them again. Particularly at DB and WR

     
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    Does anyone know what the point of him doing that was. It by all reports was a cap friendly re structure for now. I was happy to hear of it and expected possibly a big free agent signing or 2 but alas no. All they did was replace Welker and the only 2 other free agent signings of any note were Kelly and Wilson(now on I.R) who certainly wouldn't have broken the bank. Is there some award for the team that wins the most games with the most money left under the cap or something? NE should and probably will win the division again but come playoff time the lack of quality in key positions will bite them again. Particularly at DB and WR



    He only gave up 6-8 million if I remember correctly, the Pats were 6-8 million in free cap space by the start of training camp. In other words, Brady gave the Pats room to breathe.

     
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    The question is would 6 to 8 mil have been more than enough to get through the season?  Maybe they did target a few people and it just never panned out. Its not like BB is going to open up and tell us.

     
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    how much cap can you carry over?

    How much cap did they carry over?

    What happens to the unused cap? Doesn't it go into some sort of pool? So the Pats never really save money

     

    The extra crop may have already paid for AH?

    doesnt the  cap also help in possible trades like Talib?

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    The Pats did sign Vollmer, Arrington and Talib, as well as Amendola and Kelly....they also have the maneuverability to re do McCourty, Wendell or Nink is they see fit. If some one does go down, they also have the financial ability to reach out to a vet that is available ( ex. waters, Seymour, Abraham)

    Brady in 2013 and 2014 will save the Pats approx $16 million against the cap as he was scheduled to earn approx $22 million each of those seasons. 

    Imo this is an unprecedented move by a player, and the Pats paying 1/5th of the cap to one player in 13 and 14 would either have been horrific to the team, or would have caused BB to make the BB decision to part ways with TB

    This deal was also very financially beneficial to TB, as his contract worth more than doubled in his 38 thru 40 years of age....

     
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    Brady got hosed.  He took less money so they could spend more elsehwere and what happens?  They sit with a ton of cap room instead.

     
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    Brady got hosed.  He took less money so they could spend more elsehwere and what happens?  They sit with a ton of cap room instead.



    Brady did not get hosed financially. He will see $70 million if he stays healthy. He was scheduled to get the remaining 2 years of $25 million. Of the $70, he got $30 million up front. 

    Many here feel he got hosed with what the team decided to do with the savings. But c'mon, this is BB. No way no how he made any concessions to Brady about what he would do with the savings other than to try and improve the team as best as he sees fit. 

     
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    he did  restructure the present deal but did get paid an extra 3 mil up front as part of the restructure.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2013/02/26/tom-brady-contract-breakdown/1949135/

     
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    I wasn't clear.  He took less money for the extension to help the team.  $9M for Tom Brady is a joke.  What does he get in return?  The hurt guy and a bunch of cheap rookies.

    Brutal.

     
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    The deal includes a $30 million signing bonus for the quarterback, which will be paid out over a period that extends to Feb. 15, 2015, according to a league source. Brady will earn $10 million of that signing bonus during the 2013 season, $5 million in a payment on Feb. 15, 2014, $10 million during the 2014 season, and $5 million on Feb. 15, 2015. 

    Brady's salary for 2013 and 2014 are now $1 million and $2 million respectively, and are fully guaranteed. His old deal was scheduled to pay him $9.75 million in base salary for each of those seasons. 

    Brady's salary for 2015, 2016, 2017 are $7 million, $8 million, and $9 million, which are fully guaranteed for injury only. That means that if Brady is released because of an injury, he will still be paid that money. In the unlikely event that he were released due to skill considerations, he would not be paid that money. 

    Regarding Brady's salary cap charges, the breakdown is as follows: 

    2013: $13.8 million 
    2014: $14.8 million 
    2015: $13 million 
    2016: $14 million 
    2017: $15 million 

    The annual salaries for the final three years as well as the salary cap charges for the life of the contract are consistent with what has been laid out already, though the $30 million signing bonus is of note. 


     
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    I wasn't clear.  He took less money for the extension to help the team.  $9M for Tom Brady is a joke.  What does he get in return?  The hurt guy and a bunch of cheap rookies.

    Brutal.



    That's what I thought too. Look at the blokes Flaco,Rodgers and Manning have to throw to and look at what Brady has. Then compare the defenses that those teams have now and have had. Where is the money going in New England? Look at all the weapons Seattle and Sanfran have on both sides of the ball.

     
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    I wasn't clear.  He took less money for the extension to help the team.  $9M for Tom Brady is a joke.  What does he get in return?  The hurt guy and a bunch of cheap rookies.

    Brutal.

     



    That's what I thought too. Look at the blokes Flaco,Rodgers and Manning have to throw to and look at what Brady has. Then compare the defenses that those teams have now and have had. Where is the money going in New England? Look at all the weapons Seattle and Sanfran have on both sides of the ball.

     



    Seattle and San Fran were at the bottom of the league for years and had a lot of high picks. They also got first crack at the waiver wire. They are also not paying alot to their QBs -Yet!. Wait until they have been up there and win a SB - then lets see how they stay around. Its not fair to compare the Pats situation with historical bottom dwellers.

    Flacco has no one to throw to now. Rogers - he has a few wrs, a horrible oline and a D ranked near the bottom. Denver was also a near bottom dweller, screwed up their Defense and has a few wr's including Welker - but you know? older players get hurt easier and WW is NFL old and been beaten up alot.

    We saw last year a number of rookie and 1st yr qbs do well. Why cannot a wr? TB may have more weapons this year than any other - and that includes 2007 - so lets cool our jets (no pun intended). Our Offense wiil  be fine. We will still dazzle the average clubs and the good clubs will be a war. I have seen no one we could have brought in that was a good deal.

    How can you feel sorry for Brady? did you see his house? did yoiu know he makes more outside of the Pats, do yuou know how much his wife makes? - He gets all his money, Hallowed the Pats cap flexibility in fhe cap falt years. Pats will not be crippled by teh AH mess. It allows flexibility to make a variety of moves. FA's have a history of being over paid and not working out.

    Unless you get top talent at the peak years - it won;t work out. Goping for name players is buying high and selling low.

     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzuwodZ7Ass

     

     
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    How can you feel sorry for Brady? did you see his house? did yoiu know he makes more outside of the Pats, do yuou know how much his wife makes?



    Because his wife brings in a haul, it's okay to short change him?  The guy has been one of the best players in the NFL for over a decade.  He's making similar money to below average QBs.  His peers are making at least double what he is.

    The size of his house doesn't matter.  He should be paid for what he's worth, or if he accepts less money in order to help the team win, he should be given more than a sea of rookies and Mr. Injury.

    Welker would have been easy to afford, and considering the cap room, even Greg Jennings would have fit.

    Instead, Brady is just making less and the Pats save money.

     
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    Spreading the money out is better for tax purposes. The more he makes in a single year the more difficult it is to protect it from taxes.

    I'm sure Brady has a tax attorney or advisor that went through the restructuring with him. 

     

     
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    He is making MORE money with the extension than he would have if he did not extend given his age. 

     

     
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    He is making MORE money with the extension than he would have if he did not extend given his age. 



    Come on.  That's pure speculation.

     
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    "He is making MORE money with the extension than he would have if he did not extend given his age."

     

     

     

    Exactly!  And I don't think I've ever heard or read where Tom Brady has complained about his contract.  And if he's not complaining about it, why should anyone else? 

     



     

     
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    How can you feel sorry for Brady? did you see his house? did yoiu know he makes more outside of the Pats, do yuou know how much his wife makes?

     



    Because his wife brings in a haul, it's okay to short change him?  The guy has been one of the best players in the NFL for over a decade.  He's making similar money to below average QBs.  His peers are making at least double what he is.

     

    The size of his house doesn't matter.  He should be paid for what he's worth, or if he accepts less money in order to help the team win, he should be given more than a sea of rookies and Mr. Injury.

    Welker would have been easy to afford, and considering the cap room, even Greg Jennings would have fit.

    Instead, Brady is just making less and the Pats save money.



    No the Pats don't save money -the players are guaranteed a fixed per centage. The Pats have to pony up.

    I knew my house comment would  be tossed back, but the point is, if TB feels he is properly compensated why do you think he isn't? He is doing what he feels is best for him, his family and the Pats - Quite frankly - after CA. Mass, Fed taxes along with his agent and lawyer fees, any extra amount is noise to him. And that I could care less

     
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    How can you feel sorry for Brady? did you see his house? did yoiu know he makes more outside of the Pats, do yuou know how much his wife makes?

     



    The guy has been one of the best players in the NFL for over a decade.  He's making similar money to below average QBs.  His peers are making at least double what he is.

     



    And somebody has the idiocy to complain about what he makes. Ludicrous.

     
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    how much cap can you carry over?

    How much cap did they carry over?

    What happens to the unused cap? Doesn't it go into some sort of pool? So the Pats never really save money

     

    The extra crop may have already paid for AH?

    doesnt the  cap also help in possible trades like Talib?

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    $5 million you can carry over

     
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    And somebody has the idiocy to complain about what he makes. Ludicrous.



    Yeah, it's pretty wild to think of Brady being paid too much as an issue.

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    I wasn't clear.  He took less money for the extension to help the team.  $9M for Tom Brady is a joke.  What does he get in return?  The hurt guy and a bunch of cheap rookies.

    Brutal.



    Tom Brady took the extension because it made sense for Tom Brady...the time value of money means slightly less cash taken today and invested at more than the rate of inflation will be worth more over many years than taking slightly more money today and having that eaten up by inflation...it's a solid finance principal, and they all do it when they can...they can also take advantages of current tax laws for capital gains.....

    He did it for him, not the team...don't be hoodwinked to think that...

     
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    And somebody has the idiocy to complain about what he makes. Ludicrous.

     



    Yeah, it's pretty wild to think of Brady being paid too much as an issue.

     

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    Well, I've seen only one idiot have the idiocy to ever refer to it. I'm sure you know who that idiot is.

     
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