Brady's playoff performance.

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    Brady's playoff performance.

    In the recently concluded playoffs Brady produced the following numbers in 3 games.

    Passer Rating - 101.3

    Yards - 878

    Tds - 8

    Int - 4

    Some here have called for him to be traded if he performs like this again.

    His passer rating for the three games were, 137.6, 57.5 and 91.1 respectively. Dragging these numbers down severely was that 57.5 performance against the Ravens. They did have the best pass defense in the NFL though with a 68.8 DPR. For both the Giants and Broncos he exceeded the DPR they allowed on the season.

    This passer rating does exceed his career playoff rating by some 13 points. All in all, most fans would be thrilled to have their QB play at this level in the playoffs.


    Update: Subtracting the stats from the last desperate drive Brady had a
    101 passer rating.
     
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    " Some here have called for him to be traded if he performs like this again ". Those people have never played competitive sports in their lives and know very little about sports. Those people have zero football IQ and are obsessed with 2-3 arguments. Those people think Brandon Meriweather was the 2nd best FS in the NFL in 2010. Seriously though , some here haven't a clue. It's amazing how they can spend so much time in a football forum and be so clueless. Meriweather is a very good S ( currently looking for work lol ) ,Mike Wallace is a one trick pony lol , BJGE should have been our workhorse and can be a top tier Rb , its the offenses' fault we lost in SB ( yet two stops by the defense and we have two more rings ). Their about as smart as jet fans that defend the sancheeze.
     
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    It's the nature of the game that the bulk of either the credit or blame (deservedly or no) falls on the QB. Like you or I would hear it if our subordinates messed up or failed to perform a task. That's how it is in the media, and even moreso with fans. But the truth is there needs to be 11 guys executing plays for 60 minutes. And they simply didn't do that enough. There were probably 10 to 15 guys who had they made a play could have altered the outcome. But the general public will blame Brady and glorify Manning. Most people would be thrilled for a QB rating of 90+ in the SB. But at least the most important people know the truth...the team. And those of us who are level headed enough to look at the big picture rather than quote the headlines!
     
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    I said Brady is the best many times. I would be curious to see his QB ratings for playoff games for his entire career.

    However in football the only stats that matter are your last ones. The team’s troubles against really physical defenses like the Jets, Steelers, Ravens, Giants and the like have been due to 2 issues. One, Brady not having enough time to stand in the pocket. Two, the inability of the Patriots to adjust the game plan, when the game plan they went in with wasn’t working. Number two is a puzzler as the 2001-2004 teams were known for brilliant half time adjustments. The running game needs some love going forward.

    Since Brady is going to be the QB for another 3 or 4 years (and thankfully so) and we are usually going to butt heads in the playoffs with the Jets, Steelers, Ravens, Giants and the like, we must put a premier O line in front of Brady. Not bad mouthing our current line but an upgrade is needed. I know it’s not sexy picks but O line help is needed and a big young center would be a great start. A premier wide-out is a must as well.

     
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    In Response to Brady's playoff performance.:
    [QUOTE]In the recently concluded playoffs Brady produced the following numbers in 3 games. Passer Rating - 101.3 Yards - 878 Tds - 8 Int - 4 Some here have called for him to be traded if he performs like this again. His passer rating for the three games were, 137.6, 57.5 and 91.1 respectively. Dragging these numbers down severely was that 57.5 performance against the Ravens. They did have the best pass defense in the NFL though with a 68.8 DPR. For both the Giants and Broncos he exceeded the DPR they allowed on the season. This passer rating does exceed his career playoff rating by some 13 points. All in all, most fans would be thrilled to have their QB play at this level in the playoffs.
    Posted by BabeParilli[/QUOTE]

    in tight games between two good teams...it really comes down to opportunites made/missed  (think manningham/welker)  mistakes   and luck  ... 

    brady played ok and the pats played well overall   giants made mistakes and got lucky(3 fumballs all recovered)... pats made some and didnt..

    it was a very good year but obviously they did not reach their ultimate goal...
    i think the team will definately be better and brady has several good years left.

    next year will be the 4th year in the plan(5year plan)... if you look at 09 as the beginning of the rebuilding... generally the 5th year is the year they expect to compete for the SB




     
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    In Response to Brady's playoff performance.:
    [QUOTE]In the recently concluded playoffs Brady produced the following numbers in 3 games. Passer Rating - 101.3 Yards - 878 Tds - 8 Int - 4 Some here have called for him to be traded if he performs like this again. His passer rating for the three games were, 137.6, 57.5 and 91.1 respectively. Dragging these numbers down severely was that 57.5 performance against the Ravens. They did have the best pass defense in the NFL though with a 68.8 DPR. For both the Giants and Broncos he exceeded the DPR they allowed on the season. This passer rating does exceed his career playoff rating by some 13 points. All in all, most fans would be thrilled to have their QB play at this level in the playoffs.
    Posted by BabeParilli[/QUOTE]

    All in all, most fans would rather their team win the game.
     
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    The gameplan for the Ravens was incredibly flawed especially when the pass was something the Ravens were excelling at covering. 

    When a team starts to play the pass like that you have to divert to the run and that somewhat falls on Tommy and more on BoB and Bill. 

    The offense shouldn't just be all on Bradys back. It should be the offensive line blocking and getting the run game going. 

    Brady is fine. Not the issue. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Brady's playoff performance. : It goes deeper than that.  Brady wants to throw. This is a problem when we have a QB hellbent on wanting to throw 40+ times per game to get off. If we had the 1992 or 1993 Cowboys O Line and run game, I am convinced Brady would still want to look for Novacek, Irvin and Harper for 40+ times per game. This is all up to Brady saying "we need to run more". Until those words come out of his mouth, it does not matter.
    Posted by RustyGriswold[/QUOTE]

    Until Brady says we need to pass more also your whole rant means nothing.

    Also there where a number of times this season where Brady audibled to a run play, even in the superbowl he did this.  If you don't beleave me watch the game again. Why would he do that if he wants to pass every play.  Oh I know to feed his ego.   Both sides of the argument have points but your the only one who is hell bent on taking it personally and having to mudsling more than anyone on this board.
     
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    Re: Brady's playoff performance.

    Babe are you trying to give Rusty another nervous break down? I mean this is a five star athlete we're tasking about here! Why would you want to rile up a guy that clearly is a superior being? This guy understands not only the heart and soul of sports, but also how to manage a fortune 500 company. Hell if he had governed the banking industry all our homes would be worth more than they are now and we wouldn't have to watch people move into the house next door for 70k less than you paid for yours. 

    This guy can also cook, manage nfl salary caps, type really fast, multi task and spell check everyone on here while selling pharmaceuticals (he produces big time, just ask his boss). He also went to college, did I already mention that? 

    Listen this guy knows we win despite Brady - he's the first to see this (which is an accomplishment all in of it self). He's the first guy to realize we win because of our long list of second round picks and Benny. He also knows that we win because of our "Money Ball" approach to defensive players...sign em off the street - leave them bending, but not breaking out there for 45 minutes and let the other team screw it all up.


    Why did you have to do this to Rusty? Whhhhy?

     
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    I think anyone who has watched every Patriots game since Brady took over can see and interpret his tendencies and body language.  There is a big difference between his early years and now the later years.  He is definitely smarter and can read opposing defenses very well.  However, he does put on way too much on his shoulders and forces bad throws in much more frequency.  I also agree that he ignores the open man much more often and tries to make the "perfect throw" to covered men too much.  This could be because he doesn't trust the defense anymore, but I think the defense has held their own these couple years (late in the season expecially, BB's defenses always excel late year). 

    Whatever the reason, I do hope McDaniels does force the run game more and reigns in Brady's miscues. 
     
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    Re: Brady's playoff performance.

    brady shined against denver, but he really sucked against baltimore.....i really thought he was going to redeem himself when he was like 20-23 at one point in the super bowl.....then he went 7-17 with an int to finish the game....seemed like in the super bowl he played like he did against denver in the first 35 minutes, and then he played like he did against baltimore for the last 25 minutes.....however, he did put the ball where wes could make the arguable game winning catch and he dropped it. cant blame him for that or a couple of the drops on the final drive.
     
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    Re: Brady's playoff performance.

    In Response to Re: Brady's playoff performance.:
    [QUOTE]Babe are you trying to give Rusty another nervous break down? I mean this is a five star athlete we're tasking about here! Why would you want to rile up a guy that clearly is a superior being? This guy understands not only the heart and soul of sports, but also how to manage a fortune 500 company. Hell if he had governed the banking industry all our homes would be worth more than they are now and we wouldn't have to watch people move into the house next door for 70k less than you paid for yours.  This guy can also cook, manage nfl salary caps, type really fast, multi task and spell check everyone on here while selling pharmaceuticals (he produces big time, just ask his boss). He also went to college, did I already mention that?  Listen this guy knows we win despite Brady - he's the first to see this (which is an accomplishment all in of it self). He's the first guy to realize we win because of our long list of second round picks and Benny. He also knows that we win because of our "Money Ball" approach to defensive players...sign em off the street - leave them bending, but not breaking out there for 45 minutes and let the other team screw it all up. Why did you have to do this to Rusty? Whhhhy?
    Posted by mthurl[/QUOTE]

    Yes, but can he get PatsFanSince 1966 a job???
     
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    Re: Brady's playoff performance.

    What do his stats look like since their last super bowl win? 
     
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    Ok here it is. Great QB but other than the Denver game his post seasons have not been very good the past 5 or 6 years. 

                       td/int              rating        yp                     fumbles

    2006          5/4                 76.5              6.1                         2

    SD             2/3                 57.6               5.6                         1

    Ind            1/1                 79.5               6.8                         1

    2007          6/3                 96                6.8                         1

    SD             2/3                 66.4               6.3                         0

    NYG           1/0                 82.5               5.5                         1

    2009          2/3                 49.1              5                            1

    2010          2/1                 89                 6.6                         1

    2011          6/3                 105.8            8.6                          0

    BAL            0/2                 57.5               6.6                          0

     

    These are not intimidating or top-level numbers when you consider that an average quarterback over a season has a rating of 82-85.  Even in 2007, when he had an average rating of 96, in the postseason he had some very average performances, especially versus San Diego.

     
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    Re: Brady's playoff performance.

    The only "troll" around here is you. You've been ranting and raving about 2-3 things for five years now. Your a loser that likes to talk behind a keyboard. Go get a job loser. Anyone with a REAL job couldn't spend ten years posting hundreds a times a day. You are by far the saddest person on here. As for Meriweather , you did in fact call him the 2nd best FS in the game. I'll bump the thread again to make you look foolish. What a child you are. I challenge everyone reading this to go over and make up their own mind.
     
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    At his age wouldn't he be more effective if he had a running game to go with the pass. he isn't very mobile an has taken some hard hits. he's a tough guy but its asking a lot for a 35 or 36 year old qb to drop back and throw 40 times per game. 

    Brady is the best qb in Patriots history by far but has been beat up by the end of the season the past several years.
     
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    [QUOTE]At his age wouldn't he be more effective if he had a running game to go with the pass. he isn't very mobile an has taken some hard hits. he's a tough guy but its asking a lot for a 35 or 36 year old qb to drop back and throw 40 times per game.  Brady is the best qb in Patriots history by far but has been beat up by the end of the season the past several years.
    Posted by sporter81[/QUOTE]

    This is kind of funny in a sense, because there are people on here (rusty) that think Brady wants to toss the ball around all day long and expose himself to injury at the age of 35. Brady is a guy that has said he wants to play till he's in his 40's, does anyone think a guy that throws this much will last another 5-7 years? This guy wants to win so bad, that it's ridiculous to think he wouldn't want to hand it off to a good runner that will also make his job easier and less painful.

    Never mind the fact that Brady plays for a coach that likes to run the football, eat up the clock and win risk free type of games. We throw a lot because our talent is not conducive to running - if we had a lead back that could make yards on his own - we'd be running the damn ball more often! You can't just hand it off to a guy that has no ability to cut, make people miss or get to the perimeter...you just can't do that all game.
     
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    Re: Brady's playoff performance.

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Brady's playoff performance. : This is kind of funny in a sense, because there are people on here (rusty) that think Brady wants to toss the ball around all day long and expose himself to injury at the age of 35. Brady is a guy that has said he wants to play till he's in his 40's, does anyone think a guy that throws this much will last another 5-7 years? This guy wants to win so bad, that it's ridiculous to think he wouldn't want to hand it off to a good runner that will also make his job easier and less painful. Never mind the fact that Brady plays for a coach that likes to run the football, eat up the clock and win risk free type of games. We throw a lot because our talent is not conducive to running - if we had a lead back that could make yards on his own - we'd be running the damn ball more often! You can't just hand it off to a guy that has no ability to cut, make people miss or get to the perimeter...you just can't do that all game.
    Posted by mthurl[/QUOTE]

    Yes, he does want to win more than anyone and can still win a couple more. His playoff performance has been down over the past 10 games and he's also been beat up during most of those games as well. At 36 he cant take the beating that he did at 26 and expect to play at a high level. The offensive line has done a good job in protection but its difficult to expect to protect an immobile qb 40 or more times per game. He's going to take some hard hits. 

     
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    Re: Brady's playoff performance.

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    [QUOTE]Ok here it is. Great QB but other than the Denver game his post seasons have not been very good the past 5 or 6 years.                     td/int              rating        yp                     fumbles 2006           5/4                 76.5              6.1                         2 SD             2/3                 57.6               5.6                         1 Ind            1/1                 79.5               6.8                         1 2007           6/3                 96                6.8                         1 SD             2/3                 66.4               6.3                         0 NYG           1/0                 82.5               5.5                         1 2009           2/3                 49.1              5                            1 2010           2/1                 89                 6.6                         1 2011           6/3                 105.8            8.6                          0 BAL            0/2                 57.5               6.6                          0   These are not intimidating or top-level numbers when you consider that an average quarterback over a season has a rating of 82-85.  Even in 2007, when he had an average rating of 96, in the postseason he had some very average performances, especially versus San Diego.
    Posted by sporter81[/QUOTE]

    Want to know something funny?
    The quarterback Passer rating is determined by 5 categories.

    Quarterback Pass Attempts
    Quarterback Pass Completions
    Total Passing Yards
    Completed Touchdown Passes
    Total Interceptions

    Now, I'm not going to research every game but in the Ravens game with the 57% PR, Brady lost 30.7 points off his rating because his 2 TD's in that game were RUNNING TD's (by design).  He got zero points in the "Completed touchdown category".  If those 2 TD's were passes instead of runs, his PR would have been much higher.
    Funny how the rating depends on how well every one else does too.
    The 7-8 dropped passes in the SB also killed his rating.  Go figure.
     
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    In Response to Re: Brady's playoff performance.:
    [QUOTE]Babe are you trying to give Rusty another nervous break down? I mean this is a five star athlete we're tasking about here! Why would you want to rile up a guy that clearly is a superior being? This guy understands not only the heart and soul of sports, but also how to manage a fortune 500 company. Hell if he had governed the banking industry all our homes would be worth more than they are now and we wouldn't have to watch people move into the house next door for 70k less than you paid for yours.  This guy can also cook, manage nfl salary caps, type really fast, multi task and spell check everyone on here while selling pharmaceuticals (he produces big time, just ask his boss). He also went to college, did I already mention that?  Listen this guy knows we win despite Brady - he's the first to see this (which is an accomplishment all in of it self). He's the first guy to realize we win because of our long list of second round picks and Benny. He also knows that we win because of our "Money Ball" approach to defensive players...sign em off the street - leave them bending, but not breaking out there for 45 minutes and let the other team screw it all up. Why did you have to do this to Rusty? Whhhhy?
    Posted by mthurl[/QUOTE]

    And he reads Tom Friedman, mthurl . . . Tom Friedman, mind you!  What an intellectual that Rusty . . .




     

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