Brady's future.

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    Poor Babe has been up since 2:24 this morning tossing and turning trying to figure out a way to blame anybody but Brady for yesterdays defeat.

    Welker dropped and easy ball and Ridley was doing the "He got knocked the F out salute" to the crowd and lost the ball BUT old Tommy Boy looked just that...old.

    That scramble attempt?? Not sure what to call that and that ball that looked like the same  pass to Welker in the SB that he threw way behind #34?/Two INt's and who knows what is QB rating was.

     We'll get into No Vlass BB in  afew but for now lets discuss Brady and the blame game shall we?

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    In response to gr82bme's comment:

    Babe, Glenr:  I get you both (as are all Pats fans) are disappointed from the loss.  I think, especially given his standards, that TB didn't play well.  Thing is, who on the Pats played better.  We lost, it hurts, and tossing out blame is folly - the TEAM lost.  D gave up 21 points in the 2nd half - the O didn't score in the 2nd half and literally wasted good field position in the 1st half.  TB will probably be the first person to say he stunk - but who was our best player on the field yesterday - yup, TB.  Our team isn't perfect and it isn't unbeatable - which team, even of the two remaining, are?




    Was he now? Only a true delusional apologist could come up with that one. You dump on the offense but excuse Brady?

     
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    In response to BabeParilli's comment:

    In response to 42AND46's comment:

     

    In response to dapats1281's comment:

     

    Are you even a Patriots fan? Seems like you're only a Brady fan.

    You continuously throw other players on the team under the bus for the sake of saying that nothing is ever Brady's fault.

     




    I disagree...i think it's more babe defending brady against some over-the-top and silly attacks on brady, led by the queenies of the world

     

     




    Jints, what these people don't get is that this team is pretty mediocre other than Brady. Yes there are a few good players other than him. Gronk, but he has been hurt when we most needed him. Welker, but he has been a boy among men when we needed him. Wilfork is the only real outstanding defender. Mayo is good but overrated around these parts at least.

     

    Nobody did anything in that game and left it all on him and he nor anybody else can do it alone. If they had all played to their generally mediocre abilities then it probably would have ended differently. But when they can't even reach mediocre there is a problem.

    At this point I would hope they trade Brady. Because until they do the fallacy that BB builds great teams will endure and that will only delay the inevitable rebuild of this ho-hum team.

    What these people here need is a good dose of reality and that reality would be to strip away the one thing that has propped this mediocre farce up so it can be seen for what it is.

     




    Classic babe. The whole team and coaching staff stink but Brady is God. Even when he pisses away the clock at the end of the half. Or under throws and overthrows passes. Face it sweetie the whole offense stunk including your love interest.

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from Leonard15. Show Leonard15's posts

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    The Patriots have to make the same decision that the Eagles made with Donnovan McNabb a few years ago as they have to accept that this team will not win another SB with Brady and not without him anytime soon so they might as well bite the bullet and rebuild! The Eagles after 2009 made the assessment that they weren't going to win the SB with McNabb and not without him so they said the hell with all these playoff defeats with McNabb under Center. That's the same approach the Pats need to make b/c 2005-present has been just playoff failure with Tom under Center and thus no need to keep bringing him back so we can just lose in the post-season!

     
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    In response to glenr's comment:

    As expected Babe has embarked on a trip down 'it's never Brady's fault' delusion highway.




    Do you ever contribute anything to the forum other than Babe bashing?

    NO ONE is saying TB played great, he didn't.

    But I am going to go out on a limb here and say that the following influenced his and the teams demise.

    A few less drops.  No QB has ever completed a pass that was dropped.  Most drops in the NFL

    A few less penalties negating completions

    A few less turn-overs

    a few recievers getting seperation

    Better O-line play as he was hurried and hit way more than Flacco.

    A D that can make a goal line stand.  Not one in the whole game????

    A D than can get a turn over

    A D that doesn't extend plays with stupid penalties.

    A D that can get pressure

    A D that doesn't alow passes over 20 again and again and again.

    Bad time management

    Bad coaching with zero adjustments.

    These are not foriegn to this team.  We've been talking about this ALL YEAR (years really)

    Any body really surprised? 

    Babe is right!  The team is not great and not one person can overcome all that.

    He deserves better!

    Even the strongest glue can only hold for so long, especially when there are cracks EVERY WHERE!

     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from UD6. Show UD6's posts

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    Babe, Glenr:  I get you both (as are all Pats fans) are disappointed from the loss.  I think, especially given his standards, that TB didn't play well.  Thing is, who on the Pats played better.  We lost, it hurts, and tossing out blame is folly - the TEAM lost.  D gave up 21 points in the 2nd half - the O didn't score in the 2nd half and literally wasted good field position in the 1st half.  TB will probably be the first person to say he stunk - but who was our best player on the field yesterday - yup, TB.  Our team isn't perfect and it isn't unbeatable - which team, even of the two remaining, are?

     




    Was he now? Only a true delusional apologist could come up with that one. You dump on the offense but excuse Brady?

     


    For the sake of discussion, lets say Brady was the best Pats player on the field, which is debateable.  He wasn't good enough.  There are some on this board that like to point out deficiencies in other QB's when their teams lose.  No different here.  this team was built around Tom Brady.  If other QB's get blasted for their teams losing, so should Brady here. 

    If we play conventional wisdom here, then it is Brady's responsibility to overcome the deficiencies of the rest of the team.  If he doesn't, he fails. 

    But Brady, like other QB's, does not play defense.  He's won only 3 times in the playoffs when his defense has given up more than 21 points. 

     
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    Babe, Glenr:  I get you both (as are all Pats fans) are disappointed from the loss.  I think, especially given his standards, that TB didn't play well.  Thing is, who on the Pats played better.  We lost, it hurts, and tossing out blame is folly - the TEAM lost.  D gave up 21 points in the 2nd half - the O didn't score in the 2nd half and literally wasted good field position in the 1st half.  TB will probably be the first person to say he stunk - but who was our best player on the field yesterday - yup, TB.  Our team isn't perfect and it isn't unbeatable - which team, even of the two remaining, are?

     




    Was he now? Only a true delusional apologist could come up with that one. You dump on the offense but excuse Brady?

     

     


    For the sake of discussion, lets say Brady was the best Pats player on the field, which is debateable.  He wasn't good enough.  There are some on this board that like to point out deficiencies in other QB's when their teams lose.  No different here.  this team was built around Tom Brady.  If other QB's get blasted for their teams losing, so should Brady here. 

     

    If we play conventional wisdom here, then it is Brady's responsibility to overcome the deficiencies of the rest of the team.  If he doesn't, he fails. 

    But Brady, like other QB's, does not play defense.  He's won only 3 times in the playoffs when his defense has given up more than 21 points. 



    As a long time Colts troll, do you troll all teams, or just the Pats?  Do you troll the Texans?  Broncos? 

     

    I'm curious about the brain function of someone like you.  You root for the Colts, but you spend hours, days, weeks, years, writing your passive-aggressive comments on a Pats' fan board?

     

    One post you're trying to ingratiate yourself, the next post you're talking crap. 

     

    Not trying to bust you, I study human psychology, and trolling is always interesting to me.  

     

     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from CablesWyndBairn. Show CablesWyndBairn's posts

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    Man, everbody is crying in their coffee today...

    Maybe the real answer is that it's hard to get to the Superbowl every year.  Who was the last SB runner up to make it the AFC championship game?  It was a good season and the Pats lost to a team on a bit of a hot streak, a team that had a good game plan and has some decent talent.  It's easier to accept that there are other good organizations out there in the NFL who can put a good team on the field.  It's not always about what the Pats did wrong; sometimes it's about what teams like the Ravens are doing right.

    Stop acting like your puppy died and accept the reality of the NFL.  The Pats aren't guaranteed to win it every year.

     
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    Now Now--Let's not bash UD6 just because he's a Colts fan who likes to post here...Cables got it right in the previous post--The Pats aren't guaranteed to win every year. Other teams play too and you people are way too spoiled. Besides, BB & TB's pact with the Devil is almost up and those two win seasons are just around the corner. Wonder what Steve Tasker must think of Belichick today...He is such a sore loser--what a fraud!! Bet he "retires" when the winning ceases...

     
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    Now Now--Let's not bash UD6 just because he's a Colts fan who likes to post here...Cables got it right in the previous post--The Pats aren't guaranteed to win every year. Other teams play too and you people are way too spoiled. Besides, BB & TB's pact with the Devil is almost up and those two win seasons are just around the corner. Wonder what Steve Tasker must think of Belichick today...He is such a sore loser--what a fraud!! Bet he "retires" when the winning ceases...

     
  11. You have chosen to ignore posts from RIDabbler. Show RIDabbler's posts

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    The Patriots pass the ball too much. The playcalling is too one-dimensional, and a symptom of an overestimation of Tom Brady and his skills. Yes, he & the Patriots won three Super Bowls but since then the team has built a shrine to him in the form of an all-pass, all-Brady offense. Belichick, perhaps bored with convention, wants to do the extreme, just to prove a point. Against the better teams, and more physical teams, defenses beat up on the receivers and Brady, and the offense breaks down. The shame is they run the ball well. The arrogance is in not wanting to have to play the game similar to everyone else. The offense lost this game. Belichick, Brady & Kraft lost the last three Super Bowls but not taking a more balanced approach to football and putting all their eggs in the quarterback's basket.

     
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    More balance is a better D. The offense has carried this team for years, always near the top of the NFL, they're due a bad game. It's the "D" that needs to step up and that's BB place.  Yesterday Flacco looked like a cross bertween Manning and Brady. And dont't say we focused on Rice, Flacco stayed in teh shot gun the entire 2nd half.

    The offense needs a shut down corner and a pass rush........

     
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    In response to FrnkBnhm's comment:

    Why would Brady want to leave. There is no team that is a QB away from being anywhere close to the Super Bowl. As much as I whine and moan about the issues this team has (defensive backfield and an offensive designed for the regular season), they were in the Super Bowl last year and the Conference Championship this year. 

    To me, the two biggest issues on this team are named McDaniels and Patricia.




    How about Pete Caroll's Seahawks? Close to home for Tom and a team with a top D.

     
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    Are you even a Patriots fan? Seems like you're only a Brady fan.

    You continuously throw other players on the team under the bus for the sake of saying that nothing is ever Brady's fault.



    Yep... He's a TB fan more than a Pats fan. That is obvious.

     
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    More balance is a better D. The offense has carried this team for years, always near the top of the NFL, they're due a bad game. It's the "D" that needs to step up and that's BB place.  Yesterday Flacco looked like a cross bertween Manning and Brady. And dont't say we focused on Rice, Flacco stayed in teh shot gun the entire 2nd half.

    The offense needs a shut down corner and a pass rush........



    It's not so much the offense or the defense......key injuries hobbled the defense.  What bothered me the most was Brady not being tough enough. On two occasions he could have run for first down and chose not to.  He was clearly afraid of getting hit.  This has been a pattern for some time now.  He should take a lesson from Welker.  

     
  16. You have chosen to ignore posts from LHNYJ. Show LHNYJ's posts

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    Bebe- Are you trying to tell everybody that Brady has nothing to do with yesterdays debacle at Gillette?

    You are the Commisioner of the Brady Apologists Group but that organization fell apart yesterday.

    Brady looked like a deer in the headlights and oh so very very very old.

     
  17. You have chosen to ignore posts from UD6. Show UD6's posts

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    Why would Brady want to leave. There is no team that is a QB away from being anywhere close to the Super Bowl. As much as I whine and moan about the issues this team has (defensive backfield and an offensive designed for the regular season), they were in the Super Bowl last year and the Conference Championship this year. 

    To me, the two biggest issues on this team are named McDaniels and Patricia.

     




    How about Pete Caroll's Seahawks? Close to home for Tom and a team with a top D.

     



    When the 1st ranked offense only puts up 13 points, 21 pts below their average, can you really say the defense was the problem?

     
  18. You have chosen to ignore posts from PATSthebest. Show PATSthebest's posts

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    Still not sure how anyone can blame the offense. We 've had years of draft picks to put together a top five D. The D needs to win some games.

    If the Ravens can keep the #1 offenss to 13 points why can't we have a "D" that can do the same?

     
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    Babe, I disagree with trading Brady but see your point, very tough game to watch.  We need an infusion of speed and toughness. Both were missing last night. The first thing BB should do this morning is call romeo crennell and bring him here, then he should sit his players down and tell them the regular season means nothing and to earn your money you need to play well in the playoffs. Last week Houston went soft, this week the pats did. I think pollard is a cheap shot artist and hate ray lewis but there is no denying the heart and desire they play with

     




    It is highly unlikely BB would bring in Romeo or any other high level coordinators. He has become entrenched in his mickey mouse on the job training nobody program.

     
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    Maybe it's time for Tom to consider another team that actually has a good core of players where he might win another SB. Maybe if he Kraft and BB can come to an agreement a deal could happen and we could stockpile some picks to try and rebuild this mediocre collection of stiffs we call a football team.

     

    How about Miami? They would be brutal with a Brady at QB. Or the jets? How would you like to play next year with Brady QBing one of them and we get some picks and go with Mallet?

     



    Really?  I would hate to be your child who disappoints you in something afterwhich you'd ship me off to the orphanage for another child to make you happier.  I can imagine what you'd be like as a team mate because it appears you'd blame all the other players for a loss.

     




    Oh no. I'm saying if Tom wants to leave. If he wants to stay on this ho-hum team with its brain-dead coordinators and try to win another, or just play out the string then let it be so.

     
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    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:

    The worst thing about the loss is all the whining.  Grow up.




    The only person whining is you.

     
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  23. You have chosen to ignore posts from LHNYJ. Show LHNYJ's posts

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    Hey babe- Glad to see you made it through the night. We were concerned for your health.

     Now lets talk about Tom Brady shall we?Pooped the bed yesterday is the concensus-Do you agree or disagree.

    I know what I saw I was wondering if you saw the same thing?Flacco looked an All Pro Brady looked like All Washed Up.

     
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    Babe, Glenr:  I get you both (as are all Pats fans) are disappointed from the loss.  I think, especially given his standards, that TB didn't play well.  Thing is, who on the Pats played better.  We lost, it hurts, and tossing out blame is folly - the TEAM lost.  D gave up 21 points in the 2nd half - the O didn't score in the 2nd half and literally wasted good field position in the 1st half.  TB will probably be the first person to say he stunk - but who was our best player on the field yesterday - yup, TB.  Our team isn't perfect and it isn't unbeatable - which team, even of the two remaining, are?




    That's pretty much it. There is absolutely no "oh wow" about Brady's game yesterday. But as happens far too often he was the only one doing much of anything.

     
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    In response to GoUconn13's comment:

    This is a dumb post.  Patriots are right now in an easy conference.  It is easier to stay as a Patriot player than playing for a team that play in the NFC.

    Come on, Brady still play good.  He still throw the ball well, but it is hard to keep throwing short passes against a very good tough defense team.  Brady threw the ball well in the deep terrority for the whole game, but too bad these receivers were too short to make a tough catch.  Hate when announcers keep saying, "Oh Brady overthrew the ball"  But really if he throw these passes a little bit shorter, it is more likely going to be intercepted.   Losing Gronowski is big.

    For the off season moves, I strongly think that Patriots need to get a big tall receiver where he can help Brady to make these tough deep passes as well they need one pass rusher.




    If you think it's dumb to say Brady ought to get away from the mediocre team BB has built around him, then I think that's dumb.

     
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